Nox A14 screen quality - what's it like?

What's the screen like on the Nox A14? I currently have a 6214w with terrible viewing angles, and also the screen just isn't vibrant at all. Compared to my desktop monitor, white looks like a light grey and colours are just really dull, and that's when looking at it from the best angle.

My friend just brought a new Sony Vaio with "X-Black technology" and the screen is vibrant (he has it set too high if you ask me - you can see the colours he's looking at reflecting off his body!), but it definately shows the quality increase in laptop screens. So I'm wondering how the A14 has improved. Anybody here able to compare the A14's screen to the 6214w's? Some people must have upgraded laptops

 

I feel it is always better to let people reply with their own experience but I will say that I feel they have come a long way in using quality screens. Just remember, you can make even the best lcd screen look terrible with bad settings and the worst lcd screens look half way decent with good settings.

 

Yeah that's very true, good point. However there are things such as viewing angles, lowest black point and maximum luminosity that can't be adjusted with software or a calibrator. I was hoping somebody could post about the differences between the screens used on these laptops, or maybe post some images? If not, does anybody know the model of the screen used in the Nox A14, maybe other laptops use the same display and I can go check it out instore?

 

I know some of the older units used Samsung LCD's. I think it may be AU Optronics on the A14's but dont hold me to that, I might be wrong.

 

Thought i'm not shure what panel my Mythos has, comparing it to my old LG 20" LCD screen.. Well, i can't bare to watch the LG anymore.

 

CCFL displays lose brightness over time so comparing a new(er) display to an old one is not very useful.

 

Most people aren't going to keep their notebooks long enough for the CCFL aging to show any difference. And in case it fails it is easy and inexpensive to replace.

present LEDs generally draw more power and produce more heat than CCFL designs. A basis for the power savings is that the number of LEDs in a screen varies. If the number is low enough, less power is needed and less heat is generated. If you have a small number of LEDs it can probably save power compared to a CCFL design

 

Alfred Poor, is it you? *lol* How pathetic.

 

Nope general info from HQ
Every laptop store should know this

 

Assuming 20.000 hours of life time, linear degeneration (being VERY friendly - in fact it's a negative exponential process), and 8 hours of usage a day:

After 1,00 year: 7,3% loss of brightness
After 1,37 years: 10,0% loss of brightness
After 2,00 years: 14,6% loss of brightness
After 2,74 years: 20,0% loss of brightness
After 3,00 years: 21,9% loss of brightness

So please don't (re)tell us that one wouldn't use a notebook long enough to notice the loss of CCFL brightness.

 

You got a source on those statistics QualitySeeker?

 

Oh no, 7.3% loss of brightness after ONE HUNDRED years !!! But seriously, go find out how long an average person uses their laptop, then tell us how much loss of brightness they will see and tell us if it is noticeable. I highly doubt anyone is even going to notice loss of brightness even after 20 years. I don't even know you bothered posting 100+ years of usage. Show us your stats (with sources) of how much brightness will be lost from the first year to the tenth.

Btw, learn how to use a decimal please.

 

The only value you need is the lifetime of the lamp.

After 0 years = brightness 100%
After x years = brightness 50%

x = lifetime in hours/(usage per day in hours*365), the rest is simple math.

If you don't notice 15% loss of brightness after two years you maybe should see an eye specialist (and again, those 15% are very conservative as the degeneration process isn't linear).

It's you who should learn about the decimal comma. There are more countries in the world using the decimal comma than the decimal point. Yeah, there IS a world outside of the US.

 

Maybe you are using your laptop longer then most of us. I can tell you that we see customers returning every 2,5 years. Why... not of the loss of brightness, but because of the technology. So you might be right about the 20% loss, but as I said you might have sold it already. But I really doubt you notice 7,3% after a year. If you do, shoot me an email and i'll replace it for you .

I didn't say CCFL is better.

 

Like I didn't say CCFL displays are bad.

Just wanted to state that comparisons of displays of different age don't say a lot.

 

someone at the top of the topic was asking about the screen feeling of the noxA14. personally, I think the feeling is strange, like lines becoming apparent when watching movies. A kind of pixelisation, very surprising with 1440*900 resolution. it is more or less the same with a lower screen resolution.
I don't think it comes from the driver or the player, using the driver provided by zepto with VLC.

horizontal viewing angle are ok, but vertical view angle is a bit small, thus moving the screen downward or upward changes the image rapidly.

 

thats usually not a lcd issue, thats graphics, memory, hdd, cpu depending on what exactly is happening.. not every computer will play movies perfect, if its not setup to do so.

 

haha my mistake for thinking this forum was more US/Canada/UK based than other countries (show me that it isn't). Coming on here and using the decimal comma and saying you do it because more countries in the world use it, is like me coming on here and typing in mandarin just because its the most common language in the world. Think about where the majority of these people on the forums are from and use their standard or something they are most familiar with.

Again, if you disagree, just ask yourself - should a chinese person come in a more US/Can/UK based forum and type in chinese, just because chinese is the most common language? I hope you answer "no" and that your actual answer is that he should type in english because this forum is more US/Can/UK based than other countries.

Anyways, like I said before and others have said, -most- people will have already replaced their laptop by the time the loss in brightness will affect them to the point where it becomes a major issue. Even if the 15% loss is such a huge problem after two years, it is not expensive to replace nor is it hard to do so.

 

I didn't say that.

No. Who replaces a notebook that's still under warranty... the majority? Show me the boss that orders new business notebooks every year.

Where have I claimed otherwise? Please stop this off-topic blah-blah, it's totally pointless.

Whether you like it or not, CCFL lamps degrade and you can clearly see a difference in brightness after just one year - that's what my initial posting was all about.

 

You didn't have to. Getting all defensive after telling you to learn how to use a decimal in a more US/Can/UK based forum was me asking you to use a standard that the majority of the forum readers would understand.

Since when did "-most- people" = bosses? No where in my posts did I mention talking about bosses. Do yourself a favor, search up a few threads and see how long the average person on this forum uses their laptop. The majority is between two to three years, as it seems to be a good time to change up into the newer technology.

Also, if you want to talk about bosses and high-ups. In bigger companies the bosses and high-ups are almost always given brand new top of the line products to use from vendors that are looking to seal contracts. Since technology changes so fast, I can tell you, a lot of bosses that are in direct business contact with vendors (lenovo, dell, blackberry, etc) are given new products whenever new products are out.

I'm sorry if you didn't but, coming in here and making snide comments (i.e - Alfred Poor, is it you? *lol* How pathetic. ) is "totally pointless" and does nothing but makes you look like an ***. If all you wanted to do was state that CCFL lamps degrade, then do so, don't make cheap shots. And I apologize if I sounded stupid in my first post, as my comments were based off your numbers, which at the time I thought you had mistyped a comma instead of a decimal. But my other posts still stand, as the majority (read: majority of the people who read this forum) will be replacing their laptops by the two - three year mark for newer technology. So really, the CCFL degeneration is a non-issue.

 

Up to three years? Wow, maybe that's why I've choosen three years as my last example of brightness decrease. And again: over 20% loss are noticeable (never talked about it being an issue because that's far from being on-topic).

Confusing 1,00 with 100 (Hello decimal point, where are thou?), well... confusing 1,000 with 1.000... ok, but then 100 makes total sense in this context, so I guess in the end it was my fault, I'm sorry! Oh , there was this snide thing again!

Talking about snide comments: I made my point and the reply was a c&p'ed text from an interview with Alfred Poor without citation - so yes, I thought it was time for a snide comment (btw. I know what was there before the edit ).

I'm outta here, I don't want to get grey hair for nothing.

 

I'm not denying that there is going to be a decrease, all I'm saying now is that by then most people will be looking at a new screen on a new laptop, so really, bringing up the brightness decrease over and over again is a moot point.

Whatever. You can use whatever notational system you want, just be sure to let the readers know which notational system you are using (if you choose to use one different from the one that is used here) so that they may interpret your posts correctly with out misinterpretation. Just letting you know again, the majority of the people on this forum will use a comma or a space between groupings of three numbers for their thousands separator.

Are you on something? Please clarify your comment here, as I find it hard to decipher your comments and jokes (i.e - your pathetic attempt at making a joke by c&ping text from interviews and expecting people to know what you are referring to.)

 

Moot? Maybe it's time for you to re-read this thread (start with Thorne's posting and stop after my reply).

Thanks for the advise but I prefer to challenge the reader. There is no room for misinterpretation unless the reader does not know about other notations.

Doing that the whole time, so here we go:
* Thorne's posting.
* My reasonable reply.
* Zepto USA's comment, that wasn't his comment but a copy and paste from an online interview with Alfred Poor.
* My snide comment.
* Zepto USA's reply (which he later edited but I've seen the original - I'm a nice guy so I won't quote it ).
* Me posting a trivial proof that my first reply indeed was reasonable.

End of story. Well not really. Someone then started to argue about decimal separators.

And because I'm so snide: Mandarin isn't the most common language in the world, it's the most spoken language in the world. It's not a world language because the number of non-native speakers is fairly low. Education order fulfilled.

Good night! (It's 4:46am here.)

 

btw
not so many mandarin native speakers, they learn it at school. people in the PRC speak natively local dialects.

funny to speak about education. most native english speakers won't speak another language.

 

Wow Kg810 you're good at making useless comments and posts. Please go find /b/. When QualitySeeker is talking about bosses he does not say that everyone are bosses, he is asking which boss will replace business laptops every year. I.e. for his subordinates. That should be obvious, as almost all things QS has said has been obvious. I can not understand how you can misinterpret so much.

 

Go back and read our posts leading to that. I kept saying the majority of the people, meaning people on this forum, will have replaced their laptop between two-three years. Even if he was talking about a boss buying new laptops for his subordinates, why the hell is that relevant? When I made clear several times that I was talking about the people within this forum and not bosses in companies that are ordering notebooks for their subordinates. Seriously. I tell him something relevant (i.e - how long most people on this forum keep their laptops) and he can't seem to stay on the page and brings up bosses and subordinates and I'm the one who is misinterpreting? I don't see why he even bothered to address bosses/subordinates, honestly, is this forum mainly for bosses who are looking to buy a bunch of notebooks from a vendor? No.

Btw, your post is just as useless as ours buddy. Also if my posts are useless, his are just as much. He wasn't even addressing the OP. The OP asked for a comparison between A14 and 6214w and if the viewing angles are ok.

Um, no. I don't know where you are getting your numbers from but, there are 982,000,000 mandarin native speakers in the world. As for the rest of the dialects within the chinese language, they are not included in that number.

And yes I will admit that mandarin is not the most common but, in fact the most spoken.


Anyways, this thread has gone way too off topic. So this will be my last post until I receive my A14. At least then I will be able to help out the OP, rather than talk about loss of brightness.

 

Thanks for the detailed info, sounds like it suffers from the same problems that my 6214w does. How is it with dark images, and hows the contrast and colours?