Microsoft Office 2010 Release, Reviews on the Horizon Discussion

The highly anticipated release of Microsoft Office 2010 is just around the corner, with an edition for business volume license holders scheduled for May 12 and the consumer version coming June 15.

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are you implying the ribbon was better? because it certainly wasn't.

That being said, no ribbon means I will more than likely upgrade from 2003. (actually I'm running office 2010 beta with a plug in to get me my menus).

 

Gahhh...and I was just starting to be able to find my way around that god forsaken ribbon, and now they change it?!?

 

No, there was not such implication.

 

well it putting it in 'quotes' kinda made it seem like the ribbon was a good thing.

oh well, it's gone which makes me VERY happy!

 

who said ribbons were gone?

 

Not everyone hated the ribbon. It was jarring at first, but I got used to it. And it's been improved further, if the 2010 beta is any guide.

I know some folks who use Office for Mac who were very disappointed *not* to have the ribbon in Office 2008.

 

Yuio, it is better... Just because you probably only gave it one chance, its not bad.

 

Are you sure the ribbon is gone? It sure doesn't look gone to me. To be fair, it's become second nature to me now.

 

I've been using the beta for several months now. It's extremely good, certainly a better interface than the previous edition. Not perfect, but a job well done.

 

lol, no. I'm forced to use it at school all the time, and it's horrible... not to mention try navigating the ribbon with a keyboard... yikes...

according to the artical ribbon is gone:

 

Either way I have to get the new one and like it no matter what happens (no choice), so I will decide if I like the ribbon once 2010 comes out If it there I like it if not we should have never had it

 

Thats why we have the mouse, sport.

 

Ribbon is easier to navigate with keyboard.
Just press f10 and follow the on-screen instruction.

 

Ribbon's not gone, it's now placed in all Office 2010 applications.

The addition of a "File" tab to the ribbon (which contains the same functions as the Office menu in 2007), doesn't mean they changed all of it.

Everyone makes such a fuss about the ribbon, even 3 years later. Yes, it's a change but change happen's. Microsoft kept getting feature requests for the same features over and over and over, just because people couldn't find them / didn't feel like using help, etc..

By using the ribbon, it exposes these options to more people. What Microsoft COULD do to allievate people's resistance to it is to build in the "Search Commands" add-in.: http://www.officelabs.com/projects/searchcommands/Pages/default.aspx




That said, Office 2010 is way faster for me than 2007. Esp. start up speed. I also like how it's not "blue" like 2007. I know you can change the color in both but I like the semitransparent default that 2010 has.

 

Really? On my machine, Office 2010 (64-bit beta) is significantly slower at startup than Office 2007. 2-3 seconds (more on first launch) versus well under 1. It's the one thing that I was hoping Microsoft would 'fix' before release...

 

o my first install 2010 was slow maybe 2-4 seconds or slower even.
i reinstalled and now everything loads in 1 sec or less.
i think my first install was an online installation that checks for updates and such.

 

x64 2010 beta has been amazing on w7pro64 but as soon as i installed the 32 bit variant on my xp virtual machine the VM went ape sh-- and i couldnt do anything other than force quit excel and everything promptly returned to normal. kind of annoying but not a deal breaker. it also managed to reconfigure my VM to where I need to enter a PW any time I resize the VM window in win7...

 

I personally use x86.. I didn't notice any speed improvement with x64 so i cant see the use...

 

no upgrade for us previous owners kind of sucks. its going to be hard to justify the price to my boss but the interface looks terrific.

 

I agree, i liked 2007's look MUCH better which is why i even avoided bothering with 2010 on my laptop where i use word all the time.

It find it fair not to make upgrade, i mean its a new piece of software, they cant just make upgrades all the time for everything they do, hehe.

 

If you bought office after March 21st I think you get the upgrade.

Otherwise you have to get a new copy.

 

There is no reason at all to upgrade from the 2003 version if you already own it. A total waste of money. It's time to wean yourself off MS products.
If you need office software, I strongly suggest OpenOffice.org 3.1 which does the job for free. At the same time you could install a version of Linux (even dual boot with win7) because Linux and open source is the future.
Not to mention the web apps available such as google docs to augment OpenOffice when needed.

 

Better to take user's point of view instead of making a blanket prescription for everyone, without considering their specific need.

First Open Office is good. I have used it before and its excellent for a free product. But its marginally slower and a tiny bit more crash prone. In particular, if you are doing heavy duty writing, I personally find MS Word better.

Second MS Office is meaninglfully improved in this new version. The interface of Outlook, Powerpoint and Word in particular are much better. Better enough to make you much more productive.

Plus Office gives you OneNote and Visio which are useful for some people also.

The real quesiton is price. Is the overall package, better than the free Open Office? Yes. But how much is that worth? Well that depends on each person and what they do. If you only really need word processing and light e-mail, sure you can get along great with Gmail and Google Docs with Offline sync. In fact you will be better off with than than both OpenOffice and Open Office. But for many others with specific needs, it can be worthwhile paying for MS Office. All depends on whether you can get it for a good price.

BUt the idea that it has no value is way too extreme.

 

really? not everyone can use a mouse by the way...

as for the Linux and Openoffice stuff this software is good for free but, openoffice has nothing on MS office when it comes to support and accessibility. Linux is fantastic, except it's not an open OS only 'normal' people can use it...try running any special software and you will find windows is the only solution.

any guesses why I'm not 'normal'?

 

The majority is not retarded, and besides as stated by something previously, Office 2007/2010 has great support for keyboard-only use.

 

I don't get it. I've been using it since technical preview and now the RTM. Ribbon is still there

 

and it obviously is staying there.. i dont get either why they say its gone lol

 

wow, I'm actually going to take offense to that. are you seriously that naive? or just flat out arrogant? let me enlighten you with an example.

There are people that can't SEE who need to use computers like everyone else, but with keyboard only. these people we call BLIND and they are not "retarded", though 90% of the world thinks they are so I guess you kinda correct.

the fact that it's accessible doesn't mean it's easy to find things in it. I know few blind people that like ribbon, in fact I can't think of any.

/end rant

 

No way he's correct. He's the slow one if you ask me. You live in this world and you only see yourself and your needs. And everyone else's retarded? No way.
Just like the 'total waste of money' comment a few posts back.

While in general OpenOffice is sufficient for certain functions, there's no replacement for Excel right now. It is way better than any similar OSS software out there right now.

 

I'm pretty sure it's possible to compare Office 2007 to Office 2010 without use of the word "retard." Let's keep it clean, folks.

/just saying

 

WOW! Posts like this really make me wish we had neg rep again....REALLY!

 

This. No one who seriously uses Excel can claim OO is a sufficient replacement. I like OO and have it on my home laptop but I am seriously considering Office 2010 both for Excel and for Quickbooks functionality (though that's more a luxury than necessity).

 

yah the good old days of neg rep...

why can't the who argument be settled with MS putting in an option - I like my menu, you can have your 'ribbon'.

edit @ your sig. a modern diesel is cleaner than a gasoline engine + the fuel is cheaper (15c/Lilter here or ~60c/gallon)

 

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The ribbon was the biggest GUI improvement MS had made to office since I can remember... It was AMAZING. Absolutely logical and intuitive to me.. and I can see the engineers at MS had really thought it out. By the time I finished writing my graduate thesis, I had become extremely proficient with the ribbon.

But "In order to learn something new, you have to unlearn the old" and I was amazed to realize just how many people have that difficulty... even on a technology forum like this one .