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    Sony VAIO Z Review Discussion

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by dietcokefiend, Jul 6, 2010.

  1. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    The VAIO Z is Sony's 13.1-inch ultra-portable powerhouse. Features like Core i5 and i7 processors, RAID0 hard drive arrays and 1080P displays never end up describing a 13-inch notebook, but with Sony it does. The VAIO Z also offers switchable graphics with the NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M to give users solid gaming performance one second and low-power consumption the next. In this review we take a look at a modestly equipped Sony VAIO Z and see how it stacks up against the competition.



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  2. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Yeah, I agree that it's a no-compromises notebook with the pricetag to match. It is expensive but not overpriced; the Z fills a niche market and they probably don't expect to sell a ton of them.

    1920x1080 on a 13.1" . . . where do I sign?
     
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    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Is it me or is that thing really housing an abnormal amount of hardware?
     
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    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    This is my dream notebook *drools* :p

    But yes, its hardware and build quality are pretty unique given its form factor and weight. Seems it's still as good as it was when the line first came out :)

    The only quote on quote "bad thing" I can see is the battery life given that it's an ultraportable, but it's still an average battery life and very good considering what it's packing ^^
     
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    abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I love the redundancy in the cons,

    What are the internal temps with the i5 like?
     
  6. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    How else do you describe the 2,000 price and the 5,000 price :p

    At the bottom of the sheet that says "your wages for the next 10 years + soul" ;)
     
  7. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    "Premium/luxury pricing" I believe they call it :p
     
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    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    High performance mode, ~3/4 of the way through wprime 1024M
     

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    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    Great review, always wanted one but sadly a little out of my price range.
     
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    Aviynw Newbie

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    Bartholomew Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks! Your review helped me make my decision, I'm going go ahead and purchase a Z12. I think I'll get the silver, it seems distinctive vs. the typical all-black color you usually see in a notebook.

    I also think the only way I will deviate from the base config is that I will upgrade to a 256GB SSD. The 128GB seems like it would get used up awfully fast, especially when I'm guessing that only 70-80GB would still be free on a formatted and Windows 7 fully installed machine.
     
  12. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    are you sure it can take quad cores?
    i'm surprised a 13'' laptop has 3 drive bays. are they 2.5'' or 1.8''?
     
  13. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    Do you have a Sony store anywhere within driving distance? The one here in Cincinnati has all the various Z models on display in each offered color scheme (at least they did last time I was there). I really suggest seeing the finishes in person before buying one. :)
     
  14. abaddon4180

    abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso

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    :eek: How is that even possible?
     
  15. TofuTurkey

    TofuTurkey Married a Champagne Mango

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    No, dual core, with each physical core having two virtual cores.

    The Z1s either come with Sony SSDs + DVD/BR, or just HDD. For the Sony SSDs, the Z11s use custom Samsung SSDs (smaller than 1.8"), with an SSD on each side of the board (hence 4 SSDs reside on two sandwiched boards). For the newer Z12s, the connectors to the Toshiba-branded SSDs seem to be non-proprietary (micro-SATA), it's still not clear how Z12's 4 SSDs can fit, or if they go back to using Samsung ones. It is also not clear if the Toshiba SSDs in Z12s have the same size as 1.8" drives.

    For the HDD-optioned Zs, there's no DVD/BR drives, in place of that there is the normal 2.5" HDD, which can be replaced with any commercial 2.5" SSD (which is what I did). It is also possible to install two off-the-shelf 2.5" bare SSDs, though that requires some work :)
     
  16. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    One word: MAGIC
     
  17. abaddon4180

    abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Smart a$$ :D

    Did you try running IntelBurn Test? I find it usually stresses better than wPrime
     
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    Bartholomew Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm in State College, PA (which is at about the center of PA). The nearest Sony Style store is near Philly at the awesome King of Prussia mall (one of the biggest malls in the USA). There's also a Micro Center near there. My brother lives down there, so maybe I'll make the trip and see them in person before pulling the trigger. Do you know if they have the 1080p screen option on any of the in-store models? It would be great to be able to see that.
     
  19. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    Not sure on that. I also just found out today that the Cincinnati Sony store closed, making one like 2-3 hours away the only nearby location :(
     
  20. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Thats one sweet notebook.
    Me wants. xD
     
  21. heckman

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    Awesome computer, way too expensive.

    Will you be doing a review of the latest Vaio Y i3 with integrated graphics?
     
  22. visiom88

    visiom88 Notebook Evangelist

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    Very tempting machine. However, with the price tag, I can only drool at it. :cry:

    I would also love to see how Vaio Y Series is reviewed on NBR before mine arrives next week.
     
  23. ac500

    ac500 Notebook Evangelist

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    I think it's interesting that a lot of people here don't seem to have even heard of the Sony Z before now - it's been out for years! I guess Sony isn't the greatest at marketing, or maybe they just think it's too niche to be worth advertising.

    Anyway I'm glad NBR finally got around to doing an official review. Definitely take a look at it in a store if you can, very nice laptop! :)
     
  24. blue13x

    blue13x Notebook Deity

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    I just got the maxed out system, this thing is a monster!
     
  25. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    Oh, we've heard of them but like most mere mortals can only dream about one.
     
  26. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    Did you already purchase it or were you going to buy one next week?

    The VAIO Y is actually my next in line system that I am working on right now.

    *Also*

    The Z gets packed up for return tomorrow morning. If you guys have any further hands-on questions or info you want off our review unit let me know. I will check the forums tomorrow before I send her off.
     
  27. phiorala

    phiorala Notebook Consultant

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    I think you're referring to the VGN-Z, which was certainly out from 2008. This review is for the VPC-Z, the all new one introduced Q1 of 2010. :)
     
  28. JP$

    JP$ Notebook Evangelist

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    My temps on the processor cores and the GPU usually reach upper 80s after playing a game for a few hours. That's with the GPU overclocked.

    All in all, I find the cooling system on this machine to be nothing short of remarkable, considering its size.
     
  29. tktk

    tktk Notebook Evangelist

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    Good review for an amazing feet of engineering. I want more than need a Z- so I'll wait. But I hope this type of size/performance migrates down to more affordable levels over the next few years. There are some amazing 13" machines in the $1300...2 kg range slowly hitting the market. But having this type of performance at 1.3 kg is unique.
     
  30. consumer1

    consumer1 Newbie

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    I was looking to order an adjusted version of what your reviewed but I don't see the same model listed.

    At the Sony site, I can configure the following:
    - Intel® Core™ i7-620M processor (2.66GHz) with Turbo Boost up to 3.33GHz
    - 13.1" VAIO Full HD Premium Display (1920x1080)
    - 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3-SDRAM-1066
    - 256GB (128GBx2) Solid State Drive with RAID 0 Technology
    - Blu-ray Disc™ Player/Burner

    It makes no mention of (a) the weight or (b) the video card model number.

    There is no option to select 3 SSDs (of any size).

    The model number is different also: VPCZ1290X.


    I'm curious how accurate your review results are with this many differences between what you tested and what is configurable at the Sony site.

    Can you provide some information on this, Kevin?

    Thanks.
     
  31. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    The Sony website sells various Z models, but not the specific configuration we reviewed. You can actually buy the exact configuration through one retailer right now:

    Sony VAIO VPCZ127GX/B 13.1" Z Series Notebook PC - Black in PC Notebook Computers at JR.com

    Googling our model number listed in the specs brings you right to that page :)

    Depending on how old the item is when we receive it and when companies come in and out of stock, or even as updates come out, models we review can differ from what is currently available on the manufacturer's website.
     
  32. JOSEA

    JOSEA NONE

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    In the original review was the stock battery tested or the optional 84 W?
    Suggestion, Notebookreview should have a contest with one of these incredible machines as top prize.
    Thanks, Josea
     
  33. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    Stock battery was tested in the review.
     
  34. JP$

    JP$ Notebook Evangelist

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    I think the problem is you're not looking in the right place. If you want info on the graphics card and the weight, you need to click "Explore Series Details" from the main laptop selection screen (at least on SonyStyle USA). There is a specifications tab where you can view the GPU and weight specificatios.

    And no, Sony doesn't indicate whether the SSD configuration is in dual, triple, or quad RAID 0. For a complete analysis of the various dual, triple, and quad RAID options, I suggest you take a look at the table created by Sunfox in the first post of this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/son...g-term-ssd-performance-post-your-results.html
     
  35. consumer1

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    Thanks for the info, all. I'll keep exploring.
     
  36. MGS2392

    MGS2392 NAND Cat!

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    I'd hate to have your job. Play with nice little gadgets for a little while, write a review, then have the man in the brown uniform pry the precious things from your fingers just as you're getting acquainted.

    Anyways, if I minded weight and size, I'd have a Z. Alas, my 8730w feels like nothing to me.
     
  37. Bartholomew

    Bartholomew Notebook Enthusiast

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    All right! I took the plunge tonight and ordered a custom model from the Sony Style website, mostly because the pre-built models online didn't have the exact configurations that I wanted. Thanks for your review; it helped to sway my decision.

    * Standard Capacity Battery
    * No Fresh Start
    * Adobe Bundle ($448 value.)
    * 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3-SDRAM-1066
    * Microsoft® Office 2010 Starter
    * No Mobile Broadband Built-In
    * Norton Internet Security™ 2010 (30 Day Trial)
    * Blu-ray Disc™ Player/Burner
    * No Engraving
    * Intel® Core™ i5-540M processor (2.53GHz) with Turbo Boost up to 3.06GHz
    * 13.1" VAIO Full HD Premium Display (1920x1080)
    * Silver
    * Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 64-bit
    * 256GB (128GBx2) Solid State Drive with RAID 0 Technology
     
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    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    I will hunt you down and steal it! (unless you take pictures of that 1080p display)
     
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    I ended up pulling the trigger as well.

    I7, 8GB, "256x2", 1920, BR
     
  40. MidnightSun

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    A 1920x1080 screen in a 13.3" laptop sure would be something... now if there was a Thinkpad with that screen... ;)

    Thanks for the review, Kevin!
     
  41. Carmien

    Carmien Notebook Guru

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    I'll confirm that - no quad core for i7M chip.

    I just ordered mine yesterday. I'm speaking with Sony about TRIM in RAID, but other than that I'm very excited at the laptop I'm getting.

    I'm blessed to run my own business. I'll be using this for business and for gaming. And yes, I'm one of those consultants that, given the work I do in technology, that using sh*thot tech is a part of showing client I'm tuned in.

    The z555 I owned at 3lbs with the ability to 3D game was always sweet. I'm hearing stories of 20-30 second boot up times with the raid 0 SSDs, and solid DX10 gaming at 16x9 resolution. Note: I deliberately avoided Full HD. I can use HDMI and my 52" monitor if I need Full HD experience from this laptop. But I've gotten used to that res and the text is small enough already. Full HD on a 13" screen is not for me. But Sony LCDs are AMAZING. My z555 is still beautiful 2 years later.
     
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    So frustrating that they strip the TPM for US models.
     
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    Hope that you never need service. I have had a Vaio Z for over two months. All the bells and whistles, plus docking station and case, over $2,500. Two weeks ago my unit died. Since it was off hours, I had to redial their non-prime time facility, probably offshore. After explaing the problem and basic troubleshooting, I was told that I would be hearing from a tech in 3 business days. I called on that day, was told the part was enroute and it would be a few more business days until I heard from the on-site service tech. But they sent the part to the wrong address. Reorder, but now there are no more parts in stock. After 3 calls to tech support, no one can tell me when the backordered part will be available, it could be weeks, but they may have parts if I ship it to them, but turnaround is up to 14 business days and they can't give me any guarantee if they will have the part at their facility (separate inventory and system), or if I will get priority turnaround despite their bungling. I asked to be escalated or to talk to their customer relations, and after checking the guy said they will just tell me to wait, so file a complaint online if I have an issue. Unacceptable! For a premium price machine, the customer service and support is awful!!!
     
  44. freedom16

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    Wow reminds me of my Asus G73JH Woes! Kinda reason why i got rid of it, its was a great machine but boy it just was so cheap feeling and plastically for the price you pay and now i have a m11x and will get the Envy 14 eventually. But this machine still remains up to date the most powerful, lightest and overpriced ultraportable laptop on the market. I can't deal with ssds you can even take out!
     
  45. Infernal_Machine

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    so this or an m11x?
     
  46. JP$

    JP$ Notebook Evangelist

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    This.

    For the Z...
    Solid State Drive
    Better CPU
    Classier design
    Internal ODD
    Better Screen

    Really the M11x's only advantage in my opinion is the GPU. That and it's price of course. I guess if you're looking for gaming only, the M11x might be the way to go. But then again, if you're looking for gaming, I would probably just go with a larger more powerful laptop anyway. Or a desktop.

    [Edit]

    I take some if it back...

    I didn't realize you could customize the M11x now with an SSD and core i processors. Makes it stiffer competition for the Z I suppose. Personally, I'd still choose the Z just on looks alone. Especially since maxing out the M11x makes it quite pricey too.
     
  47. Enny02

    Enny02 Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,

    did or can someone test the display's (1600x900 version) color space? I'd like to know if it also covers 100% of sRGB color space as the Z11.

    regards

    Enny
     
  48. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Great review! Nice machine! +1 rep to the author! :)
     
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    bazguk Newbie

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    So here is something I haven't seen mentioned on the hours I have spend reading up on the Z on this forum. I just purchased the z1290X to replace my old MBP. Yes, I returned to the windows camp.

    Anyway, yesterday, I am working away at moving files over from the MBP, and I notice the distinction in brightness between the two laptops. The MBP (2007 model) is significantly brighter than the Z. Granted, its colors seem more washed out, but the brightness is undeniably weaker on the Z.

    Has anyone else experienced this?

    I have had the Z for 2 weeks now, and loved every minute of it. This the first and only gripe I have had with the unit so far, but fear its dire enough to consider returning to the Mac camp. I simply don't understand - these models use the dura-Xbrite screens - the tech should be similar to that in the Apple notebooks, no?
     
  50. JP$

    JP$ Notebook Evangelist

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    You need to turn off auto-brightness in the Vaio Control Panel. This is not a good feature, as it keeps the brightness far too low, even when plugged into AC. Disable this and crank up the brightness using the Fn keys. I bet you the brightness will give your MBP a run for its money.
     
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