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    Asus W7S User Review

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  1. Chicken Royale

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    by James Wong

    ASUS has slowly and steadily gained a reputation for churning out quality yet still affordable laptops. Whilst still establishing its brand in the US market, this Taiwanese company has a bigger presence in the Asian and European regions. For this review I will be looking at the W7S model which is the Santa Rosa update for the 13.3&quot; W7 series. The W7S is advertised in two distinct versions; the white version features an Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 processor whilst the black version has the T7500 along with a bigger hard drive and more RAM.

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    Asus W7S notebook (view large image)

    The black version I am reviewing is not the standard version because in the place I bought mine there are many variants of the W7S series, to be specific the model number of this notebook is W7S-3P057. The only difference is that 'Wireless N' is not supported, it comes with a 6-cell battery and it comes preloaded with Vista Home Premium instead of Vista Business.

    Specifications as reviewed

    • Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 (2.2GHz, 800FSB, 4MB Cache)
    • Memory: 1.5GB (512MB + 1GB)
    • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8400M G 128MB VRAM
    • Display: 13.3&quot; 1280x800 WXGA Color Shine LCD
    • Hard Drive: 160GB 5400RPM SATA (Seagate Momentus 5400.3)
    • Optical Drive: Super Multi DVD Burner with Lightscribe
    • Wireless: Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG
    • Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium
    • Ports: 3x USB 2.0, 1x FireWire, Headphone/SPDIF out, Microphone in, VGA out, Modem, Ethernet
    • Slots: 1x ExpressCard, 8 in 1 card reader
    • Dimensions: 315 x 226.5 x 36.9mm
    • Weight: 1.95Kg

    Reasons for Buying

    The notebook arrived at the time when I would be studying at university and the fact that I travel overseas quite frequently meant that a relatively portable 13.3&quot; laptop would succumb my needs. I like to do the occasional gaming so there was a pressing need for a dedicated graphics card; preferably one which supports DirectX 10 as this would help prepare me for future games. Performance was also important as I do quite a lot of encoding so the benefits of the Santa Rosa platform would help. This narrowed my choices to the Sony SZ, Dell XPS M1330 and the Toshiba Satellite U305. The Sony was too expensive, the Dell was not released yet (at the time of purchase) and the Toshiba didn't have global warranty, which lead me to this notebook.

    Where and How Purchased

    I didn't purchase via the Internet because I needed to make sure that the software and warranty would cover me as I study overseas and the fact that prices were more negotiable. I purchased this notebook from Golden Computer Centre in Hong Kong at the price of $12300 HKD which is the equivalent to $1,571.16 USD ($7.829HKD/USD) I was able to haggle the price down a few hundred dollars and was allowed to switch to the English version of Vista free of charge. The laptop was purchased and was taken home on the same day.

    My notebook package includes:

    • Targus carry case
    • Bluetooth mouse with USB charger and batteries
    • Power adapter with cable tie
    • 6-cell battery
    • Recovery and driver CD
    • S-Video to composite cable
    • Telephone cable
    • Dust cloth
    • Manuals and paperwork

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    The complete package (view large image)

    Build &amp; Design

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    At first glance the notebook may look matte black but upon closer inspection you can see little silver flakes and this covers the whole of the laptop including the keyboard and touchpad. When you open the notebook you'll immediately notice the latchless system, the hinges are firm yet induces little wobbling when you poke the screen. The minor problem that I have with the latchless system is that the more acute the angle of the lid is, the higher the tension so you could end up closing the lid with an unintentional slam. The one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb on this laptop is the 1.3M pixel webcam, it may not be discrete but it does give the design of the laptop some flavor.

    The carbon fiber and plastic mixture used to make the body offers a solid design and accounts for the little flex around the laptop. The lid is made of magnesium alloy and plastic which blends well with the rest of the body; however when you twist the screen there is still some bending but not enough to worry about it. When pressing the screen there is no noticeable rippling unless you absolutely hammer it which by then it wouldn't be a laptop anymore.

    In particularly hot weather the laptop can be prone to hot sweaty fingerprints (more like hand prints) which does take some buffing to get rid of, and this isn't helped by the fact that the laptop can get quite warm to the touch.

    Screen

    The screen can be blindingly bright in a dark room and is enough to light up the keyboard as well, however I find myself rarely using the screen at 100% brightness unless I am outdoors in the sunshine. Fortunately this laptop did not suffer from the 'dead pixel syndrome' and as my first ownership of a glossy screen, I like it. This screen reminds me of the X-Brite displays used in the Sony VAIOs and produces rich color tones but this notebook does not feature LED backlighting.

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    Light leakage from the screen seems to be biased towards the bottom and may become a problem when watching scary movies or photo editing. However, it makes up for it with relatively wide viewing angles especially on a horizontal plain so the person next to you can see what you're up to.

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    1.3M pixel webcam (view large image)

    The webcam is fixed onto the chassis and cannot be rotated like the ASUS W5F notebooks. The image quality is good enough for video messaging but lacks details when taking large photos as demonstrated below:

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    Sample picture taken outdoors from webcam (view large image)

    Speakers

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    The speakers are located on the bottom of the screen and can be best described as generic. Don't be expecting 'thumping bass' or 'block rocking beats' as these speakers are more suited for vocals or classical music where there is less need for low bass or high trebles. Surprisingly there is little to no crackling when the volume is cranked on the highest setting which is loud enough to be on shouting terms, at least there is an S/PDIF out audio socket to stream out the sounds digitally.

    One thing I love about this laptop is the jog dial as you tilt the switch up or down to change the volume, and if you push the button inwards it mutes the sound.

    Processor and Performance

    The T7500 is no slouch when it comes to raw performance (well at the time of writing) and topped off with the Santa Rosa platform the increased memory bandwidth linking the CPU and RAM further increases the performance which is generally reflected in gaming, encoding and benchmarks.

    The 1.5GB RAM is more than enough to run Windows Vista but you may want to upgrade the RAM later in the future as games and other software become more bloated in terms of memory. However the heavily criticized 512MB of onboard RAM leaves only one upgradeable slot which reduces the ability for future upgrades. But once you have upgraded a 2GB stick of RAM to make the total 2.5GB; even then this is more than enough unless you do lots of photo/video editing, CAD work or other memory demanding tasks.

    The GeForce 8400M G should be enough to cater for the 'light gamer' who does not require high graphics settings for each game, and it is also reassuring to know that your laptop can support DirectX 10 for future titles (although it might be a bit choppy) as well as the added benefit of hardware H.264 decoding.

    The included hard drive is the 160GB Seagate Momentus 5400.3 which is one of the best 5400rpm hard drives in terms of performance, heat and noise. This means that boot up times are relatively fast and average transfer rates should not be far behind 7200rpm hard drives.

    Benchmarks:

    3DMark05

    Link to Detailed results for 3DMark05

    3DMark06 comparison results:

    Notebook 3DMark06 Score
    Asus W7S (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500, NVIDIA GeForce 8400M G 128MB RAM) 1,082 3DMarks
    Dell Inspiron 1420 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS 128MB) 1,329 3DMarks
    Sony VAIO FZ (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 532 3DMarks
    Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS 128MB) 1,408 3DMarks
    Samsung Q70 (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7300 and nVidia 8400M G GPU) 1,069 3DMarks
    Asus F3sv-A1 (Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0GHz, Nvidia 8600M GS 256MB) 2,344 3DMarks
    Alienware Area 51 m5550 (2.33GHz Core 2 Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7600 256MB 2,183 3DMarks
    Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Xi 1526 (1.66 Core Duo, nVidia 7600Go 256 MB) 2,144 3DMarks
    Samsung X60plus (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7200, ATI X1700 256MB) 1,831 3DMarks
    Asus A6J (1.83GHz Core Duo, ATI X1600 128MB) 1,819 3DMarks


    Link to Detailed results for 3DMark06

    PCMark05 comparison results:

    Notebook PCMark05 Score
    Asus W7S (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500, NVIDIA GeForce 8400M G 128MB RAM) 4,759 PCMarks
    Dell Inspiron 1420 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS) 4,925 PCMarks
    Sony VAIO FZ (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 3,377 PCMarks
    Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS) 4,591 PCMarks
    Lenovo ThinkPad X61 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 4,153 PCMarks
    Lenovo 3000 V200 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 3,987 PCMarks
    Lenovo T60 Widescreen (2.0GHz Intel T7200, ATI X1400 128MB) 4,189 PCMarks
    HP dv6000t (2.16GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400) 4,234 PCMarks
    Alienware M7700 (AMD Athlon FX-60, Nvidia Go 7800GTX) 5,597 PCMarks
    Asus V6J (1.86GHz Core Duo T2400, Nvidia Go 7400) 3,646 PCMarks


    Link to PCMark05 Detailed Results

    Super Pi comparison results:

    Notebook Time
    Asus W7S (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500) 0m 56s
    Dell Inspiron 1420 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500) 0m 54s
    Sony VAIO FZ (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300) 0m 59s
    Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300) 0m 58s
    Lenovo ThinkPad X61 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300) 1m 01s
    Lenovo 3000 V200 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300) 0m 59s
    HP dv2500t (1.80GHz Intel 7100) 1m 09s
    Lenovo ThinkPad T61 (2.00GHz Core 2 Duo Intel T7300) 0m 59s
    Toshiba Satellite P205-S6287 (1.73 GHz Core 2 Duo Intel T5300) 1m 24s
    Toshiba Satellite A205 (1.66GHz Core 2 Duo) 1m 34s
    HP dv6000t (2.16 GHz Intel T2400) 0m 59s
    Dell Inspiron e1705 (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo) 1m 02s

    HD Tune

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    Overall the 3DMark benchmarks show that the GeForce 8400M G performs about the same as the GeForce Go 7400, however in PCMark the results are quite good compared with similar specs probably due to the 2.2GHz CPU, the Santa Rosa platform and the Seagate Momentus 5400.3 drive.

    Heat and Noise

    One thing that is slightly annoying about this laptop is the amount of heat it produces. What is even worse is the exhaust vent is located on the right hand side where the mouse would be, off course you can just move the mouse away from the vent but it still warms up the area. Even just typing this review on the laptop the keyboard is warm to the touch and the palm rest is getting to the point where it makes my hands sweaty. Maybe I am just being over critical but I guess cramming a 2.2GHz processor and dedicated graphics into a 13.3&quot; laptop isn't a cool job. Either way this laptop is warm.

    The software I used to record the temperatures of these components are 'Notebook Hardware Control', 'RivaTuner' and 'HD Tune' to measure the CPU, GPU and HDD respectively. Here is a table showing the different temperatures achieved:

    Idle/ degrees C Load/ degrees C
    CPU 58 76
    GPU 74 90
    HDD 46 56

    Just by looking at these results they are generally hotter than I am used to seeing and the one that strikes me the most is the GPU with a load temperature of 90C. Although it is still functional at this temperature, I would be more comfortable using a notebook cooler just to cool things down a bit.

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    Underneath showing the CPU, HDD and RAM (view large image)

    By looking at the internals of the laptop there is only one cooling fan and one heat sink to cool both the CPU and GPU. Given the small chassis of a 13.3&quot; laptop the heat would be heavily concentrated and so the little HSF may be a little overworked; this might explain the 'hotness' of this laptop.

    What is remarkable about this notebook is the lack of noise it produces. When you're surfing the internet or watching a movie you won't be able to hear the fan at all unless you are in a totally isolated room but even then, all you can hear is the 'whoosh' noise as the air brushes over the heat sink. However when you start doing CPU intensive tasks like benchmarking, the fan starts to become audible which is similar to the sound of the DVD drive spinning. This might suggest that Asus wanted to sacrifice some of the noise for heat in order to make it a quietly pleasant experience to use this laptop.

    Keyboard and Touchpad

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    After groping the keyboard in various places, I have eventually found a little flex around the area of the 'F11' key. Though not alarmingly flex it shows that this keyboard is not perfect in that sense. However the keys themselves are not mushy but are firm and bouncy, given the full sized keys this keyboard is nice to type on. One thing that annoys me is that the 'Backspace' and 'Enter' keys are shortened to a point where I keep pressing the keys next to it instead, at least the 'Ctrl' key is on the bottom left corner of the keyboard.

    The touchpad is offset to the left side of the laptop and has the same smooth texture as the body. After using the touchpad with sweaty and cold fingers it still picks up the movements. Sometimes I find myself touching the edge of the touchpad which activates the scroll feature but other than that, the buttons give a firm and loud 'click' sound when depressed.

    Input and Output Ports

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    Back side: DC input, S-Video out, USB 2.0 port, Kensington lock port (view large image)

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    Right side: ExpressCard slot, volume dial, microphone-in, line-out, Firewire, USB2.0 port, VGA Out (view large image)

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    Left side: RJ-45 LAN port, RJ-11 modem port, USB2.0 port, 8-in-1 card reader (view large image)

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    Horizontal profile (view large image)

    The location of the three USB ports is new to me. One is located on the left side, one is located on the right and the other is on the back. This allows some flexibility in connecting the laptop to certain devices but the problem with the dispersed USB ports is that wire management can become messy; especially when you have the adaptor plugged in.

    One word of warning, the VGA out socket does not have screw holes for the cable to securely connect to the laptop.

    Wireless

    As stated this variant of the W7S does not include the 'Wireless N' but instead includes the Intel PRO Wireless 3945ABG adaptor. The transfer speeds are normal and I find that I can pick up the signals of my neighbor's wireless router. The Bluetooth adaptor built in works fine with the Bluetooth mouse included with this laptop.

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    There is also a switch on the top left corner which allows the WiFi and Bluetooth to be switched on or off.

    Battery

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    Size comparison between the Bluetooth mouse, power adapter and battery (view large image)

    The battery included is a 6-cell lithium ion battery rated at 4800mAh and like the previous models of the W7, the battery protrudes from the body just a bit. The sales person at the shop told me that I should be expecting 3-4 hours battery life of general use; at first I had my doubts and so I decided to prove it. Whilst using the 'Battery Saving' profile from the bundled Power4Gear software, the battery lasted 2 hours 32 minutes (40% brightness, wireless on, idle laptop). I wasn't too happy with this time and I wasn't too surprised either given that the Sony FZ series lasts about the same time, though this does reduce the mobility aspect of this laptop. My second test consisted of testing the notebook under heavy gaming where I played BF2, during in which I had used 'Performance Mode' and managed to squeeze 57 minutes (100% brightness, wireless on) before the battery warning indicator came up. On the whole it should be safe to say that the battery life on this notebook is not something to brag about by current standards.

    There is also a button on the top left corner that allows you to switch the profiles in concordance with the Power4Gear software which I have found to be quite useful especially when you have the sudden urge to play a game, one flick of the switch and the laptop is already in 'High Performance' mode.

    Operating System and Software

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    On this particular model of the W7S it comes with Windows Vista Home Premium and when I switched the laptop on for the first time I was greeted with the usual load of bloatware. After uninstalling the unnecessary programs I still had 61 processes in the Task Manager was not satisfied until I did a clean install of Vista. As usual the driver and recovery CDs are included with the laptop.

    Customer Support

    I have encountered no major problems yet so there is no need for me to use their customer support. Even if I do find a problem I would probably use the Asus online support forum first as it is surprisingly resourceful with its developed online community. There is one thing that is hard to match and that is the 2 year global warranty which comes with the laptop. This is reassuring and makes me a happier customer; unless I decide to modify the internals of the laptop.

    Conclusion

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    People say that first impressions always last, and I believe that this is true with this laptop. The first few times I used it I fell in love with the screen, and then you start to notice the little details that make this notebook beautiful such as the quality build. Overall this laptop packs performance in a portable laptop and has graciously met my needs. If I were to sum up this laptop in three words it would be: solid yet sleek.

    Pros:

    • Toggle volume switch
    • Location of USB ports
    • Bluetooth mouse and laptop bag bundled
    • Good screen and viewing angles
    • Quiet fan
    • Solid build
    • Card reader
    • 2 year global warranty
    • Sleek styling
    • Latchless system

    Cons:

    • Exhaust vent on right hand side
    • Generic speakers
    • 'Enter' and 'Backspace' key a bit short
    • Short battery life
    • Bloatware
    • 512MB onboard RAM
    • Palm rest and keyboard gets uncomfortably warm
     
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  2. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Great review and that is a very nice notebook.
     
  3. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    Woow. It's thicker than i thought. Cool thuogh. Good job on the review.
     
  4. Metamorphical

    Metamorphical Good computer user

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    Great Review!

    I have to say the things that surprised me the most with this notebook were the size of the 90Watt powerbrick and the dummy cards for the express card and card reader slots. Other than that I love it.
     
  5. cbs2186

    cbs2186 Notebook Guru

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    Good review... but I have one question. Why does a Bluetooth mouse have a USB cord attached?


    Edit: Wait... probably to charge the batteries using USB power... nevermind.
     
  6. jetstar

    jetstar Notebook Deity

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    Very nice review!
     
  7. Andrew Baxter

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    Excellent pictures there, it's great when somebody knows how to use a camera properly to get good closeup shots, tough to do.

    That's a great laptop for getting power in a small package. I'm a big fan of the 13.3" form factor. Too bad the camera cannot rotate, it looks like it should be able to the way it sticks up.
     
  8. chong67

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    Vent on the right side? Not a great idea.
     
  9. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Thanks for a very informative review. It should be of interest to the people who are getting bored with the wait for the M1330 and wondering about other options in the 13.3" size range.

    You may be able to get the battery time nearer to 3 hours, but no more. I couldn't quite achieve 3 hours with the Samsung Q70 which has similar hardware specs.

    John
     
  10. jsis

    jsis Notebook Evangelist

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    There's a good chance that he's using a DSLR camera.

    great review!
     
  11. sshorkey

    sshorkey Notebook Consultant

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    Ya.. great review

    Now one more computer to consider! :rolleyes:
     
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    edubarr Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the review. I've been thinking about getting this laptop and it provided some very useful information. It's indeed a nice machine.
     
  13. Chicken Royale

    Chicken Royale Notebook Geek NBR Reviewer

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    I wish I had a DSLR camera (ummm Canon EOS) but for this review I just used my old Canon Ixus which only takes good pictures only if there is enough lighting. I'm glad it turned out nice though :)

    Thanks for the comments!
     
  14. Ackeron

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    QFE, I was about to post the same comment myself! Nice review :cool:
     
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    Long waiting for a review like this, Thanks!
     
  16. karl_k

    karl_k Newbie

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    Hi !

    Thanks for your review, I am just searching for a laptop in that category.
    Two questions though: Could you provide some pictures from the back of the laptop, so one can see how far the battery protrudes from the computer ?
    And second, does it suck air from underneath the keyboard, or from the bottom of the laptop ? Its a pain to use it on your lap if it sucks air from the underside, as you would close the fan intake with your leg.

    Thanks a lot,
    Cheers,
    Karl
     
  17. Chicken Royale

    Chicken Royale Notebook Geek NBR Reviewer

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    No problem, I might already have the photo but haven't uploaded it yet. I'll see what I can do.

    As for the fan, you're right in thinking that it sucks air from the bottom and out of the side vent and I agree that when you work with the notebook on your lap it can obstruct the airflow. Though when you look closer underneath, you can notice that there isn't just one main vent for air intake, there are smaller additional vents that are located nearer to the front of the laptop. I'll post a picture of it to show what I mean.
     
  18. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    Weren't you going to do a review as well, Niki?
     
  19. karl_k

    karl_k Newbie

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    Well the problem i foresee is that I will not be able to use this laptop on a soft surface. I often write a few emails late night in bed where the soft blanket would most probably obstruct the air intake....
     
  20. soldier0316

    soldier0316 Notebook Evangelist

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    Great review! kinda pricey though..
     
  21. JabbaJabba

    JabbaJabba ThinkPad Facilitator

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    Thanks for the informative review.

    I was particularly surprised and impressed by the HD tune results. Not bad for a 5400 RPM notebook drive.
     
  22. Lone_Prodigy

    Lone_Prodigy Notebook Consultant

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    Great review.

    For me, the dealbreaker was the soldered RAM and the heat issue.
     
  23. vengance_01

    vengance_01 Notebook Deity

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    but mabey with some new AS5/MX2 paste, and under volt the cpu's full load voltage via NHC, temps should drop to a more respectable level I bet. I am very interested in the notebook. the 1330 looks good, but the wait of 1 month + and the price is holding me back. :)
     
  24. Chicken Royale

    Chicken Royale Notebook Geek NBR Reviewer

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    Hope these pics are what you wanted :)

    As you can see the battery protrudes a tiny bit from the back and to be honest I hardly notice it. Now that i'm looking at it, it reminds me of how the webcam sticks out from the laptop as well. I wonder what the 9-cell battery would look like on this laptop.
     

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    chuck232 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    I see they still haven't improved battery life from the W7J.

    Still, nice looking laptop and great review! :)
     
  26. vengance_01

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    Well considering the hardware inside the unit, 3:30 with a 9 cell is not bad in my book. The Dell 1330 with the 9 cell has a bit more time, but not much. You can also lock the cpu in the low state for anything 100% CPU usage which should help with battery life. I really want to like this notebook, but I feel this and all other small notebooks just cost way to much $$$$
     
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    Considering the 2:30 on the 6 cell was with 40% brightness and a completely idle system, I wouldn't say it's at all decent, especially for something that should be quite portalble. With a 6 cell and discrete graphics, the M1330 does 3-3.5 hours with light usage.
     
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    I recall getting better battery life on the w7j with a 6-cell using winxp. Perhaps it has something to do with vista?
     
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    Hi Chicken Royale, thanks for your W7S review.

    I know this is a stupid question but how did you do a clean install of vista?

    With the recovery CDs included in the package?

    I like my W7S too, thanks...
     
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    Hi before I did the reinstall I made a copy of my Vista activation with this OEM utility thing. I used my Vista Home Premium CD and did a clean install without entering the CD Key, then I used OEM utility thing to paste the Vista activation back on and that's it.

    Although I did use the recovery CD and I think it might have been a easier method because you just put the CD in and everything becomes automated. It asks you which software you want to install with it too - thankfully you can stop all the bloatware being installed at this point. I'm not sure what the difference is between reinstalling with the recovery CD or the Vista CD, but one thing I can tell is that for some reason the recovery CD took 3x as long to install.
     
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    How awesome is the horizontal viewing angle??? This thing is a beauty. Few little niggles, but a beauty nonetheless
     
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    It seems fairly normal. I wouldn't call it especially good, but neither it is bad. I took some pics of it...I used the exact same settings for each one so you should be able to get an idea of the brightness of the screen.
     

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    it's pretty hot indeed
    but Zalman took care of that :)
     
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    Is there somewhere to compare different models of W7s?
    Asus website doesn't have enough information about models.
     
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    There are only three models that Asus puts out. The A1B and A1W are identical except for colour...they have the T7300 CPU, 1GB of memory, 120GB hard drive, and the 6-cell battery. The B1B has the T7500 CPU, 1.5GB of memory, 160GB hard drive, and both the 6-cell and the 9-cell battery.

    You can probably have your dealer customize the laptop by swapping parts when you order, but Asus only supplies those three configuations as default setups.
     
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    Nice review, just read through it now.

    Just looking through the pictures, the last one in the review on the top left corner there seem to be specks on the LCD. Is this an example of the "grainy screen" issue that has been seen on some of Asus' notebooks?

    I am still on the fence about the MBP vs V2s. Mainly worried about compatibility of OS X with my coursework in engineering. Sure I can run Windows, but then I'd rather have a PC laptop if I constantly need to use Vista/XP.

    I'm still in school, maybe I should satisfy my OS X curiosity when I've got a bit more money to spare. :p
     
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    You know, I've read the review twice and I only just noticed it now. Based on the W7S I have, I can report that it does not show any graininess of that sort. The effect as shown in the picture is probably an artifact of some kind of moire pattern. I don't see that on my screen at all.
     
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    The 'grains' you see in the pictures are probably my fault and it's probably because I can't use the camera properly or I downsized the photos using an inferior method resulting in that weird moire pattern.

    It's nothing to worry about because like tritium4ever, I can't see any grains on my screen.
     
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    Thanks guys.

    I just wanted to know what a "grainy screen" would potentially look like Had that been it, there would be absolutely no way I would be able to live with it. I wouldn't even consider getting a notebook that could potentially look that bad without any way to fix it under warranty.
     
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    The W7S is a very nice notebook, but sadly, it did not improve on any of the flaws of its predecessor. It still runs too hot, has a too short battery life, and RAM soldered into the motherboard. If they even had upped the soldered amount to 1GB, it would be fine too, but 512MB in this day and age is pretty pathetic, and the 2.5GB limit is just too low.

    That said, the white one is one of the best looking notebooks I have seen recently, the build quality and screen is excellent, and the performance is awesome for a 4lb notebook.
     
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    I'm looking into this as I might be returnin my Dell m1330...but..the battery performance and the heat turn me off...Can anybody suggest anything like this one but with less heat...perferably 3-4 hrs of battery performance?
     
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    If you are looking for a 13.3" then your other option would probably be the sony SZ6. If you'd like something bigger then there are more options on the 14.1" such as the the asus F8 (I dunno when it will ship though) or V2, the HP dv 2500 and the lenovo T61.
     
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    Pretty much every performance portable (12-13" with dedicated GPU) will get hot, but for other options:

    Asus F9S(Intel)/F9Dc(AMD)
    Asus S37S/Z37S (Portable One SXS37)
    Asus U3S
    Dell XPS M1330
    Sony SZ6
     
  44. jt_01

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    Does it get really hot when just doing 2d work, like photoshop for example or just when playing 3D games?
     
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    It gets pretty hot in general, even when just browsing the internet. However, I will qualify that statement by saying that it depends more on how you define hot. If you are used to 60+ C processor and 70C GPU temps, then its not all that hot.

    Its significantly hotter than say, a ThinkPad T61, or a dv2700t.
     
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    Well I have an asus A8 which runs pretty much cool all the time, and I use it for up to 8 hours a day. But that doesn't have really have a gpu.

    So I guess running a W7S for up to 8 hours solid, doing stuff like photoshop, would mean it wears out from the extreme heat pretty quickly?