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    Change CPU & graphics card in 6324

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by JayN1, Dec 15, 2007.

  1. JayN1

    JayN1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    My first question is if it is possible to change the cpu to one of the new penryns, I would like to change it to the coming 2.8 Ghz penryn mobile, that would indeed boost performance. Would this be theoretically and practically possible?

    And second, I have learned that the graphics card in this laptop is a MXM type II. Will it be possible when the GeForce 9600 mobile card is coming out the coming summer to change this? I have also heard speculations about a 8800 gs for MXM II...

    Thanks, Jakob.
     
  2. thomaskc.dk

    thomaskc.dk Notebook Deity

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    Dont expect any of that to be possible.. the cpu could in theory, but proberly not, because im not sure it will be running on the santa rosa chipset which you got now.

    gfxcard cant be changed.

    Another rather important issue is heat, 14,1" models from zepto has been limited to have 2,0 ghz cpu's even though zepto sells 2,2 and 2,4 ghz. But simply because of lack of space inside for airflow and cooling. if you put a 2,8 ghz inside your 14,1" it will melt down :)
     
  3. DodgeThis

    DodgeThis Notebook Guru

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    Sell it on the forums (use the appropriate thread) , E-Bay or local ad.

    By the time you have spent researching, time taken & the cost you will be better of getting a new one.

    However the new chip but more precisely graphics card 9800 will not be out until nearly or just after 2nd quarter 2008.
     
  4. CLB-NL

    CLB-NL Notebook Deity

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    That has nothing to do with the cpu speed... :)
    I have a 2,20GHz processor in my 6224W and it's get as hot as a 2,00Ghz
    and a 2,40GHz processor!! It just because of the architecture of the processor

    And you need a MXM III slot for new videocards..
    - First Zepto hasn't got a MXM III slot
    - Second Zepto's hasn't got MXM II slots also ;)
     
  5. Sprint

    Sprint DTR Super Mod

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    CPU is tecnically possible to change, at least to another Merom, but it WILL void your warranty if you do it yourself. And for the graphics card, even if its physically possible to change, it wll not work as the GPU BIOS is soldered to the motherboard BIOS (in the same BIOS). So you would need to have a new BIOS too for it to work.
     
  6. JayN1

    JayN1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you for your answers.

    So changing the graphics card is out of the question.

    Regarding the cpu-change: I think the different Core 2 Duos; T7100, T7300, T7500 and T7700 to mention a few, generates the same amount of heat. Basically the CPUs is tested by Intel to see how good they are, they are then multiplier locked, but takes the same amount of volt, and thereby generates the same amount of heat, correct?

    Therefore, with a bios update to the 6324, my theory is that the new CPUs will work, as long as they dont generate more heat than the previous generation. They are the same socket (socket P), same FSB.
     
  7. SuperRoach

    SuperRoach Notebook Guru

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    First reports say that the newer cpus generate less heat, in all generations.... So if it is physically possible, you will have a gain in performance, as well as cpu speed.
     
  8. n0elia

    n0elia Come on Haswell...

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    Less heat = performance gain? ehh :confused: Think you got something wrong there.
    It's got new SSE instructions, which means faster audio/video encoding, but nothing else. Oh 6 mb cache, but that doesn't change much.

    With less heat you can overclock it more, and in that way gain more performance :)
     
  9. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Perhaps it is significant that Zepto, at least on some of their sites, only went up to 2GHz with the T7xxx CPUs, but 2.6GHz is now an option if you can afford it.

    The puzzling part is that the T7250 is £0.29 more expensive than the slightly faster T8100.

    Penryn should be cheaper because Intel can get more on a wafer.

    John
     
  10. Sprint

    Sprint DTR Super Mod

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    The new Penryns are faster than the Meroms at same clock, and its not only becos if +2MB cache
     
  11. JayN1

    JayN1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    #8 --> I think what he means is that less heat means a possibility for higher clockspeeds, which increases performance. Overclocking is really just increasing the clock-speed.

    I think i might be settling for the T9300 at 2.5 Ghz, that is still a 25% increase for me clockspeed-wise, and 50% extra cache. Should maybe give me 30% more performance in some cases.

    I would really like someone to describe how to do it, as i am rather nervous doing it myself without any guidance. Havent tried messing with a notebooks inside before. I think the T9300 and T9500 will be available in two weeks time.
    Otherwise it would be really nice if Zepto as a service would upgrade the processor for the price of the T9300, they can have my old processor back ;)
     
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  13. Rene S - Zepto

    Rene S - Zepto Company Representative

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    JayN, we can upgrade the CPU if it is tested to be supported in the machine.
    We normally do this at the price of the difference in the CPU's (we normally give a fair price on buying the CPU back) plus half an hour of technician time, plus the shipping back to the customer.

    The reason why the customer have to pay for the technician time and the shipping back is because it is the customers own choice to send in the machine to get the CPU (or any other part) replaced when not defective.

    EDIT: This is not something we always do. It really depends on if we would be able to sell the CPU sitting in the machine already. We do not exchange from T2xxx to T7xxx for example. If we have no way of selling the CPU in the machine to upgrade price would be the sales price of the CPU + technician time + shipping.
     
  14. n0elia

    n0elia Come on Haswell...

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    So how much do you think it will cost to upgrade from T7500 to T9500 in DKK :) ?
     
  15. Rene S - Zepto

    Rene S - Zepto Company Representative

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    No, idea as i don't have the prices in my head :D

    EDIT: also i've edited my last post.
     
  16. thomaskc.dk

    thomaskc.dk Notebook Deity

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    Rene S.

    Sounds really great! so there is hope for upgradable laptops :D Never thought we would see the day.
     
  17. CLB-NL

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    Upgrading... dudes :) The Penryn is here!!!

    All with all it is a really nice computer that has a quite nice performance-increase in comparison with a T7500. Myself shouldn't upgrade my processor from a T7500 to a T9300 (for a price of: 316 dollar = 215 euro = 160 pound) because of this advantage. The heat and batteryconsumption are imho bigger pro's for this new Penryn processors!! If you can choose between the T7xxx series and the T9xxx series with a little difference in price, go for the T9-series!

    All with all the new Penryn processors are really cool (literally and figurative) and you really have to buy them when buying a new Zepto notebook! Upgrading from your T7xxx processor to a T9xxx is your own choice! If you really need the power, need the less heat and need the extra batterypower it would be a nice buy! I am waiting on the new generations Zepto's (with better videocards, better and bigger screens and new features and ofcourse with the new processors)
    My personal findings of the new processors is very positive and all with all: BUY IT!! ;-)