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    How about a PowerPro J 10:15 (Compal IFL90) with WXGA+ (1440x900) Resolution...Vote for your favorite resolution on a 15.4" laptop

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by Donald@Paladin44, Jun 20, 2007.

  1. Donald@Paladin44

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    Over the last year we have been getting a lot of requests for WXGA+ (1440x900) resolution on our 15.4" laptops...so we are considering offering the PowerPro J 10:15 (Compal IFL90) with this resolution and using the nVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT w/512MB.

    So please vote for your favorite resolution.
     
  2. Xonar

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    Mine has always been WXGA+ its just perfect, espicially matched with a 8600GT ? ;)

    I find text a little uneasy to read (at least for me i dont have near 20/20 vision) on WSXGA+

    WXGA is nice too, but pumpin in those extra pixels makes it look a lot nicer for me, thats my take.
     
  3. maditude

    maditude Notebook Evangelist

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    I would've DEFINITELY chosen 1440x900 if it'd been a choice when I placed my order.
     
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    Would you want to change your order to the 1440x900 even if you had to wait another couple of weeks to get it?
     
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    I thought hard about waiting for the 14.1" at this resolution once I found you were going to carry it, but I really need my notebook before I think you could get it. If it had been available when I did my pre-order I think its what I would have gotten.

    I think I'll love the WSXGA+ on the 15.4
     
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    I voted for WSXGA+ 1680x1050. My Compal HEL-80 has that resolution and I love the screen. Really great quality. Im in my early twenties and my eye sight is really good and I also do use Microsoft's Cleartype. Cleartype does help a lot. I would recommend it to anyone.
    Text might be a little small but I have no problems at all when reading on my laptop.

    I will be ordering a Compal IFL90 in the end of August and I will order it with 1680x1050 :)
     
  7. chrisyano

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    I like WSXGA+ on a 15.4" screen. WXGA+ might be really nice too. I'd probably try that were I in the market right now and it were available.

    So...what do I win? ;)
     
  8. maditude

    maditude Notebook Evangelist

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    > Would you want to change your order to the 1440x900 even if you had to wait
    > another couple of weeks to get it?

    Depends on a couple of things, sent you an email...
     
  9. barspi

    barspi Notebook Consultant

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    better yet, how about WXGA+ in the IFT00, or whatever the 14.1" version is called? :)
     
  10. pgatz11

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    I use 1152x864 on a 17" right now.

    Considering the IFT00, wouldn't WXGA/1200x800 already be the most like what I'm using now?
     
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    That would be nice but a 8600m( GS or GT) in the IFT00 would be better :D

    BTW, i voted for the WSXGA because i would like more real estate to work with even if i might have to raise the Text DPI or get magnifing glasses ;)
     
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    Short answer...yes.

    However we are talking about resolutions on 15.4" screens here :)
     
  13. ohmide

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    1440x900 all the way.
     
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    I voted 1680x1050 since that is what I have currently and I enjoy it, but I've never used a 1440x900, and since I game alot that might actually be just a smidgen better for running games at native resolution.

    I'd probably order the lower resolution knowing I could return the notebook if I've grown to attached to my current though.
     
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    I voted for the 1440x900.
    I'd much prefer a matte screen, however.

    I just purchased a PowerPro L 8:15 a few weeks ago. I got one of the last 1680x1050 matte LCD's. It's a great screen. But I would have purchased a 1440x900 matte screen without hesitation, if it had been available.

    During my pre-purchase research, I had seen a MacBook Pro with 1440x900 matte. It was just about perfect. But I didn't want a Mac.

    Unaltered, the 1680x1050 text is often too small. I've made a bunch of changes within Vista and with browser add-ons. Overall, I'm happy with the result now. But it has not been as simple as just increasing the DPI. (If it would be useful to others, perhaps I'll write up a summary of my discoveries and the changes I made.)

    In essence, I've simulated a 1440x900 look while staying in native resolution mode.
     
  16. odin243

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    For me it all depends on the graphics card. I game on all my computers, so if I had a 15.4" with a 8600mGT, I would consider WSXGA+ resolution, but previously with a Go7700/Go7600, WXGA+ was best. I dislike running games lower than native if I don't have to.
     
  17. Bona Fide

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    I definitely think you should offer the IFL90 with a 1440x900 screen. In my opinion, that's the sweet spot for 14/15" screens.
     
  18. StoCom

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    can you run games on a 1440x900 screen at 1280x1024?
     
  19. odin243

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    No, because you don't physically have that many pixels across. You can probably run at 1280x800 though, or any smaller resolution.
     
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    Any chance I could get a 1440x900 screen for my HGL30? ;) I'd love to have that... a little higher res so it's more usable, but still as portable and powerful...

    Er... I think you meant vertically ;) But the point still stands, no, you couldn't run a game at that res. Well, you might, and let your display driver scale it for you, but it'd look pretty cruddy.
     
  21. FrostFire

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    wow cool, I just went on powernotebooks.com again to look at this notebook and I found a new option! 1440x900!
    Now I have one more option to think about...lol
     
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    Donald: It's great you offer more options! :)
    Just a correction, on the page where you list all the models, it says "1440x1050" (instead of 900)
     
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    Thanks for the heads up barspi...it is now corrected :eek:
     
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    So would this still be a glossy screen or a matte screen. Cuz I would definetly be interested in a 1440x900 matte screen.
     
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    The 1440x900 will be a glossy screen...only the 1680x1050 screens are coming in as Matte.
     
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    Which battery will be standard for the WXGA+?
     
  27. odin243

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    The 6 cell. Though the 9 cell should work, right?
     
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    Right...it comes with a 6 cell and you can also buy a spare 9 cell.
     
  29. Bona Fide

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    Oh, the WXGA+ only comes with a 6-cell? Might as well step up to the WSXGA then.
     
  30. FrostFire

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    oh, now I have to decide between the Sager NP2090 SUPRA, and teh Compal IFL90.
    The Sager is cheaper, but the Compal has an added warrenty...I think Im going with the Sager... From powernotebooks.com of course. ;)
     
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    :confused: I don't understand the relationship. It would seem that you would select your resolution based on your preference there, but how does the size of the battery affect the resolution decision? :confused:
     
  32. CMSUDave

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    I think because if he wanted the 9 cell still, it would be an additional battery and not the standard? So it would cost extra maybe
     
  33. Liquid Steel

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    I ordered mine tonight :)

    I was very excited when I saw the WXGA+ option available, but the main reason I was considering it was the gaming aspect (lower res, more eye-candy on next-gen games), which I realized is null for me, as I will only be gaming from my desk, and on an external 20in monitor (1680x1050) that scales down just fine for me. WSXGA it is ;)

    More options are always a plus, though, and I know a lot of people will be happy with the choice.
     
  34. imachine

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    I'm currently using 1280x800, and it's really good, can't say I need much more, but the 1440x900 would be a perfect option!

    Great to see such possibilities, sorry you don't send out to Europe tho :)

    Maybe some other resellers will get their merchandise sorted too seeing how big a progress you've made doing your offers :)

    Cheers,

    //m.
     
  35. Bona Fide

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    Ideally, I'd want the WXGA+ resolution if nothing else was a factor. But I think that since you only get the 6-cell battery with the WXGA+ screen, it's worth it to step up to a higher resolution to get that upgraded battery. Beyond that, I can also decrease the WSXGA resolution down to 1440x900 if I want.
     
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    i dont understand how everyone wants a 9 cell battery taht sticks out the back of the laptop an inch [3/4"] Id much rather flush even though the 9 cell gives much more battery life... Hopefully like Donald has informed me, after the release there will be 6 cell batteries avalible with the WSXGA+ lcd.
     
  37. imachine

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    That's sorta stupid that way, if I was you guys (pnotebooks) I'd do my best to give my customers the ability to buy the smaller resolutions with bigger batteries right away, with a few extra $, unless it's just the way compal ships you hardware and you don't have much to do about it. The gain is minimalistic for you it seems, and having two batteries is not the good way to go since even if unused, their quality deteriorates with time.

    I for one would not want the WSXGA since that would make lot's of things a bit too unreadable, it's a good solution for a 17" but not for 15" - WXGA+ seems the perfect way to go.

    I can understand how a WSXGA needs more juice, and dealing with customers complaining later on low battery life (sigh, should've though about it when you chose the 6-cell and a grande screen, eh?), but for smaller screens, it's mostly a matter of preference and as such, should be avail.

    Regards,

    //m.
     
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    We don't make the battery choice, that is made by Compal.

    They figure WSXGA+ is the "high end" so they but the 9 cell battery with that one only.

    I can assure you that most people could care less about the 9 cell sticking out 3/4" because they never see it when they are using the laptop, and they are more interested in getting another 1 to 1.5 hours battery life.
     
  39. pyro9219

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    I've owned a few machines in the past that had the battery sticking out the back (Compal M300 anyone?) and I've kinda grown attached to the look. Plus, it gives me a place to grab where I'm not putting pressure on my screen.
     
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    I love 1680x1050 at 15.4 inches. Spacious enough to work in, but large enough that it's easy on the eyes.

    I would love to have 1440x900 in a 14" or 13" though.
     
  41. teknerd122

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    WXGA+ in a 14", WUXGA in a 15.4"
     
  42. FrostFire

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    What???? A higher res screen would allow more eye candy on next gen games, a lower res will "blur" [slightly] the detail and "eye candy" amount.
    Correct? As for me Im getting the wsxga
     
  43. Mippoose

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    I think he means more eye candy as the WXGA+ would be easier for the G-card to pump out, and allow other options to be used.

    I think I would rather the new option, but it really matters not to me.

    I like the 9-cell battery and matte screen.

    Plus.. A laptop like this isn't gonna run super next gen games with ALL the eye candy in the world.. At least not for a long time.

    So in the long run a matte + 9 cell + WSXGA+ is the best choice for me!
     
  44. Liquid Steel

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    It was more of a 'down the road' statement. Next (or beyond that) generation games won't run as smooth on higher resolutions, so buying a WXGA screen would allow for more details (high quality, AA, AF, etc) for a longer period of time than if a higher resolution screen were used. Of course this is based on the assumption that I would be stubborn and refuse to lower the resolution to attain playable framerates.

    Example: 1440x900 with all high settings, and AA vs. 1680x1050 with medium-high and no AA

    A choice between pixel density and actual graphical 'goods'


    I went with the 1680x1050 as I will be gaming on an external monitor, so it really didn't matter what res I bought, because it will be at high-res (or scaled down) anyways.
     
  45. FrostFire

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    oh I see what you mean, but then again you can just lower the res on the wsxga, but then it wouldnt be running native... w/e
    I too will buy the wsxga.
     
  46. Mippoose

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    Im not gonna lie, I honestly would rather have the resolution of a game higher than the AA higher.

    I personally notice that many games lose the "stair edge" effects when the resolution is up, but doesn't change drastically with AA.

    Higher res usually makes most games look better to me than a low res with alot of the goodies up.

    Only thing pending being HDR.

    I noticed this alot in games such as Oblivion, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, and games of the sort.

    And if I had to lower the screen res for a game, id just go down to 1024x768, usually either max or low for me.

    Although, I do agree with you entirely that you would be able to use the native resolution and maxed out goodies longer than someone with WSXGA+ just because of the lesser pixels to pump.
     
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    What I'm worried about, is on next-gen games you might have to lower the details AND the rez on a WSXGA+ screen, whereas on the WXGA+ you could just turn the AA off and the filtering down. I think the WXGA+ is a good compromise, especially as I've been used to XGA for a while now.
     
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    The whole thing is sort of moot for me, as I'm going with the matte screen. I'll be doing gaming, but if it ever can't handle it I'll just drop the resolution down. I've tried a few glossy laptops the past few days and they hurt my eyes.

    WSXGA+ it is!
     
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    I would rather have a WXGA+ with a matte screen, but I'll default down to a glossy if need be.
     
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    WXGA+ (1440x900)

    WXGA is too large and WSXGA+ (what I'm running right now) is too small. WXGA+ is a perfect inbetween. I'd just at WXGA+ if Lenovo offered it but they don't so oh well. WSXGA+ it will be for me.
     
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