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    OCZ Whitebook Power Consumption

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by ichime, Jan 15, 2009.

  1. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    I'm not sure if this is true. I'm almost compelled to buy a "Kill A Watt" power measuring device to see this for myself. But apparently, a W840Di with two 3870s plus a P9500 consumes only 106 watts? Well, according to notebookjournal.de

    Of course, this is with a P9500, so I'm guessing an X9100 or QX9300 would add to that figure, but I reckon by not much. If this is true, then wow! I never would expect a notebook with two 256bit GPUs would consume so little power...
     
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    This is completely unfounded, but I would be shocked as well. The power adapter is way overkill if that's the case, isn't it rated for 265 watts?
     
    ZevoOptik, Jan 15, 2009
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    zfactor Mastershake

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    if i can get the unit back in here tomm (ill call him and ask) i can test power draw and let you know
     
    zfactor, Jan 16, 2009
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  4. E-wrecked

    E-wrecked BANNED

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    odd..then why cant they send the CPU enough power to OC?
     
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    The adapter is 220/230 watt, the GPU and Max CPU is approx 115-120 watt consumption under normal conditions.

    Now take into account you have a discharged battery, that will add to the consumption.

    Now again take into account you want to overclock your CPU and GPU's, this too will add alot to the power consumption.

    The manufacture for safety has to add a large gap between the max wattage consumption under all conditions and the actual available wattage of the A/C adapter.

    Anything less than this 220W A/C adapter would go into instant meltdown.
     
    [email protected], Jan 16, 2009
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  6. robm@rkcomputer.net

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    With the intel XTU you can adjust the CPU voltage and bring the CPU to the extreme limit without any problems. Not sure but the next bios revision may address the upper limit overclock voltages.
     
    [email protected], Jan 16, 2009
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  7. E-wrecked

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    Hmm.. so, where do I get XTU? Cause I haven't had any luck. :)
     
    E-wrecked, Jan 16, 2009
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  8. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    You know the problem with computer speak? Too many TLAs (three letter acronyms)

    dang....wipe wipe wipe
     
    gerryf19, Jan 16, 2009
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  9. theriko

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    Xtreme Tuning Utility
     
    theriko, Jan 16, 2009
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  10. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    So if you were to add in a qx9300(55watts - 25 from p9500) it would be 136watts plus overclocking for (24watts) 160watts and the 4870x2 tdp is unknown.(i think 24w is over kill. but who knows how far people will go.)

    i think ocz planned for the whitebook to use alot of power because off the different watts off the cpu(p 25w,t 35w,qx 55w), the gpu (i dont know tdp the 3870 uses) and for the new 4870. and people that will overclock the stuff out of it.
     
    dondadah88, Jan 17, 2009
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  11. eleron911

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    You guys aren`t taking into consideration ALL the elements that draw power from the unit, including perifferals, such as some gadgets you might add, and such.
    Granted, my XPS has a 230W adapter, each 8800M GTX uses 35W, my CPU another 35, and that's 105W just from the basic stuff.
    Add the LCD, hdd, ram, mainboard, speakers,lights , inputs ,fans and you get quite a lot more.
    OC and you're over 200W.
     
    eleron911, Jan 17, 2009
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  12. Johnksss

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    E, did you ever find that xtu software yet?
     
    Johnksss, Jan 17, 2009
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    nope........
     
    E-wrecked, Jan 17, 2009
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    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    well i just add the quad cpu on the wattage that was already above. (106w) and we dont know how much the 48xxxxx series tdp is.
     
    dondadah88, Jan 17, 2009
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  15. eleron911

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    The 4th series will have around 60-75W most likely...
     
    eleron911, Jan 18, 2009
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  16. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    Yeah, but that review suggests 106w TOTAL. Also, the HP firefly concept had similar specs plus an extra 4.3 inch display, yet it used a 170 watt power supply. So apparently there must be enough room between the actual consumption and the PSU max. Nonetheless, I'll check sometime this week if I can get a power consumption monitor and see this for myself.
     
    ichime, Jan 18, 2009
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  17. Johnksss

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    im going to do the same here in a bit...mine was hitting up to 150 watts, but averaging like 95 to 100. but then everything wasn't completely running maxed out either....
     
    Johnksss, Jan 18, 2009
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  18. eleron911

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    Please do. Although of course I was talking about the absolute max power requirements, and well, it`s highly unlikely your system will even be pushed in 100% usage on all components, which may render the 106W TDP realistic.
    Although, not down my alley according to specs...
     
    eleron911, Jan 18, 2009
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    mine is of a curiosity nature. since ours are power hogs compaired to the flextronics...
     
    Johnksss, Jan 18, 2009
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  20. eleron911

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    Well, I dunno how much the Logitech LCD and the Ageia card eat, but I only have 2 hdds, and my CPU is a baby compared to your hungry SUMO quad... :p
     
    eleron911, Jan 18, 2009
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  21. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    Well, according to this review, an M1730 with a T7700 consumes a max of 194 watts.

    For some reason, I think that notebookjournal.de review didn't max it enough. I mean, even its predecessor consumed more power with dual 7950 gTXs in SLi, according to the same source as the M1730 review.
     
    ichime, Jan 18, 2009
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  22. Johnksss

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    i knew there was a reason why i kept my mouth shut this time...lol
    you and your homework skills...lol


    3dmark06 16,680 clocked at 660/960/1600<---- this run cost me 245 watts on Canyon Flight (SM 3.0)
    on the first two test it was 189 to 214 watts. cpu test 162 watts and the very last test was 214 watts.
     
    Johnksss, Jan 18, 2009
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  23. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    245W? wasn`t the adapter just in the 220W range?
    And how`d you measure it ?
     
    eleron911, Jan 19, 2009
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  24. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    he probably has the 280w adapter. John if you don't mind, what does it say for output voltage and current (amps) for your PSU?
     
    ichime, Jan 19, 2009
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    i ran it 3 times to be sure.

    100-240v 50 to 60 hz, 3a
    output 20v 11a

    it's 220 if im not mistaken.
     
    Johnksss, Jan 19, 2009
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    If it outputs 220W to the notebook, it will be drawing more than that at the wall outlet (where johnkss is most likely measuring it) due to losses in the AC-DC conversion
     
    theriko, Jan 19, 2009
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    im measuring from the wall. light surfing and idling....90 watts@ 124v.

    remember...im over clocked at the vga cards that would surely raise it's wattage...but running not over clocked would put me well in the 220 range.
     
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    10% losses? Sounds brutal to me...
    Anyway, the 9262 has a 220W adapter, whereas my XPS has a 230W one, funny really :D
     
    eleron911, Jan 19, 2009
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    under normal conditions, but cpu is still rated @ 130 watts... it's not going above 198 watts.
     
    Johnksss, Jan 19, 2009
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    130W for the CPU, and 45W for each 9800M GTX.
    Dude, that`s over the board right there...
     
    eleron911, Jan 19, 2009
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    kind of why clevo doesn't want to:
    unlock the bios
    allow for over clocking of the cpu
    no extreme desktop cpus
    "thermal budget"
    hahahahaha

    and when that cpu is cranked up..it gets up to 155 watts
     
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  32. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    155+90=245W.

    If I`m getting this right, while cranked up,you have no power for the LCD , RAM, HDDs and other inputs :D
    LOL.
     
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    theories huh (manufactures in general).... but then..that was before they met people like us, trying to gain more out of a system than what the original specs are for it... :)
     
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  34. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    Well, my local radioshack doesn't have the device, although they have it on the website, and I'm not compelled to order one on the internet. With a QX9300 coming in to replace my P8600, I'm compelled to find one eventually and compare.
     
    ichime, Jan 20, 2009
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  35. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    Anyways, I had a feeling that the notebookjournal.de numbers were a bit too low. Notebookcheck.net reviewed the Alienware M17 with a QX9300 and two GPUs, and maxes out around 180w. Not bad, actually better than the M17x and M1730 with only two cores.

    Aside from that, seems to be a positive view of the machine.
     
    ichime, Feb 9, 2009
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