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    EVGA Gaming Laptop

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by cj_miranda23, Jan 7, 2016.

  1. cj_miranda23

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    Everything I wish for in a 17 inch laptop is coming finally:

    Slim design
    Unibody
    White backlight
    Minimalistic
    Stronk processing power

    Also apparently the ETA is February 2016 from the idg.tv video
     
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    It seems a high quality product.
     
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    This would be a nice replacement for my Envy 17 2xxx 3D.

    Everything on the SC17 looks good besides the screen and the bezel realestate at the bottom of the screen.

    They should have gone with a 120Hz 1080p and a different type of hinge. Maybe placed the speakers in different positions where your palms wouldn't touch them.
     
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    i wonder how cooling is in such a small machine with a 980m
     
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    The design tricks the eyes a bit.

    The backside is raised much higher and is also thicker resulting in much more space than the front of the laptop.

    The whole backside also seems like one large fan input/ exhaust.

    Hopefully it has a 2 fan cooling solution.

    I just wish the screen was a little bit better : /

    Also the Unibody seems like it might support US and EU (UK, Ger) type keyboards where the difference is the large Enter key.

    [​IMG]
    This could potentially reduce costs if the end user has to replace the keyboard.
     
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    The location of the speaker is definitely a concern. Hoping they can add a thunderbolt I/O, this combine with razer core would be perfect.

    By the way EVGA is an american company, can we expect a american made laptop?
     
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    Very good point about thunderbolt. I assumed that the USB 3.1 Type-C supported thunderbolt (easy to get confused).

    Certainly they will make a version that will support eGPUs. Maybe the 2nd gen of this laptop will be worth it.. with a 120Hz screen and a better design ;).

    I checked the EVGA site and they seem to offer good service. Haven't really bought any of their products but they seem to have service centres in Europe and they offer good warranties for their existing products! This is quite important as such a laptop can simply not be bought without support.

    HP in Germany / UK offered warranty for 2-3 years. If EVGA can do this then I will keep a sharp eye on the development of the SC17.
     
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    http://www.thinkcomputers.org/hands-on-with-evgas-first-gaming-laptop-the-sc-17/

    http://unlocked.newegg.com/evga-sc-17-is-the-new-sith-lord-of-gaming-laptops/

    "EVGA, makers of some of the most insane motherboards and graphics cards, is jumping into the bloody waters of gaming laptops. And, like every EVGA product, “entry level” is a dirty word. The SC-17 is premium all the way.

    What sets their new 17” laptop apart? Aluminum unibody construction. Where most of the competition goes with plastic for the chassis, EVGA is going full metal. And the results are impressive. In hand, it feels like Darth Macbook Pro, extremely well built, extremely impressive. And, of course, extremely expensive.

    Price is said to start at $2600. That should include the absolutely top of the line i7-6820hk as well as an overclocked GTX 980m graphics card, PCIe SSDs, 16GB 2666MHz RAM by G.SKILL and up to 4 hours of battery life. 4 Hours? Yeah, this is a high end mobile battle station, after all.

    The monitor is a 17.3” 4K affair, though no G-Sync at launch, but it may become an option shortly.

    Otherwise, like all EVGA products, this black metal slab is going to make everyone up their game in the build department."
     
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    Well this could be the most powerfull "portable" 17" gaming laptop that will be release this year!
     
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    Then you haven't seen the Eurocom Sky X9....
     
  12. VonCrisp

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    That's not really a laptop.
     
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    any news on this??
     
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    Nice looking laptop.

    Interestingly this new video shows the unit with a matte display:

     
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    According to the video above, release will be Q2 or late Q1.
     
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    If anybody is still interested or have not seen this yet, then...

    http://hexus.net/tech/news/laptop/91667-evga-sc17-gaming-laptop-pre-orders-open-ships-april/

    US$2700... that's a lot... but we're talking about 32 GB of good RAM, a decent NVMe SSD, 4K 17" screen from Sharp (that's a fair contribution to the cost), 8 GB 980m, i6820HK, and a really slim waistline. A laptop of similar size and specs (e.g. Eurocom Sky MX7/Clevo P670) would still be of a similar cost once fully decked out. It'd be more a question of having G-Sync (and a lower cost) v.s. a 4K screen (but not G-Sync).

    Hadriel
     
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    P670RG? 17", 6820HK, 980M? The specs of that EVGA are nothing new... what we're looking for is good BIOS and overclockability. And if they somehow succeed well, then if they'd do it with a desktop CPU.

    I love Clevo, but competition is needed, and I don't consider there to be any real competition for any of their product lines, going on specs and cooling and reliability. ASUS might have something, but their terrible RMA hell and their high tendency to give you a broken out-the-gate machine and their generally lower-quality midranged machines means that even if their specs are equivalent on pre-build models on sale on Amazon or newegg that compete with P6xxRE3 models etc, they're still not really that great a choice to buy. MSI's line is generally overpriced in most places one can purchase them since their GT72 launched. Alienware might as well not really exist anymore in terms of reliability and overclockability; still lots of people getting issues where in games their machine will kill their turbo boost and throttle.

    If EVGA wants to bring the thunder, let them. Otherwise they'll be a dime a dozen~
     
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    Only 2x USB 3 ports seems a bit of an error.

    Looks like the whole screen including bezel is matte and uses a Sharp 17" 4K panel - have we seen that panel in any other laptop yet?
     
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    PCPer has reviewed the EVGA SC17.

    An interesting tidbit: the laptop says it is manufactured by GETAC (known for its rugged computer line) in China, rather than one of the laptop ODMs we usually hear about.

    The heatpipe layout looks a bit like its been revised more than once to add more pipes, to spread the heat load from the 980m, so it will be interesting to see how well manages heat and avoids overheating the case, avoids throttling, and/or keeps quieter, than its competitors.
     
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    He agreed with me on the USB ports.

    Also why have space for a second M.2 but not include the connector on the motherboard.
     
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    Nice looking laptop and like the unlocked BIOS/UEFI. If they could unlock the vBIOS for more than 135MHz extra and add some overvolting, that would be ideal. Hope cooling is good with it, has some hefty heat pipes, venting holes look a bit light, however. All metal chassis is nice too. Fairly easy accessibility to components is always welcome, and glad to see you can repaste without much hassle it looks like.

    But 4k, blech. No full size arrow keys, blech. Purposely lacking second m.2 drive, blech, only two RAM slots, blech.

    I'd like to see how this really performs once released. Maybe I'll see if I can get ahold of a sample.
     
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    The unlocked UEFI, and quick CMOS clear button are the most interesting parts of this laptop for me. It's nice to see EVGA take a step towards making laptops more like a desktop in terms of accessibility. Hopefully users can also create custom fan tables of their own to balance heat/noise to their liking. Personally noise bothers me less so I would create a more aggressive cooling profile. Having these options could really set this laptop apart from the others and somewhat help justify the price tag. If this laptop catches on and is successful, it could possibly force other gaming laptop manufacturers to offer the same options that enthusiast demand.

    I'd also like to know if the GPU is locked down to +135mhz on the core as per the norm with overclocking software, or if they've also somehow unlocked this for the user.
     
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    The GPU is soldered in confirmed.
     
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    That missing M.2 can't have been their intention. Perhaps their choice for the 16-lane HM170 was a bit too close a call and they're now sorely regretting not opting for the 20-lane Z170 (like the P870DMx uses).

    Ah, just checking the original announcement;
    Doh :vbbiggrin: !!!
     
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    I don't see these selling very well at that price and I think they should have held off for new gpu and get the second m.2 on board, there is room there for it and then release it.
     
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    Yeah, it does seem a bit pricey when compared to a comparably equipped Clevo (P670RG) costs under $2000. You don't get the unlocked BIOS but we have Prema for that :), and it doesn't have the metal chassis, although it does have 1080p matte G-sync LCD (some people prefer this) and 4 slots of DDR4 RAM. So is this really worth $600-$700 more than the Clevo to you?
     
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    I believe the memory is 32GB; http://www.evga.com/articles/00982/evga-sc17-laptop/
     
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    It´s not the laptop but the battery.
     
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    I noticed that they're using the Samsung SM951 as the M.2 SSD. Compared to the 950 Pro... well... not too far off and is quite a bit cheaper.

    Hadriel
     
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    That is all very true, I guess they're banking on the fact that EVGA is such a known brand, and the aluminum chassis (compared to plastic on asus and other big manufacturers).

    I know that people who are not super well versed in the laptop world may not know what Clevo is, and are familiar with MSI asus and even Razer products, despite razer being a piece of ****, they are still selling laptops, so obviously they have some kind of clientele.

    However if this evga was priced cheaper, it would be worth looking into, maybe a few hundred instead of half a thousand+
     
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    Hey, whys razer so bad? Genuinely curious, thinking of buying the razer 14 2016
     
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    I love how the EVGA looks and the specs are nice but too late on the market. The Pascal GPU's are coming very soon. Who would pay aorudn 3000bucks for a laptop that becomes outdated fairly quickly....

    Poor thermals hurts the longevity of the product. Fairly unreliable because of that and the batteries die out very quickly because of the heat.

    This would be less of an issue if it wasnt for the fact that it is almost impossible to get spareparts for these laptops.
     
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    When it will release for Europe ?
     
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    You have to go in with the right expectations - I like my Razer a lot, but I sure understand I will use it for 2 years at best, then sell it or donate it or give it to my kids. And if it dies, well warranty :) Not an upgrade machine, unlike my Sager/Clevo ...
     
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    i like the idea of real UEFI in laptop.
     
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    I got mine's delivered earlier today, it's so beautiful. I didn't get to do much since I had to work tonight, only installed Fallout 4. I need to figure out how to transfer my other games from my PC to the laptop without doing full installs and updates of every single game.
     
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    Review from Linus

     
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    @Mr. Fox @Papusan

    yeah just saw it, doesn't make me wanna buy it due to the limited RAM slows (only 2) and only one 2.5" drive bay, in addition to BGA components at a price identical to the Clevo P870DM


    They keyboard lay out seems better than the Clevo crappy 15 inch keyboards they slap on all their laptops though.
     
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    This machine is just another botched project. The idea was good, but the result was a big failure... A big joke. It does not help with a good keyboard and a slightly better bios than most other brand, when EVGA destroy this machine completely with soldered hardware. + Less hardware in a big body. Aka a new TurdBook.
     
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    Aluminum chassis is really nice. Too bad they lost sight of what's on the inside. Having a nice chassis with compromised specs is like a diamond-studded gold ring in the snout of a pig or a beautiful woman with incurable STDs.

    I think the OEMs must believe we are all stupid. And, it probably doesn't help that so many of us actually are. They continue producing trashbooks with BGA feces and hope enthusiasts will either not notice or forgive their insolence as being an acceptable trade-off for a great chassis or fancy gimmicks like mechanical keyboards and a nicer-looking BIOS UI. They need to focus on killer core components and hardcore overclocker-grade cooling systems that can support the big boys, and just knock it off with the crippled BGA feces. If all they care about is suckering the kiddies, budget-strapped gamer-boys and people easily distracted by shiny objects, I will continue to ignore the pathetic garbage they sell.

    Stop and think about what these imbeciles did here. They burned a ton of calories on a nice BIOS and welded a panty-waist CPU to the motherboard. Any points they might have scored are forfeited on a half-assed BGA design and a mainstream consumer CPU. Clearly, they are not dealing with a full deck of cards.
     
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    I think it's a little harsh to judge this notebook mainly on the fact it has mobile/soldered hardware. All the reviews I read indicate it's well-rounded and includes unique features. It competes with the Clevo P870DM-based notebooks on price/performance only. Otherwise this notebook isn't all that comparable, especially when looking at the weight and battery life. The perceived value goes beyond sheer performance.

    Charles
     
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    The problem is bro, this won't change? You know why? Because companies like ASUS, Alienware, and now EVGA are making BGA Gaming Notebooks and people probably don't even know what is Clevo or that it has desktop socketed components that can easily be replaced or upgraded. This, we will always be at the mercy of Clevo for a long while.

    your average joe only cares about "hey it has a 980M, lights, nice keyboard, here is my moneh" :rolleyes:

    On EVGA's defense, I really like that they are entering the laptop market and if they release a machine with 4 RAM slots, non-BGA components, I would jump on it like a hawk.

    Why? Again, the keyboard, the Clevo keyboard is spoiling my experience big time with this laptop

    What I'm not happy about now is though, how limited we are in terms of options when it comes to high end non-BGA machines. Gone are Alienware and MSI seems to be somewhere in between BGA and non-BGA and some power draw limitations.....we are left with Clevo only...what has the world come to...
     
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    If Evga will release a socket machine, you can forget a fully unlocked bios that @Prema can make for Clevo machines. What happiness will you get with socket hardware if firmvare is crippled?
     
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    well we can't prejudge like this. They say they have a nice UEFI BIOS only owners of this laptop can tell us what options it has.

    But let them release a socketed laptop first, then we worry about the BIOS :D
     
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    I don't buy this statement :D Because they will probably have everything locked for modifying. They will use a half locked bios and you will be very angry for this. Don't forget Dell's love for Secure boot. Uefi bios is made for this Crap ;)
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Yeah, it's probably a good Notebook for what it was designed for.
    It's more comparable to Clevo's P6xxRx line (Portable Notebook CPU/GPU).
    Clevo's P7/8xxDM series (Heavier Desktop GPU/CPU/SLI) are sadly in a league of their own.
    We don't even see many MXM designs these days apart from MSI/CLEVO...
    Maybe interesting to see how much power the EVGA can deliver and cool once unleashed...
     
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