OCZ Whitebook Heat Mod

it's like anything else...you have to take the good with the bad. not everyone is going to make something perfect every single time.... it's a fact of life and not an opinion.....

 

Amen. And I wish I were perfect right about now.. *grumbles* Gotta go to BB tomorrow john, and pick up an external. talk bout brain damage. Anyhow, Im goin to bed. Been up for 21 hours, with 2 hours of sleep last night. I can't see straight.

 

aight E, have a good one.

 

These systems have been out to resellers for a relatively short period of time though, not much time for working on mods.

From what I can tell, K|N has been spending much of his time on the OCZ notebooks, to the degree of even temporarily halting his work on the 15.4 M860TU. To some extent, I do see early adopters of the OCZ as being guinea pigs for testing, nonetheless, this is true for all new platforms. In some cases, field testing for platforms can only be initiated by introducing it into use due to urgency. I see the heatsink mods as being somewhat of this nature. Shipped to provide the extra bit of performance, and then further modified as results and reports come in.

I guess it's dependent on individual though. Some users, like yourself, prefer a polished, finished, improved product and are fine with a later date, others want some improvement immediately, don't mind a work in progress and don't want to wait. Some may even see the work in progress as a benefit, demonstrating commitment to the platform on a long term basis.

As for the baseplate, the fact that he has previously sent out the new baseplate before requiring customers to return the old one is a decent way of dealing with new iterations of the baseplate. I do agree that scrapping will probably be the only option for the old baseplates though.

 

K-Tron,you are going by the pictures that E-Wrecked posted and saying how unprofessional this modification is? What I got from this thread was that you need to physically take the bottom off to see whatever it is we're supposed to be seeing. No offense, but I have one. I am right here, and I don't see anything unprofessional about it.

Also from what I have read no one actually seems to be disputing that it works. If it looks good, and it works, I don't see where "unprofessional" comes in. I take it the picture posted earlier was your computer sitting in a garage taken apart with fans all over it. Is that your cooling modification you are talking about in your posts? Because I can't really take that to work with me.


Now E-Wrecked is saying that the image I posted of the bottom of this computer is "Photoshoped" and the computer doesn't look like that. You caught me. It is fake. I was going to have a grainy cell phone pic taken in low lighting from a distance that no one could see but he beat me to it. I didn't want to copy him.

I thought it would be better "make" a fake picture in Photoshop from scratch. That way people could see a properly lighted, close-up and draw their own conclusions. I have the capability to do that, yet I am squandering my talents in the OCZ forum at NBR.

E-Wrecked, another Killer Notebooks customer has beat your 3D06 score with a 2.4 GHz Q9200 15,838. How is that possible? You are so knowledgeable with all this stuff and other than what I read on the GoG forums and a few emails I'm just a regular run of the mill Photoshop expert.

 

yeah the baseplate thing it's great. I've done it myself in my old notebook. Of course not has perfect has KN but a LOT cheaper and it does the work. I have access to a CNC machine so it's not hard for me. I can even put my personal logo on the heatsinks. Although I didn't do it... I mean it's not a visible part... From the inside it looked like crap just like the first images of this post, but at least the holes were more perfect.

I love the KN mods and stuff but for myself I think it's just too expensive. Paying a lot more for the mods is not for me. I prefer doing it myself at my own way, maybe even more efficiently, and a lot cheaper.
It's really nice to see a company selling those options even if in the end they are expensive they will always have their costumers. And a KN costumer it's a happy costumer. But I have to admit that it's not for me.

 

If you have the equipment to do it like you do it's great to do it yourself. I'm sure there is also a very high level of satisfaction in doing so. Even though you can do it yourself, you're still cool about what others have done. I don't understand why so many people put his stuff down. I could not do this myself. I am not going to pretend I could. I don't have the tools to do it. I am also glad I can buy it done and not worry about the warranty.

 

I would buy the notebook from KN if they were less expensive and offer other options. They don't offer many options comparing with other builders.
For example, I have a x9100 cpu and 2x1Gb DDR3 sticks and a SSD I can't buy the KN notebook without CPU and RAM, ok I can buy it without HDD (wow).
I can't buy a barebone from them. Even if I could the I think it would be so expensive in relation with other barebone prices that I wouldn't buy it.

example:
P9500CPU
2xHD3870
No HDD
2GB DDR3
intel wireless 5300
bluetooth

$2624 on KN
$2054 on xotic

$570 differente

Of course there are many costumers that are willing to pay that more for the KN customization at that price. But I'm not.

 

Call Mark directly he might be able to work with you. His website doesnt sell everything. From my dealings he actually likes to speak with the cutomer on the phone to make sure they are getting exactly what they want/need etc. Just give him a quick call and ask.

 

Interesting read, You guys seems to OC your systems to no avail, i just got mine yesterday, im at my second driver try, with nothing OCed at all and heres a screeny of my 3dmark06 (also its not a completely fresh install, i have Livemessenger and Dreamscene background running while these tests were made, because honestly whats the use of test run when you wont use your computer in that manner later?

Heres the screenies, Im also very interested in what drivers you guys are running, or what software tweaks you tried and all that, ill be sure to post what I will try and run.

 

Price comparison has been done several times previously.

If you max up on a configurations, the price is very similar between the two. In some circumstances, with K|N coming in cheaper than Xoticpc.

As for Running Gunner, if you read K-Tron's post clearly, he mentions that

and this was his mod, the picture doesn't fit.

Your results seem to fit pretty well with your configuration. May be a tad low due to stuff running in the background.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4077494&postcount=24

They're running their CPU's at 1 Ghz or more higher than yours.

 

Also , was wondering whats the most user friendly / best software to monitor temperatures of both GPUs and CPU?

Thanks in advance

 

I like HWMoniter, and you see a number of the benchmarks posted show HWMonitor running as well, indicating that it works on the W840DI.

 

After this:

Do you think he sells a barebone? I sure would like one if it's not very expensive.

 

Try calling him. His number is available on the K|N website.

 

Out of curiosity how much of that extra ~1K 3dMark can be attributed to the Engineering Sample x9100 vs a retail x9100?

 

doesn't really matter how you come by the cpu....just as long as it works....(technically speaking)

 

Not Narcing just wondering how much perfomance is gained from the ES.

 

the performance gain from the guy at gog better because his gpu was oc'ed 100 more than stock. I think they have similar performance if they ran at the same speed.

 

im knowing...not saying your doing anything....

es=engineering sample
or
early release version of oem cpus. if you get the es version with the last stepping matching the oems, then chances are very good your cpu will run problem free.
gives these type of people the opportunity to try and break or find bugs in the cpu with software programming and extreme conditions. (so to speak)

es x9100 is the same as oem x9100 with a few minor differences...
es is a used cpu without being oem certified (price drop)( so you take your own chances)
oem is a brand new version of the es, but is not used (term is used very lightly) and has been certified and branded as such.

 

The foot extensions are milled metal, yes, but they still have the same rubber feet that the original laptop had (the black bit in the middle), so that point is moot

 

Gotta give props where its due. From what I've seen, his mods are able to better deal with heat and thus increase OC capacity, which is always a plus with this kind of notebook. I'm sure more in house custom items from K|N will be introduced and/or improved upon in the future to further increase heat conducting capacity. It's unfortunate that he's restricting his modifications to K|N customers, but it is understandable as it helps differentiate his company from others.

 

Oh my god. Those pics E-wreck provided with the drilled holes makes the chassis look like it was shot up.

 

uhh.. yeah, you think? It was. Now, maybe K|N will provide their customers real mods to make up for the poor craftsmanship. Why do you think it took so long for someone to provide me pics? Cause they were affraid of backlash, like Ive gotten..that's why. Also, that's why I will not reveal my source. But, evidentally I got K|N either in trouble, or under scrutiny from others. Otherwise they would have never acknowledged my postings and my existence. Seriously though, taking a step back..any reputable company would not sell new computers with ES Intel CPUs(maybe as an option, but not primarily), and hacked up cases. That's just my opinion, but what do I know?

 

Great job slaming E-wrecked. Will take some pictures of mine when I have time to honestly though in all reality your opinion on the matter has gotten old. I have mine right in fornt if me mine runs cooler with a Quad core processor so I am happy and my mod is nice and clean and the hoels are properly aligned. Actually I believe I have said several things in this thread in regards to this, however you "getting osmeone in trouble" /sigh.

And to simply answer you "why did it take so long" - because I dont liek the work of others taken and copied.

And to answer your question on:

"What do I know"- from what I can tell not much

 

No kidding. The kid is a broken record.

The picture I posted of the bottom of my computer from an inch away that everyone can see the quality is "made in Photoshop" according to E-Wrecked.

The kid is really just that. A kid that is angry he got beat by every Killer Notebooks customer that tried to beat him in his own 3D06 contest after he said what a champ her was at over clocking.

He tells Hooper and me about OUR OWN systems and from what I have read is never right.

Cooling mods = WRONG
Q9200 = WRONG
Hooper is Mark from Killer Notebooks = WRONG
XoticOC builds this system = WRONG (ASI does)
KN-COP is a skinned mainstream mod
4850 by end of Christmas / 4870 end of January = Based on WHAT Guru of the Whitebook?

The list is endless. Kid, grow up, no one wants to hear it anymore.

 

if i don't see some new benchmarks with these fancy mods ya'll got! im gonna get to slammin!!! *LOL*

just messin!

 

Allow me to take a breath before I begin this comment.. *breathes in*

The cooling mods are wrong, as far as a customers' stand point is concerned. Those hacked up bases are not a fabrication of my imagination..and whether they are crystal clear, in hi-def, with slow-mo action.. or fuzzy from a camera phone, that doesnt the fact that this is the KN coooling Mod and until I made the pictures public no one else would. Now y'all are happy to brag about it..but mhoop still hasnt posted his. And he was supposed to 4 days ago! Im sure you'e seen the Brittany Spears upskirt..is that stubble because of the cameraman's shaking hand, or just cause it wasn't shaved that day? Does it matter, cause if it moos, has white and/or black spots, utters, and chews the cud..its a cow. Same thing here. Quality pic or not, it is what it is.

The Q9200, that you speak of..you post to me a device manager shot showing the driver/description of an expanded tree..saying Q9200 Extreme and I'll drop it. Just cause you take a 3dmark run and MSPaint q9200 in doesnt make it that.

I never said Xotic made anything. I said I purchased from them, and they outsourced production of major components.. but they handle minor tweaks. What's your point?

KN-COP; you obviously didn't read my entire statement. Go back, review the thread..and review the Intel program for optimizing cores. Hmm..familiar?

To your photoshop statement.. once again, you read and see what you want to see. You never actually comprehend the words in front of you. I said, that you need help with photoshop skills, because your shading isn't the greatest. Not verbatim, but close enough. I didn't say you created an entire picture, cause I know you aren't capable of that. However, the clone & soften tools are very easy to utilize with photoshop. How bout you flip that lid over, and take a REAL pic? Not one of the 18 holes that actually look decent. The grainy pics I posted look "ok" from the outside.

Lastly, if you look a bit closer..you'll notice I am the NEXT OCZ Notebook guru. I didn't say current. So, be precise with your words, because they are very vague and sloppy.

Why are you coming down on me? Are you Mark's gimp? I haven't said anything negative towards K|N. I haven't been biased towards any other reseller, aside from telling the truth. You obviously have a biased, emotion driven opinion. You feel that since something doesn't represent your preferred brand, it must be bad. And, it must be the person who advertises it is at fault. Well, you likely have watched Dateline, and do you think that those guys chattin up what they believe are underaged girls online..do you think they are at fault, or Chris Hansen? Buddy, I'm Chris Hansen..not motivated by anything other than the truth behind the scenes. You, and anyone supporting a smoke screen or propaganda, you are the guys sittin at my bar havin a cookie and kool-aid. There's nothin left to hide.. It's been exposed. And creating excuses and lies only makes you lose that much more respect.

You're welcome to leave at any time.. I'm not keeping you here. Oh, but..just so your warned, the public is outside. And, I can't intervene with whatever they decide to do. But, please..leave the empty glass on my bar.

 

The OP is a flaming attention whore... There's absolutely need to start a flame war on a forum to bash some company just because it charges for additional services. You're better off going to the apple forums and trolling about how their products are grossly overpriced.

Plus, I don't even see any games on your desktop aside from CoD and you haven't posted any gaming benchmarks, only synthetic ones, which don't really mean anything unless you actually play the games. So what if you can get 15000 3D mark score, I'll probably still own you in CoD on my laptop with a HD2600.. Why waste 2000 on a system to only flex your epeen on an internet forum?

Stop professing to know everything about this notebook when you're pulling half the crap out of your rear end. It's not helping anyone else make their decisions.

 

Well it gets to the point where anthing you post that comes form killernotebboksi wrong or edited or this or that. I makes it not so much worthwhile tring to help.

I have to put credit cards up to prove my identity, I have placed several screenshot on the most extreme games with all setting set as high as the go and I get remarks like oh thats not the right stage or they werent in the right place or why only 20FPS on Very Hard.

At some point it becomes pointless.

Everyone pushed for 3do6 so 3 Killer Notebooks clients worked and twead and ran them and we pretty much hold the records with every single type of processor and every configuarble setup.

Im not saying that other manufacters dont make good notebooks. The simply have been proven that KN is the best from what I have gathered.

Name any notebook from anbody and we will match Marks against it of the same stuff and lets see who get the hihgest numbers, Myabe that will be the end of this.

Battle back and forth and we can PROVE what alot of us already know.

 

Seen the heat mod and cringed, but seriously does the OCZ have a overheating issue? sorry but I have been MIA and out of the loop for a little while.
If so many posts bother you from one person I suggest you don't read them, but to stop going to to a forum because you don't like there posts, c'mon man it's all in good fun.
We laugh, we cry, we fight but all in all it's all good,just relax.

 

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