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    HD 3870 Crossfire vs 9800 GTS SLI

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by onlyone0001, Nov 8, 2008.

  1. onlyone0001

    onlyone0001 Notebook Enthusiast

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    John, what about Far cry 2? I guess we have some friends here with better scores, but according to cnet, M17 gets 30 FPS @ high @ 1280x1024. (Though i think it is too low for Xfire. ATI made some patches and cnet may not have installed those) As i remember, SLI gets much more than that.
     
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    i get 56 frames
    ultra high
    1920x1200
     
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    John seems like Far Cry 2 benefits greatly from a Quad Core CPU. I think I read somewhere that the game utilized all four cores if you had one. Very nice score indeed.

    I think it´s pretty amazing that notebooks can output that kind of framerates. Every single time I post in another forum, Sweclockers with benchmarks and such they are just. "Is that on a laptop" "That one must be heavy as a brick" and so on. But better up is when I beat many of those desktop scores they have :)

    I think I will show them Johns average Far Cry 2 bench and make them drool over the laptops performing like that :)
     
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    ill verify that here in a bit. seems that this 4/2 cores things matters allot and 4 cores are sometimes not better than 2.

    curious...has any one benchmarked these things at 1920x1200 for 3dmark06 yet?
     
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    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    johnksss I can say I had 10000+ at 1920x1200 in 3D Mark 06 with my 8800m GTX SLI. Can you run a bench at that res and see what you get John? Just curios.
     
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    already did run one...*L*

    and it was people like you posting with sli 8800m gtx's that had me second guessing if i should even run 9800m's. the 8800 gtx's have been around for a minute and still rank up with the 9800m gt's and gtx's. and i don't think anyone has even beat your vantage score yet..im not included at the moment...lol
     
    Johnksss, Nov 12, 2008
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  7. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Also John, note he has an older generation T7700 (2.4Ghz). With an X9000, I don`t think any system could stand a chance easily...
     
    eleron911, Nov 12, 2008
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    exactly why i used him as an example....
     
    Johnksss, Nov 12, 2008
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  9. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Hell, I have a T8300, same CPU and basically same system,just probably faster HDDs.
    I could give vantage a go also :p

    Never ran it before.
     
    eleron911, Nov 12, 2008
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    Scratch that, I have XP so it ain`t going to happen any time soon.
    XP just runs games too beautifully :p
     
    eleron911, Nov 12, 2008
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    yes, please do! because yours was one of the other systems that i also played close attention to over the past few months.

    is there a dx10 hack for windows xp?
    and what did you get for 3dmark06 under windows xp?
     
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    10672 with stock clocks, 10500 with OCed clocks to 620/1550/920 LOL. OCing decreases performance.(I know , right?) Stupid 3dmark06 and CPU dependancy.
    I`ll try 1920x1200 right now with both stock and OCed.
    I`ll install Vista this weekend and see what I get on Vantage.
    My system is running beautifully,I didn`t get a chance to compare it vs a GTX280 yet,since I don`t know anyone with one, but I`m betting I`d be close...
     
    eleron911, Nov 12, 2008
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    well now...im running one gtx280/q9650 setup so let me know how you want me to run it.

    i tried to explain that sometimes to much over clock is not always the best thing...

    vista sounds good. besides...you need to get a bit more friendly with vista..*LOL*
     
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    John I think you will definitely beat my Vantage score since I have to rerun it. That score is with PhysX enabled. I have to disable PhysX and run it again. Will post that Vantage score here with PhysX disabled.

    I think I had around 6800-7000 Vantage score with PhysX disabled. I could be wrong. Ran that once for a long time ago.
     
    Magnus72, Nov 12, 2008
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    Ok, again, 3dmark06 is flawed.
    First results are without OCing, second, with 620/1500/920. I simply don`t understand how higher clocks output worse results.
    XP 32 bit, SP3, 3.2 Gb Ram, 178.46 driver.
    I`ll test 180.42/43 in a bit also.
     

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    3dmark vantage
    12,708 with physx - video score = 10,639
    10,875 without physx - video score = 10,648
     
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    Strange eleron I did get with lower clocks 10500 and with overclocks I got 10756 at 1280x1024 3D Mark 06 and XP.

    I have to get an X9000 to unleash hell out of these 8800m GTX SLI, these are just waiting for an CPU to help them out of the small misery :)

    Nah it´s not that bad, they perform like crazy actually.
     
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  18. eleron911

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    Magnus, those scores are at 1920x1200 :)
     
    eleron911, Nov 12, 2008
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    let me run mine real quick in xp as well...
     
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    Allright, yeah my score barely differs between 1280x1024 where my CPU is bottlenecking my SLI compared to 1920x1200 where SLI isn´t that much bottlenecked.

    Hmm more 3870 Crossfire scores please, especially benchmarks in more games.
     
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    rob over at rk computers got 35 fps in far cry 2
     
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    Ha, I get a lot more than that, with the highest settings available :p
     
    eleron911, Nov 12, 2008
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    yeah, i got that with one card and ultra high.

    so this crossfire is throwing me for a loop. i mean they seriously kick butt when it comes to 3dmark06, but seem to be lacking in a lot of games....(speculation of course)

    eleron:
    15,026 @ 3.0 @ 600/900/1500 @ 1920x1200 XP
     
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  24. eleron911

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    Give me your screens, I want to compare GPU scores :)
    Round 1: stock.
    Round 2: 600/1500/900.
    1920x1200.
    That`s where it`s at.

    EDIT : darn, I have the professional version so maybe you don`t.

    So ROUND 1 stock, Round 2 600/1500/900 , 1280x1024.
    Post screens.
     
    eleron911, Nov 12, 2008
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    hummm, image shack seems to be having issues... one moment.

    [​IMG]
     
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  26. eleron911

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    STOCK first and 600/900/1500 second.
    I`m looking at video scores...
     

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    Ok, I don`t know what to make of these scores now.
    I get 4500/5500 at 1280x1024 and 4500/4800 at 1920x1200.

    Seriousely, 3dmark is effin flawed.

    You get way better gpu scores . Hmm.
     
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    nope...not flawed...you just need to reset everything back to factory is all. under the nvidia control panel. click that restore all tab. then set it back to the way you had it. then re run your test. nvidia is like a dsl modem...periodically you have to reset it else it starts getting confused...so to speak..*LOL*
     
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  29. eleron911

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    Allright, did that.
    One more time, 1280x1024, stock clocks.

    EDIT : I give up, the CPU is obviously bottlenecking me hard here.
    I would need you to run the q6600 without the pin mode and 2 cores disabled to make it fair lol.
     

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    im running it as we speak...with 2 cores disabled

    [​IMG]

    and i would shake all them so called fancy drivers...the stock drivers work best for xp when benching.
    i use multiple drivers. i have benching drivers and gaming drivers....sorry, but one size does not fit all...*LOL*
     
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  31. eleron911

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    Uhm, I give up. I guess my system`s drivers are just too dumb to fit the pattern.
    For benchmarking that is.
    In games, I have no issues.

    Gott run, got stuff to do.
     
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    yeah, mine we're doing the same the other day. that's whey i found out that stock worked best for benching...

    aight el, have a good one!


     
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  33. zfactor

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    holy crap 16k+ with only 2 cores??
     
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  34. Magnus72

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    I think we have to take into account the higher FSB John´s runs at and same with the ram that runs at 1066 right? Or is it even 1333 the FSB runs at John?

    Those have impacts too in the score. However an X9000 would be nice to bench at 3.4 GHz with my 8800m GTX SLI.
     
    Magnus72, Nov 12, 2008
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  35. eleron911

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    Indeed it would be.
    But to me, gaming results are what count.
    Benchmarks can be the worst for all I care, if I smooth sail through` them games. :)
     
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  36. Magnus72

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    Yeah I agree, in game benchmarks is what counts and as you said like me I have optimized XP and have very smooth gameplay and high FPS :)
     
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    here is a good one to go up against... it was a stock everything

    [​IMG]
     
    Johnksss, Nov 12, 2008
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    nope...sorry for the miss leading post. this one was using 4 cores or so xp says...
     
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  39. eleron911

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    Done with Crysis Warhead, didn`t seem that fun to me. Dunno why, so what else to benchmark now? :D
     
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    that game seemed way to short! i did it in one day and was like...credits? what do you mean credits!..lol
     
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  41. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Yea. And the cinematics..well. Some of them were dumb.
    And violent. And ..dumb.
     
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    "bump" to the "bump"
    gtx350
    [​IMG]
     
    Johnksss, Nov 28, 2008
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  43. Aeris

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    Wow, a GTX 350... it is a shame that the logo of the site hosting the data covered the values of Vertex Shaders and such... :(
     
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    i was thinking the same thing...could be over clocked.

    but in other news...nvidia will be releasing the gt200 card, which is suppose to take the crown back from ati and the 4870x2. seems nvidia has it's dual gpu card about ready to go.
     
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  45. Aeris

    Aeris Otherworldly

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    The GT200 sounds quite like a monster card, thinking about how the GTX 280 does against the ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2, the GT200 will run over the 4870 X2...
     
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    ATi will probably answer back with the RV790, but surprisingly, the GTX 280 and the 260 are doing better than the Radeons in L4D.
     
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    4870 CF > GTX 280 in desktop forms.

    I've been hearing off and on that nVidia is going to rename the 9xxx series (aka the 8xxx series) to GTX1xx.

    The desktop Die of a GTX280 is HUUUUUUUUUUGE. I'd love to know how in gods name they'll pull that off in a notebook

    http://en.expreview.com/img/2008/05/21/GT200-core_1.jpg
     
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    i know my 4870's in cf in my desktop rock i would not swap them out
     
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    Hmm two GT200 in SLI, yeah rock on!! Definitely my next buy though a single one is enough for me. Still running at a measly 1440x900 res ;)
     
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