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    MSI GX600 Review

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by dietcokefiend, Nov 16, 2007.

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    by Kevin O'Brien

    The MSI GX600 is a &quot;compact&quot; 15.4&quot; gaming notebook with a 512MB NVIDIA 8600M GT graphics card, and an overclockable Intel T7300 Core 2 Duo processor. This notebook offers a wide range of ports including HDMI, e-SATA, MCX for TV-Antenna, VGA, S-Video, four USB ports, one Firewire port, and LAN/Modem jacks to cover almost any device you have laying around. Probably the coolest feature which I have not seen since my 20Mhz 486 desktop is a Turbo button to overclock the machine on the fly to bump the processor speed from 2.0GHz to 2.4GHz without a restart.

    • Screen: 15.4-inch screen SWXGA (1680x1050, Matte)
    • Processor: 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 (2.4GHz Overclocked)
    • Hard Drive: 250GB Western Digital hard drive (SATA, 5400RPM)
    • Memory: 2GB RAM (PC5300, 2 x 1GB)
    • Optical Drive: DVD+-R Double layer / DVD+-RW Drive
    • Ports and Slots: HDMI, e-SATA, Four USB 2.0, one FireWire 400 port, ExpressCard 54, VGA, S-Video, one SD card reader, headphone, microphone-in, analog/SPDIF line-out modem, 1Gb Ethernet
    • Wireless: Intel 4965 Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)
    • Graphics: 512MB DDR2 NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
    • Webcam: 1.3 MP
    • Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium
    • Dimensions: 14.09&quot; x 10.16&quot; x 1.06-1.26&quot; inches (WxDxH)
    • Weight: 6.25 pounds
    • Battery: 6-Cell 4800mAh
    • Included Carrying Case/Backpack
    • MSRP: $1,599 - $1,699 depending on configuration

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    Build and Design

    As you might expect with most gaming notebooks, the MSI GX600 likes to be stick out in a crowd. With its glossy black finish, flame decals, and huge MSI logo front and center it really gets noticed compared to other notebooks. The only feature that seemed to be missing was big LEDs to light up the logo, which most lecturers will love not being in their classroom. Overall the design of the notebook is fairly tame besides the decals, which can't be said with some gaming notebooks.

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    Build quality with this notebook is average, but not as durable as I would have liked. Chassis flex is present, noticed when holding the notebook by the palmrest or pressing firmly on different parts of the notebook. The palmrest was probably the worst culprit, allowing so much flex that squeezing the palmrest could activate the touchpad buttons on both sides. This was a first for me, as I have never seen this on any other notebook reviewed to date. Some mild flex was found on the keyboard in various sections, but nothing too severe.

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    Screen

    The display found on the GX600 is a matte style, which is odd with most gaming notebooks today having the popular glossy type. Usually you see matte style displays on business notebooks, as it helps to cut down on glare reflected back at you while using the notebook. I usually don't find fault in either style, but some people may want to know this when choosing their notebook. Screen quality is average, with vivid colors in a narrow vertical viewing angle, and inverted/distorted colors with steeper angles. Horizontal viewing range was more than adequate, so sharing the screen for a movie would not be a problem.

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    Brightness levels of the display were more than enough for viewing in a bright office setting, but don't expect to game while outside on a sunny day. My comfortable brightness level was 60-70% at my apartment, and 90-100% at work. When gaming I always liked to max the backlight out to get any help I could in dark games like BioShock.

    Speakers

    Sound quality was average for most notebooks, but didn't compare with other gaming notebooks. Most, if not all bass was missing, leaving you with shallow midrange and high-end tones. This did not really affect gaming, listening to music, or watching movies since you still heard all of the content being played. Volume levels were high enough to allow coworkers to get into your game (even if they were busy doing work).

    Headphone jack quality was top notch, and my preferred source of audio when playing games (more like highly suggested). No hiss or static was present, just a nice clean signal.

    Keyboard and Touchpad

    The GX600 has a full-size keyboard ... but it does use some compact keys. The keyboard keys themselves have a nice texture and provide great feedback while typing. It includes a full number pad, but at the expense of making some frequently used keys almost impossible to use in normal typing. One key in particular, the &quot;.&quot; key is so small that typing website addresses becomes a labored task. I found myself having to slow down and verify the position of my finger each time I wanted to aim for that key. Placement of the left control key is also in an odd position one over from the left, with the function key taking its place.

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    The touchpad surface is very expansive, but can be awkward at times with the large scrollbar region. The scrolling area is not fully defined, so sometimes you can accidentally enter it making the pointer go nuts. The touchpad buttons have shallow feedback, and as mentioned above, can be clicked by pressing the palmrest.

    Performance

    As a gaming notebook, system performance should rule above all else. Offering a 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT and an overclockable Intel T7300 Core 2 Duo the MSI GX600 was able to play all the new games such as BioShock with ease. The turbo button which could overclock the processor on the fly didn't help much with gaming, but did seem to help slightly when installing software. Encoding video or music would probably see higher gains with an overclocked processor, over most gaming situations. This was noticed with our 3DMark06 benchmarks, where the turbo button gains were almost non-existent. PCMark05 and wPrime saw a much greater jump in performance, so we knew it did &quot;something.&quot; One feature we were surprised to not find in this notebook was a 7200rpm hard drive, as they can greatly help with almost all aspects of system performance.

    Below are benchmarks showing system performance in both stock, and overclocked situations.

    PCMark05 Comparison Results:

    Notebook PCMark05 Score
    MSI GX600 (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7300, Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT 512MB) 4,989 PCMarks
    MSI GX600 (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7300 overclocked to 2.4GHz, Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT 512MB) 5,633 PCMarks
    Dell XPS M1730 (Core 2 Extreme X7900 2.8GHz, Dual Nvidia GeForce 8700M-GT 512MB) 7,148 PCMarks
    Dell XPS M1730 (Core 2 Extreme X7900 overclocked to 3.2GHz, Dual Nvidia GeForce 8700M-GT 512MB) 7,868 PCMarks
    Sager NP9260 (2.66GHz Core 2 Duo E6700, 2x Nvidia GeForce Go 7950GTX video cards with 512MB DDR3) 6,871 PCMarks
    Alienware m5790 (1.83 GHz Core 2 Duo, ATI X1800 256MB) 4,411 PCMarks
    Fujtisu Siemens Amilo Xi1554 Review (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo, ATI X1900, Windows XP) 5,066 PCMarks
    Fujitsu LifeBook N6420 (2.00GHz Core 2 Duo, ATI X1600) 4,621 PCMarks
    Fujitsu LifeBook N6410 (1.66GHz Core Duo, ATI X1400) 3,487 PCMarks
    Sony Vaio SZ-110B in Speed Mode (Using Nvidia GeForce Go 7400) 3,637 PCMarks
    Asus Z84Jp (2.16GHz Core 2 Duo, Nvidia Go 7600) 4,739 PCMarks
    Asus V6J (1.86GHz Core Duo T2400) 3,646 PCMarks
    Alienware M7700 (AMD Athlon FX-60, Nvidia Go 7800GTX) 5,597 PCMarks


    3DMark06 Results and Comparison:

    Notebook 3D Mark 06 Results
    MSI GX600 (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7300, Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT 512MB) 3,241
    MSI GX600 (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7300 overclocked to 2.4GHz, Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT 512MB) 3,290
    Dell XPS M1730 (Core 2 Extreme X7900 2.8GHz, Dual Nvidia GeForce 8700M-GT 512MB) 8,536
    Dell XPS M1730 (Core 2 Extreme X7900 overclocked to 3.2GHz, Dual Nvidia GeForce 8700M-GT 512MB) 8,572
    Sager NP5791 (Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 2.20GHz, Nvidia GeForce 8700M-GT 512MB) 4,941
    Alienware M9750 (Intel Core 2 Duo T7600 2.33GHz, Nvidia go 7950 GTX video cards with 512MB) 7,308
    Sager NP9260 (2.66GHz Core 2 Duo E6700, 2x Nvidia GeForce Go 7950GTX video cards with 512MB DDR3) 9,097
    Alienware m5790 (1.83 GHz Core 2 Duo, ATI X1800 256MB) 2,625
    WidowPC Sting D517D (Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz, Nvidia 7900GTX 512MB) 4,833
    Apple MacBook Pro (2.00GHz Core Duo, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 128MB) 1,528
    Alienware Area 51 m5550 (2.33GHz Core 2 Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7600 256MB) 2,183
    ASUS A8Ja (1.66GHz Core Duo, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 512MB) 1,973
    Dell XPS M1710 (2.16GHz Core Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7900 GTX 512MB) 4,744


    wPrime

    wPrime is a program that forces the processor to do recursive mathematical calculations, the advantage of this program is that it is multi-threaded and can use both processor cores at once, thereby giving more accurate benchmarking measurements than Super Pi.

    Notebook / CPU wPrime 32M time
    MSI GX600 (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2.0GHz) 42.309s
    MSI GX600 (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2.4GHz) 35.231
    Dell XPS M1730 (Core 2 Extreme X7900 2.8GHz) 29.477s
    Dell XPS M1730 (Core 2 Extreme X7900 3.2GHz) 29.251s
    Sony VAIO NR (Core 2 Duo T5250 @ 1.5GHz) 58.233s
    Toshiba Tecra A9 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz) 38.343s
    Toshiba Tecra M9 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz) 37.299s
    HP Compaq 6910p (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2GHz) 40.965s
    Sony VAIO TZ (Core 2 Duo U7600 @ 1.20GHz) 76.240s
    Zepto 6024W (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2GHz) 42.385s
    Lenovo T61 (Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz) 37.705s
    Alienware M5750 (Core 2 Duo T7600 @ 2.33GHz) 38.327s
    Samsung Q70 (Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2.0GHz) 42.218s
    Acer Travelmate 8204WLMi (Core Duo T2500 @ 2.0GHz) 42.947s
    Samsung R20 (Core Duo T2250 @ 1.73GHz) 47.563s
    Dell Inspiron 2650 (Pentium 4 Mobile 1.6GHz) 231.714s


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    Game Tests

    Bioshock

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    Bioshock set to the native 1280x800 resolution of the notebook played flawlessly on the MSI GX600. I used the default detail settings, and never had any problems throughout the first few levels I played. I was able to play Bioshock at 1680x1050 resolution with minimal lag (about 16-18 frames per second).

    Crysis

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    Crysis was not as friendly as BioShock to this notebook. To even get it to work at reasonable rate, all detail levels had to be set to low, and the resolution set down to 1280x800. Even then frame rates did slow down at time, usually around heavy action.

    Heat and Noise

    This notebook was fairly tame through our testing, and under normal use was very quiet and cool. Fan noise was minimal or completely off when browsing the web. Fan noise while gaming did spike up a bit, but nothing too intrusive.

    The notebook did get quite loud when you enabled the overclocking mode. Almost instantly after pressing the switch the fan would ramp up and become very audible. During game-play the noise would increase even more, even though the turbo mode did not really help much. It's a cool feature that it can overclock on the fly, but would have been nicer if it bumped the GPU clock speeds as well.
    Below are heat overlays of the MSI GX600 listed in degrees Fahrenheit:

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    Battery

    Compared to other gaming notebooks, the GX600 wasn't that bad, pulling just over 2 hours on balanced mode, backlight 80%, and wireless enabled. Battery life could have been much higher if a larger battery was used, since this notebook only had a 4800mAh battery, smaller than even the UMPC Asus EEE PC battery.

    Input and Output Ports

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    Front: SD card reader, Line-out, microphone in, and headphone jacks. (view large image)

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    Right Side: Expresscard/54, e-SATA, MCX Antenna (not used), Firewire 400, two USB, HDMI, Svideo, VGA, and power connector. (view large image)

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    Left Side: Kensington lock slot, LAN, Modem, two USB, and optical drive. (view large image)

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    Back: Exhaust port, Kensington lock slot. (view large image)

    Upgrades

    MSI does not allow you to upgrade this notebook yourself, indicated by a &quot;Warranty Void if removed&quot; sticker covering both the HD access bay door, and the main access panel for RAM/CPU/WiFi. For a gaming notebook this is almost unheard of, since they tend to be part of the crowd most likely to pop open a notebook and upgrade some component.

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    MSI officially states the maximum supported RAM for the GX600 is 2GB. However, Intel states the PM965 chipset supports 4GB. In any case, MSI's official statement is, &quot;Each GX600 has been throughly burn tested before it leaves the factory. Hence, in order to maintain its best performance and stability, we don't recommend that end users add or swap the memory module.&quot;

    Conclusion

    For a gamer on a tight budget the MSI GX600 offers a great price for a gaming notebook. You get a stylish design that isn't too over the top, but still offers a unique design to stand out against other notebooks. My gripes are limited to some chassis flex, and lack of upgrade options, but overall it's still a very good value.

    Pros

    • Cool and Quiet
    • Turbo button overclocks on the fly
    • Full-size keyboard with numberpad

    Cons

    • MSI doesn't allow user upgrades
    • Some flex in palmrest and chassis

    Editor's Note: NotebookReview.com and MSI have teamed up to offer you a chance to win the MSI GX600 gaming notebook! Be sure to visit the contest entry page to find out more.

     
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  2. Crimsonman

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    cool review kevin!!

    how thick is it?
     
  3. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    For some reason I believe I said it in the review ;)

    Dimensions: 14.09" x 10.16" x 1.06-1.26" inches (WxDxH)
     
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    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    What's the price tag of it? :eek:
     
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    Damonbob Notebook Enthusiast

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    How much does it cost?
     
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    Damonbob Notebook Enthusiast

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    lol, I guess I am a little to slow :p
     
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    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    This model we could only find mention of the Canadian price, which was $1599.
     
  8. Paul

    Paul Mom! Hot Pockets! NBR Reviewer

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    Which would probably come out to a few hundred less USD. I'm guessing around $1299 or $1399.

    Not a bad price for an 8600GT with 2GB of RAM and an overclockable processor.
     
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    yikes, and to think I thought XPS M1730 was ugly....But nice review regardless.
     
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    Yea it is a little "flashy for me" but it is also smaller and lighter then I thought it would be. Plus for the size of the battery it seems to last a while. My friend got a G1S not to long ago at "over pricers anonymous" so I think he would love how this one looks too.
     
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    I concur, thats an economy priced portable gaming machine :)
     
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    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    $1 Canadian = $1.04 USD ;)

    Nonetheless, you still find cars here for $40,000 that one can buy for $25,000 in the States.... :(
     
  13. Night

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    Well, if you do a direct conversion, it would actually be $50 more in the US, but because companies are still not appreciating our dollar value we still pay more. I'd guess in the States the laptop would be around $1500.
     
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    who removed my post :S

    -Jabriiiz
     
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    Yep, decent bugger. If only it had bluetooth, the ram max wasnt annoying, and it would come with a 32/64bit os disk, i would have one right now.

    Oh, my, seems you didn't get the updated stats... Max ram officaly is 2gb. Yeah, seriously, 2gb. Ask msi, ask xotics, its mis listed on the detailed spec lists about 70% of places. Cus. Well. Its dumb.

    Also, it should be noted, that MSI is currently planning a 9cell battery for it. So indeed, that battery life should get quite impressive. (Got this both from MSI's CS and Xotic's. Xotic has a nice price on the bugger btw.)
     
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    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    I did. Comments like

    do not belong in review threads, or should even be posted in general. If you want to bash a product at least give some reasons.
     
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    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    Oh had some fun in the UT3 demo today :)
     

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    EW, bad decision on MSI's part to prevent upgrades on this laptop. If it is a economy gaming laptop, the main advantage is buying it cheap and upgrading some parts like RAM and HDD. :confused: Personally would never buy this, as the Inspiron 1520 has similar specs at a cheaper price and better service.
     
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    Actualy, it is suspected to be an actual hardware stability issue with the ram. Possibly involving the turbo function somehow, atleast so guessed the msi tech. As they said, it MIGHT take 2gb moduels. But theyre not gerenteeing it or stating so officaly. Certainly the chipset itself does.

    And yeah, real pity considering its supposedly MXM-II... according to early data. And really, 2gb of ram with vista... starts to get constraining for some of us.

    That said, it is only 1.2in thick according to specs. Thats pretty impressive for what it has in it and does... And the battery life is nothing to brush off... Good for a mid-light gamer, who needs something economical, and portible in one, with a decent bit of punch.
     
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    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    The graphics card is not MXM, and the ram stability when upgrading might just come in if its not matched ram. That said it was just off the shelf 667 Trancend modules, nothing fancy.
     
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    This notebook has some serious potential. I particularly like the inclusion of a number pad, considering this is a 15.4" notebook. The styling looks cool, but I feel that I'd grow tired of it really fast.

    Unfortunately, there are some serious problems. It's too bad that MSI utterly botched it with their ultra-restrictive warranty policy that gets voided just by removing the HD and RAM access covers. I mean, WTF?! This is a GAMING notebook, for Pete's sake! It's MEANT to be upgraded!!! MSI totally shot themselves in the foot with that decision.
    Also, they seemed to sacrifice the keyboard layout when stuffing in a number pad. They could have easily offset the arrow keys to make more room for the period, slash, and right shift keys, but I guess that would "ruin" the clean lines that seems to be so precious to notebook manufacturers these days. Form over function, I guess.

    The GX600 is almost a great gaming notebook, but due to just a few ill-advised decisions at MSI, I can't see who'd ever want this model. Otherwise, I'd be all over it.
     
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    Bchen06 Notebook Consultant

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    Hey,
    What do you mean by MCX Antenna "(not used)"? Is there no tuner built in? And was there a remote in the express card slot?
     
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    Cam_86 Notebook Evangelist

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    eugh... why are all the affordable gaming laptops(GX600, G1/2S, X200) so ugly/gawdy? I know this is a personal preference kinda thing, but would it kill them to allow someone to get a laptop that was not neon-green, or with flame decals on it with some good gaming potential?

    If dell would just offer a inspiron 1520 with an 8600GT 512GDDR3 ram, i would have the perfect option.
     
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    Redline Notebook Prophet NBR Reviewer

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    Theres actually a version of the GX600 (called the MS-163A) that doesn't have the graphics. I personally think it looks bland, but its not too bad - a bit like the Compal IFL90, if you ask me.
     
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    wow from the pics the build quality looks pretty decent though...most say msi has really bad build quality i know there seem to be a few quirks but imo it looks pretty decent
     
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    Great review Kevin. I got the GX600 about 2 weeks ago. The price was $1599 plus $11 shipping. I love it. You can get at the hard drive without breaking the warranty seal. I put in a 7200RPM 200GB Seagate drive. Here is a picture of HD Tune so you can see the difference:
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    As you can see, it's a substantial improvement.
    Here are my other scores with the Seagate drive installed:
    PCMark05: 5681
    3Dmark05: 6874
    3DMark06: 3295
    Super PI 2M: 49 sec
     
  27. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    No remote, and the antenna port is on the outside of the notebook, but inside isn't connected to anything tuner wise. It has one slot empty in the area which it probably uses for a tuner in some models.
     
  28. Bchen06

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    Alright, thanks!
     
  29. Googleflump

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    Its interestng comparing this model to my own. I have the GX610 performance edition which is essentially the AMD version of this laptop minus the turbo button and with a Radeon HD2600 instead of the 8600M GT.

    The GX610 is considerably cheaper (around £200) but its performance is pretty good! My machine scores exactly the same (4.7) and it is the CPU that causes rating. My memory and 2D Graphics ratings are much better, harddisk rating is the same and my 3D Graphics rating is only 0.3 lower.

    I posted a mini review of the GX610 here for anyone who is interested, it looks like a very viable alternative to the GX600 for considerably less cost. My Vista experience rating and Crysis benchmark info can be found here too.

    I'll see if I can get 3D Mark 2006 to work on it (I had problems with a DirectX 9.0c dll) as it will make for an interesting comparison....
     
  30. Googleflump

    Googleflump Newbie

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    Ok I got 3D mark 2006 working, I'm not sure what settings the GX600 was benched with, but I used the "defaults" as I have the free version and can't change any of the options. This means 1280x800, no AA and optimal filtering.

    The result with m GX610 was.....3372.

    Not bad at all IMHO
     
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    Thank you Googleflump!!

    I was looking at your 3DMark06 number. It's higher then mine so I went to your link to see how you did it. I noticed that you used a program called Mobility Modder to put desktop drivers on your laptop. Since desktop drivers are better and updated much more frequently the mobile drivers it helps out a lot.

    Obviously I can't use Mobility Modder on my Geforce card but I found directions to use Riva Tuner's NVstrap to trick Vista into thinking my 8600M GT was a 8600GTS. I then loaded up the Geforce 169.09 drivers and did a comparison. Here is what I got:
    3DMark05 went from 6874 to 7153
    3DMark06 went from 3295 to 3522

    And thats just the driver I didn't even overclock it. I used the default settings on both 3DMark's because I only have the free version. Thanks for the great idea.
     
  32. Frostycomputers

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    Well the whole warranty deal is MSI doesn’t want you to jack up your system if you don’t know what you’re doing. It’s like saying “Enter at your own risk.”
    Yes, this machine will support 4 gigs of ram, the barebones GX600 (163A) sure does. I think with the ram there is a small chance it they system could become unstable when over clocking. Of course this hasn’t been thoroughly tested by MSI. I actually think with 4 gigs of RAM in Turbo mode you should be fine. Since the turbo mode just over clocks the CPU, not effecting other components. I know for a fact upgrading the hard drive is not going to cause any major problems. Just use a standard notebook SATA drive and you’ll be fine. I probably would just stay away from upgrading the CPU since that could cause more heat maybe burnout the system. Of course this may work too, again not tested by MSI.

    I’ll tell you a secret, If you sticker is removed they will still warranty the machine. Tech support is not going to ask if the sticker was removed or not. Either way, if your machine is broken, MSI will fix it hands down under its warranty. Worst case scenario is you might have to shell out a couple bucks for them to fix it for you.

    Check out frostycomputers on ebay I have these on sale. Thanks :)
     
  33. cream626

    cream626 Notebook Guru NBR Reviewer

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    MSI laptops have very cheaply built hinges and parts... its kind of like buying the flea market version of sunglasses as oppose to spending a bit more and getting a solid pair. I had the ms-16332 for about a year and the motherboard gpu fried on me (or so thats the applied diagnosis states, i saw a laptop specialist), also the left hinge just cracked one day and the hinge that holds the screen in eventually just broke off so my screen is attached only by a wire on one side and a single puny hinge on the other. I don't have a visual feed on my computer anymore and no one seems to know what the problem is. so now it seems i have to buy a new laptop. and if you look in my review of my laptop, you will see that it has the about exactly the same build as this gx600.

    Just a warning to those looking into the buying msi laptops...mine worked well up until it broke...
     
  34. Frostycomputers

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    Well the whole warranty deal is MSI doesn’t want you to jack up your system if you don’t know what you’re doing. It’s like saying “Enter at your own risk.”
    Yes, this machine will support 4 gigs of ram, the barebones GX600 (163A) sure does. I think with the ram there is a small chance it they system could become unstable when over clocking. Of course this hasn’t been thoroughly tested by MSI. I actually think with 4 gigs of RAM in Turbo mode you should be fine. Since the turbo mode just over clocks the CPU, not effecting other components. I know for a fact upgrading the hard drive is not going to cause any major problems. Just use a standard notebook SATA drive and you’ll be fine. I probably would just stay away from upgrading the CPU since that could cause more heat maybe burnout the system. Of course this may work too, again not tested by MSI.

    I’ll tell you a secret, If you sticker is removed they will still warranty the machine. Tech support is not going to ask if the sticker was removed or not. Either way, if your machine is broken, MSI will fix it hands down under its warranty. Worst case scenario is you might have to shell out a couple bucks for them to fix it for you.

    Check out frostycomputers on ebay I have these on sale. Thanks 
     
  35. Frostycomputers

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    You know you can try contacting technical support at MSI and do an out of warranty repair. They’ll fix it up for you. A 16332 replacement laptop motherboard is about $200, hinges and cables about $5, you also might need an LVDS cable that hooks up to the LCD panel. I think the hinge was a known issue for the older ms-16332 models and MSI has used a better reinforced hinge on the new 163A barebone (GX600). The build is similar but not exactly the same. Your 16332 is an 87 key layout and the newer GX600 is a 103 key layout. GX600 is a solid gamming machine.
     
  36. Myrk

    Myrk Notebook Geek

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    with what kind of warranty does this notebook come? is it global applyable (specifically canada and germany) or just valid in the country you buy it?

    How long is it?
    Are there any extending options?
     
  37. c00lidge

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    i want this notebook soo bad. those flames are horrendous tho
     
  38. nomercy311

    nomercy311 Notebook Enthusiast

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    They enhanced the GX600 laptop with these feautures

    * Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T8300 (2.4-2.88 (turbo enabled)) Ghz 3 mb L2 Cache - (45nm Penryn ready)
    * 15.4" WXGA (1440 x 900) Widescreen Super Glare TFT Display
    * Mobile Intel® GM965 Express Chipset Family
    * NVIDIA® 8600M-GT 512 DDR 2 + Turbo Cache- Microsoft DirectX 10 support
    * Windows Vista Home Premium/ XP compatible
    * DVD+-RW/ CD+-RW
    * 3 Gigs of DDR 2 memory
    * 320 Gb SATA HDD
    * Built In 1.3 Megapixel Webcam
    * Integrated Wireless G/ Bluetooth/ Gigabyte Ethernet
    * E-SATA connector
    * HDMI connector

    :cool:
     
  39. tanismarbella

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    Hi, i bought a laptop from www.Frostycomputers.com .
    Ben Hsu, that is the person that is beside that web page, sent me a laptop with problems. I sent him for being repaired on warranty. Three months has passed and he hasnt send me my laptop. He doesn't answer to my e-mails, skype or phone calls.
    Be careful with him because you can loose your laptop and money. And don't know why he is actin like this, i paid for the laptop in the same moment i win the bid. Thanks and be careful.