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    Now I'm getty antsy...

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by Brianj, Oct 4, 2006.

  1. Brianj

    Brianj Notebook Geek

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    Acording to Ron at Power Notebooks

    "We just got or are getting the T7200 CPU’s in today and expect to begin shipping early next week."

    :D :D :D

    I can't wait to get my HEL80
     
  2. Katicflis

    Katicflis Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, the original plan was for me to grab an A8Js.
    But I'm switching to an HGL30 and maybe I'll grab a nice Windows-Vista Direct X10-capable awesome-video-card 14' Asus in a couple years.

    Speaking of Ron from powernotebooks ... He was supposed to call me tonight ...
     
  3. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    A 14 foot Asus, Katicflis? ;) Heheh. (" is inches, ' is feet). DX10 support may not be good performance. Think back to the GeForce FX's... the latest spec isn't necessarily supported very speedily.

    Not to mention the amount of other crap being built into Vista to keep you from using the computer like you want. Mandatory media DRM, worse anti-piracy protections than WGA is now, better ways for something you pay lots of money for to keep you from using it like you want. Learn to use Linux before it's too late ;)
     
  4. Katicflis

    Katicflis Notebook Consultant

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    Come on, Pita ... You KNOW a fourteen-foot Asus would probably be the bestest thing ever.

    And where can I learrn about this linux, then ...
    As a gamer, Linux is what I want?
     
  5. pyro9219

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    Ron = Donald?
     
  6. Katicflis

    Katicflis Notebook Consultant

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    No. Ron = ron. Donald = On Vacation.

    You're thinking "Ronald McDonald."
    Try not to be influenced by plastic clowns.
     
  7. l33t_c0w

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    Indeed. The influence of plastic clowns was responsible in large part for all of my current problems.

    Part of my drive to learn linux is to avoid being tied to Windows in the future... that cold closed place where the plastic clowns reside, to bind you with cruel chains, and punish you for patronizing their establishment...
     
  8. mythless

    mythless King of Pies

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    That's right Katicflis, join the Dark Side. And, this is coming from a guy with no side...maybe I too will join...maybe.
     
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    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    Im definitely lurking through as well. My due date is coming up and im losing faith.
     
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    defsquad Notebook Guru

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    ubuntu for the win!
     
  11. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Every time someone installs Linux, I kill a kitten.
     
  12. Katicflis

    Katicflis Notebook Consultant

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    Darn you guys and your linux ... What if I want to superfetch?!
    Is it worth investing research/time in Linux and sacrificing both a kitty and superfetch?! What if I want to play X-boxish games in the future.
    *Looks up this Linux*


    Though we have established one thing with this thread.
    Plastic Burger King>Donald Stratton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Plastic Ronald McDonald
    http://adweek.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/bkbrookeburke.jpg

    Looks like Brooke Burke .... WOKE UP WITH THE KING!!
     
  13. Katicflis

    Katicflis Notebook Consultant

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    Just from looking at the board Linux looks bothersome ...
     
  14. Kil4Thril

    Kil4Thril Notebook Enthusiast

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    The last time I tried to install Linux, I tried to kill my own cat. Didn't go well....
     
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    Even though I'm a dog-person...please be kind to your cats ;).

    That includes strays too now...
     
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    OttoRitter Notebook Geek

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    Linux is not for the lazy that is for sure. But once you re done setting your system you paid exactly 0$ to anyone. If you can code you have access to all of the source code to customise any application the way you want it. ALL (well most) software are 100% free. Most are better performer then their windows counter part. Once you are done installing you understand your system much better. It is possible to game on Windows game with linux but not all titles will work properly and some will be a pain to install (you can use one of 2 paths, Wine or Cedega). So it all comes down to the following for me: I was tired of spyware infected programs, those are still non existat on linux as far as i know. I was also tired of having to pay for every dang piece of crap software that were not customisable. Virus are also much less of a problem with linux for multiple reasons. One the OS is not targeted by virus writers because the user base is smaller. Second you run most of the time as a non priviledged user so Virus have a hard time instaling themselve system wide. Well those were my 2 cents on linux!

    Otto.
     
  17. Katicflis

    Katicflis Notebook Consultant

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    The $0 price-tag would probably be more attractive if I had to pay $200 for Windows ... but as a student I can get it for free. As for "security" ... I've never really had a problem with windows. At least, one that I know of.

    And crap-software can be removed, yes? So that isn't much of an issue, either.
     
  18. Katicflis

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    In other news, it looks like the Katicflis notebook-fund won't be available until November. So ... I'm back to being torn between the A8Js and the HGL-30 ...
     
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    Only time will tell, my times up at the end of October....
     
  20. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Katicflis: It's more of a philosophy than anything else. I like Linux for basically everything except a few apps I can't get to run under Wine. The system makes more sense to me than Windows, at a system level. So that helps. I'm also a programmer, and it's much easier to make Linux programs, scripts, etc. It's usually all just built in. I also hate that Windows developers and the OS itself treats me like a criminal by default. If I want to use the stuff they're giving me, if I want to just update the computer so I'm a good Internet citizen, they waste my time and check to see if I'm a "criminal". And they've been wrong on it before, saying that a system of mine wasn't "genuine" when it was. I'm not about to spend time on the phone trying to activate something that I've already paid for, and have been using without any problems until they changed it. Their media subsystems are screwy, they are trying to inject DRM even into the files I would create from Windows Media Player 11, completely LEGAL files, they start wanting to assert THEIR rights on it, preventing me from copying MY stuff. Screw that, and screw them. I'll be very nice, and play along, pay for software, etc. if I think I'm being treated fairly. I don't think I am, especially with Vista, so... no dice. MS has lost a customer to as much of an extent that I am able to do.

    And to answer your question, "SuperFetch" is a Microsoft 'technology', much like DirectX is. It will exist in various forms on various systems. OpenGL, OpenAL and to a different extent, SDL are the equivalents of DirectX on Linux. The same thing will happen with the superfetch hardware eventually, often sooner than later given the way that Linux development works.

    And as for games, the Unreal series have Linux native versions, Quake 4, etc. do as well. I have also played through things like "American McGee's Alice" completely under Linux, through the Wine layer. It's actually usually the copy-protection that gets in the way of games running under Linux (notice the recurring theme here?) Not to mention the tons of other nifty Linux-based games available, mostly "toy" style, that are much easier (and cheaper)to find than Windows versions. Stuff like Mahjongg, sudoku, clones of various platform games, etc.
     
  21. Katicflis

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    Heh. Very interesting, Pita. You've explained your perception very well.
     
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    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Windows is for three types of people, I think:

    1. gamers (Oblivion, for instance... not so good on linux)
    2. people shackled to windows programs (superset of gamers. i fall here.)
    3. people who can't be bothered to learn a whole lot of stuff to use their computer. (I've fallen here before too occasionally.)

    <RANT size=long alt="I'd like to apologise for the following:">

    DRM really boils my blood though. If buying software was as simple as days gone by... (you buy software, and then you're done) I can say with complete honesty, that I would buy more software. Same deal with audio. I'd have probably spent a hundred or two on music by now in itunes if I wasn't keeping Apple-lock-in at arm's length.

    I bought this Spinrite program, and there wasn't *any* copy protection (not even a serial for me to put in). And it was such a foreign feeling, and so light and fluffy, that I almost considered buying a second copy just to repeat the unburdened experience.

    DRM is much more about retaining control and ownership of media/software/the souls of your users than any "war against piracy". There's stuff out there that clearly exists for the sole purpose of milking consumers... region codes for example. They're there as a mechanism for segmenting the market so you can charge more money from more affluet people. My problem is that it's technology that is added in only for that purpose, and it interferes with a nonnegligable portion of normal use.

    I see all kinds of neat tech getting squashed under the heel of corporate interest and lobbying dollars, and it makes me angry. The idea of them taking these flawed ideas any further... some of the ridiculous schemes like those in Media Player 11... intolerable -- if it becomes completely unavoidable, I'll forego Windows-only games, and say goodbye to any Windows-only programs, and move completely over to an alternative. (Which would be open source, because open does not gel with "black box that is illegal to open".) I'm already very sympathetic to software piracy in some cases, because it feels more like self defense than like thievery. (I'm not saying I advocate software piracy.)

    Come on... WMP11... you can't back up your licenses? Having licenses that need backed up in the first place is offensive enough. Pah.

    </RANT>
     
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    What is tihs superfetch you speak of?
     
  25. pyro9219

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    Nice post...

    I have to agree with this completely.. Vista has me so creeped out that I have shifted all my systems dual boot for now until I'm again satisfied with me re-learned linux knowledge.. Then I ditch windows all over again...
     
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    Another great post in my opinion.. I love how you can tell when people are passionate about a topic.... :D