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    Idle temperatures on HEL80

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by boutros, Nov 16, 2006.

  1. boutros

    boutros Notebook Enthusiast

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    What's your idle temperature on CPU, GPU and HD?
    And during heavy load (gaming or so?)
    Don't forget to post your specs as well, plz ...

    I'm using Everest myself to check them, will do the test again tonight, but I find it handy to check other people's results as well. (Just to make sure that my temperatures are fine, and I'm not dreaming about this wonderfull notebook :cool: )
     
  2. boutros

    boutros Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, sorry after a very busy period at work, I'm back to post the temperatures ...

    On this moment (+- 4 hours normal use: mediaplayer, firefox and azureus ) my temperatures are:

    HD: 43°C
    GPU: 54°C
    CPU1 Core1: 45°C
    CPU1 Core2: 48°C

    Are these good temperatures?
    Starting from what temperatures do I have to start worrying?

    This is my first laptop so I want to compare to other HEL80 users ...

    What temperatures do you guys get while gaming?

    thanks in advance :)


    I'm working on a T7200 cpu ...
     
  3. chrisyano

    chrisyano Hall Monitor NBR Reviewer

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    Those are good temperatures. I think I normally run higher than that.
     
  4. alphagamma

    alphagamma Notebook Consultant

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    I have to add that I was working in a rather cold room. So that has an influence as well of course ...
     
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    I dont post temp readings for the most part for this same reason... I keep my apartment about 60F. :D
     
  7. boutros

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    Another question...

    What are more or less the max temperatures you can have?

    For example which temperature can the GPU and CPU get without getting any trouble?
     
  8. pyro9219

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    GPU should show you the max temp it's considered safe if you dig around the nvidia control panel. Mine shows 125C.

    As for the proc, I can't remember the last system I owned that went over about 65C at full gaming glory... If I remember right though, you are good to about 80C on most processors. Then from their its starts topping out depending on the family the chip is from.
     
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    The Core 2 Duo will turn itself off at about 104C, unless you are using a utility like NHC that tends to turn it off around 95C.

    So, quit worrying about temperatures and enjoy :D
     
  10. alphagamma

    alphagamma Notebook Consultant

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    I stopped worrying about it but when I tried Intel TAT for first time, 97C looked very much to me and I was shocked it could reach such temperatures.

    So the question still is are those temperatures normal and can they harm the CPU?

    Funny thing is that it never reaches those temperatures when for example running 4 instances of x264 with 2 threads, then it never goes beyond 66C or something.
    So there still seems to be a lot of potential in the C2D CPU that is not being used. Or are the last 5% of potential covering up 30C difference between the ultimate load of Intel TAT and the x264?
     
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    I am not sure how many different ways to say it. Please understand that YOU don't have to worry about your temperatures...your equipment has built in protected devices that will turn themselves off if they get too hot.

    So, quit worrying about temperatures and enjoy :D
     
  12. alphagamma

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    This brings me to my next question :D. Is it possible to turn these protection devices off with software? Not that I want to of course, but can for example viruses take advantage, or can badly programmed CPU control programs change it?
     
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    Now, as for relating performance "potential" to heat not achieved is a concept that I have never before seen entertained.

    Please keep in mind that the performance of your CPU is similar to an accelerator in your vehicle. As an application requires performance it pulls it from the CPU, but only as much as it needs...so the goal is not to operate your CPU at its maximum temperature, and you are not wasting "potential" when the CPU is not operating at its maximum temperature prior to shutdown.

    I hope this helps your understanding... :)
     
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    NO, nor would you want to for any reason.

    No, viruses or poorly programmed programs cannot change the hardware shutdown features other than to create their own shutdown prior to the hardware shutdown temperatures. In other words they can turn things off at lower temperatures (as NHC does) but they cannot bypass the shutdown temperature built into the hardware so that it won't shut down when it is supposed to.
     
  15. alphagamma

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    My question is more like, are there any real life applications that can reach the load that Intel TAT application can reach?
     
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    You're worrying yourself over something that you don't need to. I would suggest you take a look at the cooling guide for more information on keeping your system running cooler.
     
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    I seriously have to wonder what your motive is for being so determined to find out about heat turning off your computer when you are talking twice the normal temperature for high activity usage on your notebook. The only way you will get your notebook to shut off is if you disconnect/break the cooling system, or you are possibly outdoors in an Oklahoma Summer (Hottest state because of humidity) , while sitting in direct sun, and playing a game. My money says you move somewhere cooler before the notebook shuts down =P
     
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    That is not an answer to my question, I don't bother about my laptop getting too hot, it doesn't get too hot, I only find it funny why it can reach 97C with Intel TAT and with anything else only 66C.
    Just try Intel TAT out.
    I just like to know as much as possible about my laptop.
     
  19. pyro9219

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    OK, well maybe this will help.. Intel TAT is coming directly out of the cores, while other utilities *may* be using motherboard sensors, or chipset sensors to determine the readings.
     
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    Hmmm.. something is really wrong with my Compal, because nvidia software 83.90 says that my GPU temperature is 68-87c in normal use. Hot isn't it?

    HD: 41°C
    CPU1 Core1: 47°C
    CPU1 Core2: 48°C
     
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    That low end number is a little warm, but I could see it... My GPU is normally in the low 50's while not playing games. The room I'm in is kept around 62F, so keep that in perspective... You high end number is pretty high though. Are you by chance using Vista or Linux with a 3D desktop?
     
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    In the meantime, read through the cooling guide and at the very least check to make sure your fan is clean.
     
  23. arct

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    Pyro9219 nope, windows xp professional 32-bit.

    chisyano
    Actually, my compal is quite new, but thanks anyway.

    So does anyone have a clue how to solve this little heating problem?
     
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    What do you consider normal use?

    Your CPU & HD temps look fine though. Your GPU temps do look a little high--but not alarmingly so.
     
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    What temperature is the room you are in? Are you using your notebook on a flat surface so your not restricting the airflow? (bed, couch = bad idea)
     
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    Hey, stop hijacking my topic will ya :mad:

    Thanks for the answers guys ;) I will start to enjoy my notebook :D

    Started playing Anno 1701 yesterday and it runs smooooooooooooooothly ... :cool:
     
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    This is priceless :D