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    GeForce Go 7600 GT and Bluetooth v2.0 + EDR in HEL80's future?

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by dentoid88, Oct 30, 2006.

  1. dentoid88

    dentoid88 Newbie

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    Hello Everyone,

    I have been following this forum for some time now and am nearly ready to purchase the HEL80 as my first notebook (likely from powernotebooks.com). However, there are two questions I have that could help seal the deal.

    First, what are the chances the HEL80 will be outfitted with an NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 GT? With the posts about the underclocked Go 7600, it would be nice to squeeze out a bit more performance with the GT upgrade. This would trump even a 7700 upgrade I caught rumor of. :D

    Second, is the Bluetooth option v2.0 + EDR? If not, will this option be available?

    Thanks for any info you might have.
     
  2. mythless

    mythless King of Pies

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    Probably the chances for a 7600GT is slim to none. The Go7700 is more probable. Yes its BT v2.0 or it should be, can't remember, too late of the night.
     
  3. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    IF the form factor could handle the 7600 gt

    the 7700 would BE a 7600 gt. It is actually made in a smaller nm process than the 7600 gt, and actually is the same gpu, same pipelines same everything except it uses ddr2 and a lower clock speed.

    Meaning, it IS a 7600 gt, it just has to be slower. Thats all it is. And its even cooler still. the 7600 gt notebook card uses the same form factor as like the 7900 gs, so its purpose escapes me. Its too hot for a hgl 30
     
  4. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    Yes, the Bluetooth is 2.0+EDR

    No, there is no video card upgrade to GT or 7700 anywhere in the near future for the HEL80. That is pure rumor, and it is false.
     
  5. Dtech

    Dtech Newbie

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    Thanks for clearing that up for us Paladin! :)
     
  6. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    That was actually a ponderance of mine... does the 7600 use an MXM connector, or anything standard like that? I haven't taken my laptop apart to shore up the keyboard yet, so I don't know ;)
     
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    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    Virtually no one uses MXM anymore. It turned out to be a technical dud.

    The problem was that with each new generation video card the power and cooling requirements increased, so while you could physically switch out the MXM cards just like memory, the system requirements for cooling were increased beyond what was originally designed...so, without a new cooling system as well the new generation cards would not work properly within the system.

    Now, since the MXM was more expensive to build, and there was no true advantage to it...that is the idea was great on paper but did not really work as imagined...almost all laptop manufacturers have abandoned it.

    The HEL80/HGL30 are no exceptions. The video card is a modular PCI-e card that can theoretically be changed, the power and cooling issues still remain.

    This is why video card upgradability in laptops still remains mostly a dream.
     
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    You won't find the video card near the keyboard, but if you look at the Picture Gallery you will see that it is on the bottom between the memory and the CPU. While the CPU, memory, TV Tuner, Bluetooth, hard drive and wireless card are all quite easy to get to and replace, to get to the video card will require the removal of the entire lower case (D face).
     
  9. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Gotcha. I wasn't wondering so much about a major upgrade to like, a 7900GTX or whatnot, but a "best in class" upgrade wouldn't be a bad thing, like stated above, a 7600GT or a 7700, perhaps even just a 7600 with full-clocked memory.
     
  10. dentoid88

    dentoid88 Newbie

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    Thanks for all the information. That is good news on the Bluetooth front.

    That is slightly disappointing about the graphics card. Since HEL80 owners seem to agree the notebook runs cool, you would think the HEL80 could handle a "best in class" upgrade, especially since the smaller HGL30 uses the same card. I was happy with my desktop GT upgrade in the GeForce 6 series, but I guess you shouldn't push a notebook's cooling design.
     
  11. chrisyano

    chrisyano Hall Monitor NBR Reviewer

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    It's not like the go 7600 in the HEL80 is worthless. You can get some serious gaming out of it at stock settings. If the GPU in the HEL80 doesn't cut it for you, you are fortunate to have the Asus S96J as an option. I highly doubt you'd be able to tell the difference in real-life gaming experience between the two though. But you could be comforted with the higher numbers. Otherwise you could get the Asus A8Js or go up to 17". You have choices :).
     
  12. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    True. I really enjoy the performance of my HGL-30. It'll run all the games I've played on it at high settings. But I'm always a fan of more ;)
     
  13. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    Im extremely interested in a photgraph of the hgl 30 gpu board.

    not the hel 80. unless its the same one.

    the a8jm a8js use mxm TYPE of card, its asus only its a mirror image of the format called mxm type 2.
    I look at the relative thickness of the hgl 30 and I bet they use an mxm type gpu board. Im definitely wondering whether it is just mxm type 2 ( which is bad) asus mxm type 2 ( which means you could put in the 512 mb 7600 or 7700 as they are asus only)

    I would think an owner like pitabread would want to know. you can buy the asus cards online.
     
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    Compal is not using MXM video cards in either the HEL80 or HGL30.