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    Origin PC Evo17-S

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by rogeruzun, Aug 1, 2018.

  1. rogeruzun

    rogeruzun Notebook Enthusiast

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    I saw Origin PC is touting a relatively thin core-i9 17" laptop with a 4k display, something I very much want. I would be using it mainly for video/photo editing. As such I need a fast UHS-II speed SD card reader, one capable of true UHS-II speeds. Also I need a display capable of reproducing a decent color space, preferably 100% adobe or near that, something 87% or more in actual testing.

    Is Origin PC a reputable brand, are these just generic MSI's? The MSI 17" has a VERY low speed card reader which makes it a non-starter.

    Probably I should just wait but I really could use a new more capable laptop soon.
     
  2. Reciever

    Reciever D! For Dragon!

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    Origin PC is a reseller, you are likely looking at Clevo units under the Origin PC moniker.

    That said I dont know much about the individual unit. Hopefully someone else can chime in
     
  3. rogeruzun

    rogeruzun Notebook Enthusiast

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    Clevo would be better than MSI for me this time around. The Clevo's still seem to have fast UHS-II card readers. The new MSI's have very very slow SD-Card readers.

    Edit- oops, checking the benchmarks it seems the latest Schenker models all have slow card readers. I guess most manufacturers stopped using UHS-II card readers for some reason...I should wait for new NVidia chips at this point anyways.
     
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  4. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    There's still no word on the next-gen GPUs. If you need a PC now then buy it now, the GTX 10 series is still plenty powerful for modern gaming. Single-card 4K gaming still isn't realistic unless you're planning to dial down the settings a lot. The upcoming graphics cards might change that, but probably only at the very high end; 1080p/1440p gaming will likely remain the performance sweet spot for a few years yet.

    Origin is a reputable brand, I've reviewed their products before. Their notebooks aren't designed in-house, they are branded Clevos in some cases. I'm not familiar with all of their models. Either way they have good after-sales service so it might be worth paying a little extra if you value that.

    For the card reader, you might just have to bite the bullet and go external.

    Charles
     
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  5. rogeruzun

    rogeruzun Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have external card readers now, I am using an older Sager with a UHS-I card reader, gtx 980M GPU and 6820HK CPU. But my display is only 6 bits which is not ideal for editing, and since I'm updating the one other thing I'd really like to have is a fast internal card reader.

    Seems like all the 2017 models had fast UHS-II card readers but this time around they are all slow UHS-I or even worse USB 2.0 card readers. Gigabyte and Dell seem to still have fast UHS-II readers but Sager/Clevo and MSI seemed to have taken a huge step back in that dept.
     
  6. Atma

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    The EON15-S is only 3.41 pounds. With 1060, 16gb ram and 500gb 970 EVO PCIe it is $1817. I would be tempted but not until I see a review on the cooling and I'm hoping the mobile GTX 1100 series mobile cards are out before the end of the year.
     
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    rogeruzun Notebook Enthusiast

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    Notebookcheck says the Origin is a Clevo similar to the Eurocom Q8. Origin says their 4k Panel supports 100% Adobe colorspace, and the review shows that Eurocom has a fast UHS-II card reader so I may buy the Origin 17". I don't care for 4k vs 1080p in a 17" display but I can't deal with 6 bit panels anymore. I need a decent colorspace to edit video/photos.

    If the 4K Panel supports G-Sync I may just buy one now rather than later.
     
  8. RampantGorilla

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    The EVO17-S is based on the Clevo PA71ES with Origin PC's own branding, storage and RAM options.

    You would need to call Origin PC to confirm that.

    You can just use a USB UHS II SD card reader if you want performance: https://www.sandisk.com/home/memory-cards/memory-card-readers/extremepro-sd-uhs-ii-reader-writer

    More reviews of this chassis are available below:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-evoc-pa71es-g-review.817866/
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Eurocom-Q8-i9-8950HK-GTX-1070-QHD-Laptop-Review.313514.0.html

    This laptop seems to throttle out of the box and will require some tweaking to get it to perform as it should.
     
  9. rogeruzun

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    I have external card readers now, I want to get away from that. The Origin PC seems to have a true UHS-II speed card reader so it's not an issue, it's fast.

    The panel they use is noted below. It does not have GSync but it's an 8 bit panel with good colorspace coverage. Now I have to decide whether or not I want to wait for the new NVidias.

    17.3 inch 16:9, 3840 x 2160 pixel 255 PPI, AU Optronics B173ZAN01.0 (AUO109B), IPS, UHD, AHVA, 60 Hz, Matte
     
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    I wonder how long it will be until PCIe based SD cards make it into consumer laptops
     
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    I play games on it as well, waiting for a new GPU would be for games, the effect on video or photo editing would be negligible they use the CPU for almost everything.
     
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    rogeruzun Notebook Enthusiast

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    How do you play games at 1080p on a 4k laptop? If I just set the resolution in-game to 1920x1080 is that enough, or will I see a lot of scaling artifacts. Trying that on my desktop things don't look nearly as good as they do at 4k.
     
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    Laptops do not have hardware scalers, and most desktop monitors with scalers still interpolate at half resolution. The only screens that I know of that can do 1920x1080 without ANY interpolation at being 4k native screens are some TV's.