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    Is there any explanation as to why Zepto uses a bluetooth device using the BlueSoleil software?

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by Frippo, Jul 17, 2007.

  1. Frippo

    Frippo Notebook Consultant

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    I couldnt get my 6324w to connect via gprs through my phone. Really been trying to get motorola phone tools running, but it wont run. Then I learned MPT wont work with Bluesoleil devices and I thought damn thats too bad, but I'll be getting a new mobile in not too long anyway so no big deal...

    Then I asked the guys at their support if they knew what software for other mobiles would work fine with Bluesoleil and I get this reply:

    Blue Soliel does not support DUN, which is required for dial up networking. As far as I know, you won't be able to use any phone as a modem with the Blue Soliel adapter.

    At first I thought it was vista causing issues since it worked fine with my desktop with win2k sp4 and a dlink DBT-120 dongle.

    I cant for the love of god figure out why put a BT device in a laptop if it cant be used to connect to the internet. Makes the device pretty useless imo.
     
  2. Gi1b0

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    To send information and media back and forth from your mobile to your laptop, and to synchronise your office business schedule calender etc.
     
  3. Frippo

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    I found that rather obvious, but I believe the main reason people would want bluetooth is to be able to connect to the internet on the go, in places where a wifi connection isnt available. BlueSoleil limits the use of bluetooth a lot, I also read some file transferring capabilities are limited.

    I was just looking for a reason why go with bluesoleil over widcomm? Must be price related.
     
  4. CLB-NL

    CLB-NL Notebook Deity

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    Why are you using BlueSoleil!?

    I haven't installed anything whatabout Bluetooth and Bluetooth-drivers,
    and it just works fine! I can do anything I want with my Zepto and my
    SonyEricsson W880i and my Qtek S200...
     
  5. Gi1b0

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    If you found it so obvious why ask what other uses for bluetooth are? No one i know uses bluetooth to connect to the internet these days, its slow and rubbish, its not the year 2000 anymore. Get a 3g card if you cant find a wifi hot spot.
     
  6. Frippo

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    I'm not using it anymore, but I was just assuming any software and drivers for bluetooth included with a laptop would be fully functional. At least thats what I thought and had to spend quite a bit of time troubleshooting. I got it all sorted out now with alternative drivers/software.

    I just found it odd and wanted to point it out in case this is something Zepto wasnt aware of.
     
  7. Gi1b0

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    Yeah i was about to say why not just download different software that will do the job?

    What zepto have you got? What spec?
     
  8. Frippo

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    You must have quite a connection with your phone if BT limits you, its max speed is 3mbit isnt it?

    I'm just saying its unnecessary work having to completely uninstall windows drivers and any other BT software you might have installed thinking the software Zepto provided would be fully functional. Not to mention you need to have to have a licensed version of widcomm and I wouldnt wanna pay for 2 BT software when I'm only gonna use one.

    Dont see why specs matters...
    6324w
    built in CSR BT device.

    btw I didnt specifically ask for what you use BT for, I more meant I cant figure out why provide software that wont make your device fully functional. Its like buying a car without engine.
     
  9. Gi1b0

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    What are you asking, i have 24mbit connection at home, is what max speed 3mbit, my internet or bluetooth. I cant see you getting 3mbit from a bluetooth mobile connection.

    Zepto cant cater for everyones specific individual needs, i can guarantee you when i get it im going to have to install software that i use.

    Its like saying theres internet explorer installed already but i use firefox because it has more features, why dont zepto put firefox on there.

    Its not a big deal to install new drivers, takes 10 mins max, including finding and downloading them.

    Chill dude, im just asking out of curiosity, i might get a zepto too.

    Well, no, its not. If your computer came without the cpu that would be an appropriate quote. A more relevant metaphor would be like saying its like buying a car with a cd player that doesnt play mp3s, a minor inconvience.
     
  10. Frippo

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    BT 2.0, I havent tried max transfer speeds, but I sure know I wont be getting 3mbit from my mobile provider whether I use gprs or 3g so BT shouldnt be a limiting factor if working properly.

    Cater for everyones needs? Wake up, as far as I know Widcomm's software supports every feature BlueSoleil does except for A2DP not working properly under vista. (not sure if thats been resolved yet)

    I've installed software I own myself that's in my needs, but I had an option to exclude these softwares from my order, ie I didnt order an OS since I already have a license I dont use, same goes for dvd burning software, office and a bunch of other software.

    I did however pay for my bluetooth device and there was no option to exclude the hardware nor the software, and I want the hardware but obviously not the software. Again its not a big deal as its so little money, but its something Zepto can improve. Dont get me wrong, I'm VERY happy overall with my Zepto, it works really great this far.

    Last time I checked Firefox was still freeware. Is Bluesoleil?

    I'm calm I just didnt feel like wasting time writing my specs if they werent relevant to the topic.

    6324w
    t7300 2.0ghz
    2x1024mb ddr2 pc5300
    8600gt 512mb ddr2
    100gb 7200rpm

    I dont have too much experience with laptops in particular, but I'd really recommend it.

    What does cpu have to do with anything, when doing the comparsion I was relating to the bluetooth device and not the whole laptop.

    EDIT
    I actually made this thread before I had BT all sorted on my lappy and it was not about complaining about minor issues, as I already stated I love Zepto's work. I was actually looking for some help as well as pointing out something that maybe could be improved. And let me tell you, it was not a 10min sollution.
     
  11. Gi1b0

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    I didnt know you had to pay for bluesoleil so i agree with you on that.

    I see you got the white version, you got any detailed pics of it?

    If you dont understand the relationship between what i said compared to your metaphors i cant help you, im guessing 99% of the people reading these posts will understand my point there. If anyone else doesnt, just say. A car engine is equivelant to a cpu if you are comparing parts of cars to computer parts, i would have thought that was pretty obvious.

    Because your bluetooth devide had some software that didnt do one specific thing, is not like a buying a car without an engine, thats just over dramatizing the situation.

    Wouldnt a 3g card work out cheaper for you than using bluetooth to dial up through your mobile. Is your mobile 3g? Ive done no research on this so i not sure, i dont log on to the internet while away.
     
  12. Frippo

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    I'm assuming the cost for bluetooth hardware and software is accounted for in total price even though there is no option when configuring your system, dont really see them tossing it in the package for free.

    Dont have a good cam around to take any pics, its look is really sleek though.

    I do realize my comparsion with a car without engine was quite excessive so to say, but you get my point. Maybe it would be more propriate saying buying a car which engine was leaking compression. I was never good with metaphors and english isnt my native language, but this thread was never about the whole laptop itself, only the bluetooth dongle. I dont see a trailer as a part of a car, just as I dont see a bluetooth dongle as a part of a computer as its not neccessary or by default included in computers.
    I admit it was a bad metaphor to use to compare to a bluetooth dongle, but then again not many would be propriate.

    I'm just going to leave it at that, I didnt come here to argue, and I'm not going to put more time and effort into explaining my choice of words whatever anyone else thinks of them.

    3g would probably work out cheaper and faster but is not an option as my mobile dont support 3g. I will only be using it when I had to have an internet connection as its quite costly with my current plan. Its really not a dealbreaker even if I couldnt have worked it out as I will be using it so rarely.

    I still dont see any advantages with choosing BlueSoleil over Widcomm, I guess nobody else really knows or cares. And I'm guessing the choice of software is price related or Zepto just doesnt have the answer to it.
     
  13. btang07

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    Does 6224w have bluetooth? Sorry to ask this question here
     
  14. fanikatsomo.com

    fanikatsomo.com Notebook Enthusiast

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    yes it has.
     
  15. btang07

    btang07 Notebook Enthusiast

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    thanks for your answer ;)