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    How thick should the silver be?

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by FNAKFHE, Jun 20, 2009.

  1. FNAKFHE

    FNAKFHE Notebook Consultant

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    EDIT: COPPER!! I MEAN COPPER!! SILVER WILL OXIDIZE AND MESS MY STUFF UP.


    Hello all.

    I have been reading all post about this OCZ laptop,

    It keeps stuttering.

    From what i have been reading, we need to use a shim under the chip beside the CPU.

    This shim will allow the heatsink to fully contact in an even patch on the NB chip. (cuz the quad core is taller/thicker and lifts the heat sink too high off the chip beside it aka: northbridge?)

    So, the question now is:

    HOW THICK SHOULD THE SILVER SHIM BE??

    I need to order this silver so i need the size. please help.

    Only thckness is needed as i will cut it to fit on the chip.

    Thank you.
     
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    DON'T use silver. use copper instead. also read the copper vs silver thing.
    4milimeters worked for me.
     
  3. FNAKFHE

    FNAKFHE Notebook Consultant

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    I would like to thank you for your reply.

    I will read it, but i have seen that silver does have faster heat transfer,

    and that is what we want to do, we need to transfer the heat to the heatsink for cooling.

    Please advise.
     
  4. FNAKFHE

    FNAKFHE Notebook Consultant

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    I just did a quick search, i could not find that post your talking about.

    May you please link me ?
     
  5. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    it's in project freeze when mr moo or halo god brought it up. it's pages 2-10 lol.
     
  6. FNAKFHE

    FNAKFHE Notebook Consultant

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    Are you sure?

    Username HaloGod2007 said he is useing .05 mm, he said this in project freez on page 4, post number 32.


    This is bad, two diffrent size thickness and its working for both of you ???
     
  7. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    i used both .05 and .06 and both worked fine. im still waiting for a stinking price from this guy ill call him again today he doesnt seem to like to call anyone back..remember you are also adding paste on both sides this will almost negate a .01 mm difference so it didnt make a whole lot of difference i personally think .05 worked the best.
     
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    FNAKFHE Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you kindly for clearing this up for me, i was just about to PM you directly.

    I see on one of your post that you said you did a presure test and I wanted to ask you about size/thickness of the plate used , thank you.

    what is this guy selling you ? and can i have one. lol.
     
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    ivar Notebook Deity

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    A problem with using silver is that it is oxidizing, so your heat contact may dangerously deteorate with time. If you would use a very thin layer of Arctic Silver 5 on both sides, it will prevent your silver from oxidizing. You can also use other/cheaper thermal paste but just a very thin and uniform layer of it. Coollaboratory Liquid Metal would be perfect thermal paste here (though I don't know exaactly how it is compatible with silver, it is not compatible with aluminium) but it is not necessary.
     
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    just use a premium non electrical conductive one. artic silver is conductive and there's better and cheapper on the market. coollaboratory is very hard to apply on a notebook imo.
     
  11. FNAKFHE

    FNAKFHE Notebook Consultant

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    I know about the issue with silver and its corrosion factor(s).

    That is why i have changed my mind to copper.

    However even if we did use artic silver compund on the silver shimm it would not fully stop the oxidization. This is due to the DIRECT contact with a forigen metal.

    So, we can not stop, only slow down the oxidization process.

    Copper the safe way and its practical as thats what in my laptop already, lol why silver or gold i was wrong.
     
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    FNAKFHE Notebook Consultant

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    I have burned out a mother board because of artic silver 5, it got on the socket 775 pins and burned it out.

    good think the q6600 cpu was still alive and working fine till today OC at 3.7!

    Do you say to use a Non electric conductive one so we dont burn out our components like i did when i was trying to clean things up ??
     
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    yes. it's fool proof. you can split and everything and no problem. and the thermal conductivity is better then artic silver. I didn't want to make publicity but I use mx-2 but there are many other ones with similar or better performance and 0 conductivity.
    artic silver was the best for many years and it's very famous and it's still very good but now there's better and cheaper and without electrical conductivity.
    just saying it's better to to play it safe...