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    7600GT in Hel-80 from ibuypower

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by peekaboom, Sep 27, 2006.

  1. peekaboom

    peekaboom Notebook Consultant

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    Hello. I saw this posted over at NBF. If you scroll down the ibuypower front page there is hel-80 pictured listing the 7600gt. If you configure that model, it doesn't indicate that however.

    What I'm wondering is if any other resellers have heard about a 7600gt going into the compal-80. It would be amazing if that were the case. The underclocked 7600 is the main reason why I'm shying away from the hel-80 atm.

    Why doesn't ibuypower have the 1680x1050 resoulution screens either?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    Good questions for ibuypower...no one here will know why they are doing that.
     
  3. peekaboom

    peekaboom Notebook Consultant

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    I've e-mailed them and I will let you all know what they have to say. I posted my questions mainly b/c I was wondering if other resellers could ship models with the 7600gt. If that is the case, it would be pretty slick.
     
  4. Donald@Paladin44

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    Compal does not make an HEL80 with the GeForce Go 7600 GT card. It must be a typo on their site.
     
  5. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    That being said, most people have been able to clock the 7600 in the HEL-80 to stock speeds without ill effects. Take from that what you will.
     
  6. l33t_c0w

    l33t_c0w Notebook Deity

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    stock core clock speeds, anyways (as opposed to memory speeds)
     
  7. JimyTheAssassin

    JimyTheAssassin Notebook Evangelist

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    I've looked around to compare other go7600 specs for core/mem differences and near as I can tell many of the go7600 chips are equiped with ddr2 that runs stock at 350 or 375. I'm betting that depends on the maker like desktop variants see i.e. infineon vs. hynix. We've seen the core reach 450+ which is inline with Nvidia's site, but the proposed 500mhz mem must be reserved to GDDR3, which the macbook pro has for example..although it only has 128megs. But I still haven't found many real examples core/mem clocks in other notebooks to compare fully.
     
  8. aurawolf

    aurawolf Notebook Consultant

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    What I personally would want to see is a Compal 8x Series with a 7700GO in it, if they did there is a chance the card would be a upgrade to exsisting 7600 HEL80. What would be even better is if Donald and crew would be able to install it for us if we sent in the unit :)
     
  9. Donald@Paladin44

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    Once Compal releases the HEL8x with the 7700 card we will have them, and we could install them on existing machines as long as the thermal solution is the same. I expect it will be since it is really the same card basically with just the other 4 pipelines opened. That is I don't see any reason the 7700 would require a stronger cooling system.

    Now, the if and when Compal releases them is a different issue. At this point it is not on their roadmap, but will hopefully be in the 1st Qtr of next year.
     
  10. chrisyano

    chrisyano Hall Monitor NBR Reviewer

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    I don't really think it would be worth it for current HEL80 owners to spend the extra money on a GPU that doesn't outperform your current one by much.

    Save that money for your next system.

    Now if you are a future buyer and have the choice down the line for a go 7700 in a new HEL80 it's a different story.
     
  11. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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  12. JimyTheAssassin

    JimyTheAssassin Notebook Evangelist

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    more press links..
    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2008681,00.asp
    http://www.engadget.com/tag/geforce%20go%207600gs/
    http://www.velocitymicro.com/mediarelations_pr_20060925.php
    here with a red top http://www.twice.com/article/CA6375369.html
    and a sale page here
    http://www.velocitymicro.com/wizard.php?iid=80
    with out any specs, it's hard to know, is it just an updated 7600 with the new 80nm die? Did they mean GT instead? we shall see perhaps

    edit: I just had a thought.. and you can laugh or not.. Maybe, Just maybe.. this new 7600gs.. is simply the 7600 at stock speeds 450/500 gddr3
     
  13. peekaboom

    peekaboom Notebook Consultant

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    if they release a non-uinderclocked gpu or a new gpu for the hel-80, I'm sold.
     
  14. bribri135

    bribri135 Notebook Guru

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    Well they may release underclocked GPU's in the Geforce Go 7600 but remember, you can always overclock the Go 7600 because its underclocked, just look at the Go 7600 OC thread, you can find this here.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=61174

    I see that they have achieved very stable results with minimal heat addition.

    As to the ibuypower.com's Hel-80, they don't offer integrated bluetooth either! Well I was wondering if I don't get integrated bluetooth for my Hel-80 can I add it myself?
     
  15. chrisyano

    chrisyano Hall Monitor NBR Reviewer

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    You should be able to add the module yourself. I would find out from ibuypower before buying though if BT is a must for you. It looks like the standard HEL80 so it shouldn't be a problem. I know powernotebooks sells the module.

    Pricewise, when I configured a HEL80 on their site I don't see much of a difference between them and the other reseller's HEL80 prices though. I would recommend going with a highly rated reseller even if it were a little more expensive.
     
  16. peekaboom

    peekaboom Notebook Consultant

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    I e-mailed ibuypower about this. The person who responsed didn't seem that knoweledge and gave phrase responses. Needless to say:

    1) they don't have a geforece 7600 GT. So its just bad advertising on their part.

    2) Second, they don't offer the high resolution matte screens either.

    so much for that line of inquiry
     
  17. chrisyano

    chrisyano Hall Monitor NBR Reviewer

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    peekaboom, you may want to consider buying from a reputable reseller. I didn't see much of a price difference from ibuypower's and the other resellers.
     
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    Sure, it is easy. Here are the pictoral instructions for both the TV Tuner and Bluetooth modules. Just be careful not to lose your screws that should come in your accessories box with the laptop because they do not come with the modules.

    Both modules are also avialable in our Accessories Store
     
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    wifi1 Notebook Geek

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    Is 480/369 the highest overclock possible? The thread is long and I tried searching the thread but didn't get what I'm after. Why is the 7600 so heavily underclocked? If it's a heating issue, couldn't the engineers worked for a better design?
     
  20. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Overclocking ability is completely dependent on your specific machine. Maybe you'll get a good one, maybe you won't.
     
  21. chrisyano

    chrisyano Hall Monitor NBR Reviewer

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    The clock speeds that paladin44 came up with were after extensive testing he and his technicians did to make sure that the levels he reported to us were relatively safe to use.

    Of course there is always a danger of damaging your GPU with overclocking, so do at your own risk, especially if you attempt to exceed the speeds he outlined for you.

    Regardless of clockspeeds, this systems games just fine even at stock settings. If clockspeeds and benchmarks are more important than real-life usage, perhaps an Asus is a better fit for you.