Nagamaki Benchmark Thread and pictures

OK bud Im not going to argue with you since you know everything. The XTU you can download as a torrent is the desktop version and I know 1000000% for a fact it wont work for you. Go ahead though Ill tell you what get the XTU tuning utility that works for your laptop and Ill buy it off you.

How does $500 sound as a starting bid?

It has to actually work though. I can show you the desktop version download link right form Intel so you dont have to waste your time downloading it from the torrent.


Oh by the way if you could "download it right now" why wouldnt you since it would allow you to easily pass my score.

 

Qaz your a bit behind Im in the race for 17k =)

 

I can post in the public forum. so I didn't said that I won't post in here. but I'll not bother him from his test and I have only talked about the fact that it should be. I don't understand why you had to flame me. It's the arguing between me with hooper and I've cleared in my reps already so you haven't to tell me to do this or that. Are you seriously?

 

But you haven't reached 16K yet.... hehe

Don't destroy your laptop doing this hoop

 

You might be surprised =)

Its still running strong and temps are stil VERY VERY safe =)

 

say hoop, how about one vantage score with your new over clock.

 

Also, how about some temps?
I'm curios to see how they handle the enormous OC...

 

Sorry been busy most of the day had a bunch of request for me to post my score above 16k, here is one:

 

Will get you temps eleron and will get you your Vantage score John.

 

This machine just keeps on getting better and better
WOW!
thats all I have to say

 

OK, hooper, I'm trusting you and Mark to get this to 16.5K.

Good Luck mate, you are a fine overclocker.

 

someone at killernotebooks already hit 16.8 in 3dmark06.
now everyone waits to see what it will get in 3dmark vantage

 

Qaz- dont worry about 16.5k worry more about 17k

John- Your the only one who asked for Vantage lol- i will get it for you this week.

 

I only care about temps

 

hehe not a problem. I will upload some of the temps with differnet overclocks.

 

2 sets of temps:
1st one is multiplier OC at right under 3.1Gigs
2nd one is extreme overclock

 

pictures do not show up. Can you just attach them to your message?

Thanks

 

Those are pretty hot temps for just 3dmark06 stress. Are u using any laptop cooler with your laptop mhooper? 74C for GPU after 3dmark06 stress is a lot. All those temps are still very acceptable but far more from what 9262 can achieve.

 

No laptop cooler.

Masta Marek.- that was with a ton of overclocking on the CPU and GPU, no one is going to push it like that.

And your 9262 isnt having the CPU and GPU pushed that hard either.

We are talking about extreme overclocking and no outside cooling sources other than the mods etc.

 

true but the Q9650 has a TDP rating of 95W while the QX has a rating of 45W.
Not sure about TDP ratings of 9800m GTX but I m gonna bet that they are still higher then 3870's.

 

yes. been wanting to see if i still hold the record in vantage. that's why.

 

Ahhh, I will try to break it for you. only difficulty will be that Pyshic isnt supported or enabled by ATI

 

physx only moves the cpu.... not the gpu. this isn't 3dmark06
intel showed that already with their gpu score. i didn't have physx installed on one of my runs either, but then again....my cpu wasn't super clocked with a fancy 300 dollar cooler with high tech software running either...

edit: still waiting to see the hoopster on the list. go ahead and release your score to the world...

 

I wouldn`t say that. Those temps are ridiculousely GOOD.
Maybe the 9262 has better temps, but it does also have 4 fans,it`s much heavier and has far more heat dissipation space.
My xps is designed to activate the fans at 75C ,so Dell deemed those temps safe, and his are even lower than that.
Awesome indeed....

 

That's my 15815 Somehow my 15817 didnt make it to the list.. I forgot to post it. But got the screenshot in my sig. W00t.

by the way, hoop..I havent seen you post anything in quite some time.. where ya been with that?

 

I am waiting on my Extreme tuning utility from you. I just posted temps under full load and a screen shot of a 3dMark of 16k lol

 

oh, did you? sorry.. I missed it.

Found it.. nice.

 

How much do you overclock the GPU´s. Maybe the 3870 is crazy overclockers.

 

i dont think he has yet, but some guy over at gog over clocked it by 100 mhz. which helped him get a 16.8k run at 3dmark06. he said he couldn't over clock it higher...said something about his heat mod.

 

Just asking a dumb question that I have never seen answered(or maybe missed) but is there a problem with keeping the rigs cool?I have seen a wide range of temps and they are starting to worry me.

 

nah ikas, they are with in reason.... it's when they start hitting 80c's and up....

 

Yeah I know around 80c's is good but I've seen some temps posted up to 100c's and that's a little alarming, anybody do any marathon gaming sessions and have high temps?

 

your right. there is a guy whos temps hit 110. i told him to check his fans to make sure they we're even running.

 

Average seems to be in the mid to high 70s. My GPUs got as high as 82 degrees when playing a game called Savage 2 (everything maxxed out). TF2 hits around 77, same with BF2, UT3 and Grid.

 

Holy 110. You could hardboil eggs with a pot of water on top of his GPU.

You guys are bold, very bold, for OC'ing like this. I'd already be scared at 75C i think.

Although the Q6600 pin mod is tempting...

 

he wasn't over clocking. that was his stock scores for only having his laptop for 1 day.

 

Thats what you get when you order from Alienware hehe,

But anyways.

I can almost bet that less thatn 1/100th of 1% will be overclocking these things as high as I had them when I ran the 2nd 3dmark06

 

run the pin mod! you will save 300 bucks and your chip will in fact run exactly as a q9650@ 3.0 it's been proven. runs great. i tried it already and it''s very stable and temps are low.

 

82C is more than ok.
85C and up, and you`ve got yourself a toaster.

 

Sorry i havent been posting as much for the last few days. Here is a game list that I am going to be focusing on when I have time:
COD4
Crysis
Crysis Warhead
Far Cry 2
Stalker- Clear Sky
Bioshock
Unreal Tournament 3
Half Life 2

I am going to post benchmarks etc. Mark said he would put up a gaming tweak section and work on teh .exe files etc and I will be inputting all my settings etc for the maximum game performance along with utilizing KN Cop to get the ultimate frame rates out this machine.

Here you can read about the idea:
http://guruofgaming.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=27175#27175

It is going to take us a little time to get all the data together for every game. but it will be an awesome asset to the community.

I will also be posting the setting etc over there for safe overclocking, monitoring and all other data I have aquired thus far.

 

From your experience with gaming, does it make a difference when you put the settings to "High" in the ATI Control Center? If you put all the settings in the game to High Quality and 8x/16x AA, will it make a difference if you then put the settings to 'High" in the ATI utility? Is there an advantage to setting the AA in the ATI utility vs. setting it in the game?

 

allow your in-game settings to control AA..that setting is available in the Control panel. You wont see any benefit from changing the AA settings in CCC, because the game is going to still use it's own. The only one that may offer more performance would be mipmaps. From what I have experienced.. and I also didnt see any changes with default vs. advanced AI.

 

Well as stated I wasn’t going to be around as much due to the fact that the this forum takes up so much time justifying all your post.

So I have been messing with settings and managed 30 FPS in Far Cry Ultra 1920x 1200 blah blah blah.
First off, Far Cry 2 is a pretty cool game. It isn't my typical genre, but I liked it way better than the 10 minutes of game play in Crysis I had to subject myself too. Everyone keeps making claims about real life performance and REAL LIFE benchmarks. In order to process and help identify how I would play the game and how I would choose my settings, the following benchmark standards will be implemented to simulate REAL LIFE game play.

• Playable settings: That standard will be 30 fps since that is the golden number that almost everyone wants to see. Lets face it; no one is going to play Crysis on Very High, or Far Cry 2 at Ultra High at 1920 x 1200 with DX-10 etc. etc. etc. on a laptop. It will slow down to an unplayable frame rate at some point and you are going to eventually change your settings to accomodate REAL LIFE gameplay. So why confuse the issue of what these systems are capable of with a bunch of curb-fitted results? These benchmark tools have so many settings that it is hard to actually get an apples to apples comparrsion.

So yes it will score well in these benchmarks. In a game, it is great.

I called Mark and we had a debate in regards to this and we came up with a checklist that should eliminate allot of the confusion. If you want to play these games on Max settings, Max resolution and Direct x 10 and you are unwilling to compromise on 1 of the 4 below factors then you need a desktop.

Framerates above 30 fps.
1. Play at Ultra High settings, 1920 x 1200 resolution, and Direct x9
2. Play at High Settings, 1920 x 1200 res, and Direct x10
3. Play at Ultra High, 1280 x 1040 ( or another lower screen res) and Direct x 10
The checklist is really simple, because if you want to play Far Cry 2 at Ultra High, 30+ fps, and at 1920 x 1200 you can do that, but you would have to play in DX-9 instead of DX-10. Although Microsoft would like people to believe that you can't live without DX-10, Personally, I don't think Direct x10 is much different than Direct x9 - that would be my choice.when I am playing, I do not notice a REAL difference. People may disagree with me, but before you post any sort of an attack, refer back to the checklist. Don't argue about it, just have DX-10 as ONE of your 3 selections and remove one of the others.

A simple switch from DX-10, 1920x1200, Ultra-High Settings to Very-High settings yields 35 fps with the Killer Notebooks 8.11 Kyokudo driver... everything else stock and untweaked in any way. Another thing? Maybe drop your settings to just High and have a great experience. Six months ago people would have killed to play these games on High. I doubt these chronic benchmarkers are even playing these games, that is what I think. They are being pretty sucessful at getting others to get caught up in the minutua of Ultra High settings non sense and getting people to feel like High settings are unaccepatable.


Now if you are still reading I am going to make the assumption that you are willing to sacrifice 1 of those 4 settings.Now after the debate here is the conclusion that we both had come too. We based most of this information of Far Cry 2 since it’s a demanding game that I can tolerate lol. (sorry guys I hated Crysis).

I must also say in a fast paced game Ultra High is almost the exact same as high or very high so there really wasn’t a difference visually on either one. ( I didn’t notice it at all to be quite frank). Anyone that says there is an extreme difference, well I guess they have an eagle eye. They will be the same person that complains the game isn't realistic enough. Of course they have been in a fire fight in REAL LIFE and they noticed the difference between that and the game, where the shadow on a blade of grass being bent by the weight of an ant was not there. Now is that realistic?


So I have come to the conclusion that I am done comparing and competing. I think I already proved the point that I can get this machince performing to extreme conditions. So I am going to make a different contribution to the community and this will be a realistic REAL LIFE gaming experience.

Im done trying to prove that this can compete with the every other notebook out there. It can compete to with the D901C as Mark sent me and Odachi fully loaded, which I returned to him, so Thanks to him for the free test drive comparison.

• Right off the bat lets be realistic the D901C is heavy at almost a full 3 LBS heavier it’s a ***** to lug around.
  Looks, In my opinion, the Odachi next to my Nagamaki (which I might add will have carbon fiber soon) is impossible to describe. I guess I could start by saying, "This isn't a desktop replacement, it's a dang desktop!"
  The odachi was a pain in the *** to hook up to the TV and the External monitor and the picture quality diminished as the Nagamaki has a HDMI output the Odachi doesn’t.
  Backlit keyboard isn’t an option with the Odachi and it looks brilliant on the Nagamaki (in three colors!).
  The keyboard quality and feel itself was at least 10 times better on the Nagamki for long typing sessions.
  External storage was a breeze with the eSATA port on the Nagamaki which is conspicuously absent on the Odachi.
  DDR3 vs. DDR2 memory
  The list goes on and on but one of the most important to add is the Nagamaki has 2 hours of battery life, the other... 45 minutes!

In all reality if I would rather have a nice cube Desktop that weights about the same as the Odachi and can kick both of the systems asses in Gaming over having an Odachi. The Odachi did manage a SMALL edge in FPS on the Ultra high unrelaisitc for a notebook settings. However in normal REAL LIFE ( I love caps) settings they were neck and neck all the way.

Well that’s my synopsis on the whole issue. Flame away (reason I don’t post here a lot anymore).

But due to people requesting real life benchmarks that’s what I will be posting.


Side Note:
I have to give many thanks to the Overclocking section and all the hard work and settings that were given to me to test. I am going to be adding a ton more information to it and as it develops and builds it will be an awesome resource for every game and being able to easily access the BEST settings for Video cards processors and all the information easily switch between gaming platforms.


Side Note 2 :
The new custom BIOS is being implemented, as well as TRUE mobile driver platform for these cards. That is the Killer Notebooks Kyokudo driver difference. None of this modded desktop garbage. This is not This should increase gaming performance in these cards to the MAXIMUM

 

hmm 30fps in 1920*1200 from OCZ vs 58 fps in 1920*1200 from D901C, almost twice

 

Thanks for taking some of your time to do the Far Cry 2 Ultra High benchmark and posting your opinion about how well the OCZ Whitebook (Nagamaki) does against the Clevo D901C (Odachi).

Though, my final word on this is, the D901C fits my needs, even though it would have been nice to see more ports (such as eSata and HDMI) along with a fingerprint reader on it, I would have decided and made a much better spec-wise desktop than my D901C, but since I have liked laptops ever since I remember (staring at the old Apple Laptops in 80's magazines as a kid), I went for the D901C.

 

Wrong again. The 58 wasnt at 1920x 1200 it was at 1680 x 1050 if its the one I beleive you are referring too. Please try to keep all information at least 1/2 way accurate.

 

but 1680*1050 with open AA2x (and johnksss got 47 with 1920*1080 ultra high if I don't missed)

 

Here it is:

Far Cry 2 - Ultra High - 1920x1200 - 9800m GTX SLi - No AA:

 

John got 64fps at those settings, brotha.

 

yeah that is the score I've seen from johnksss.