Problem with 8600m stuttering/slowdown found

You can get them from Nvidia's driver download site.

If you pick quadro - Fx series and the 5600 fx i think
then remember to choose the right OS. Normal search should give you 162.65 and beta would be 162.67.

I do NOT use modded inf to install any driver under vista, go to device manager and update your drivere there.

 

Okey! I'll test it out.

 

UPDATE

Guys, if your on Vista give 160.03 a whirl, i reckon they might just fix stuff for you

On xp 163.67 is the way to go....in vista these suck, for vista try 160.03


download from laptopvideo2go.com


Me and thomas have tried these and very impressed, most stable, stutter free driver yet under vista for us

 

Indeed, these drivers seem to do the stability of Zeptos own 156.06 for Vista x64, but give you a more smooth and yet better average performance in games and tests like 3dmark06.

Also people using vista 32bit! try them and let us know if they do something there too, or if its only in x64.

 

I've tried it on vista 32bit, and it seems pretty smooth so far, only did a brief 15 mins run in WoW though.
I'll get back to you guys if my experience with this driver changes.

 

160.03 does NOT have powermizer, is this correct?

 

Thats good news, hope it stays smooth.

Umm not sure, but I reckon powermizer controls are implemented into vistas performance thing ; balanced, powersaver, high performance, and not into nvidia control panel.

My notebook does not seem to be any more louder or hotter with these drivers which could indicate the presence of powermizer??

 

Nice! Gonna test those drivers today!!

btw,
What exactly is Powermizer?
Should it be disabled/enabled?

 

yea give em a whirl and post back



powermizer controls your graphics cards clocks according to need. so in game it will up the clocks to maximum whre as on the desktop it will lower them down to save power, make less heat an dmake system run cooler and quieter

its implemented in vistas controls...balanced, powersaver and high performance....when on balanced try playing a game and you will see how badly it runs since the clocks are lowm even worse in powersaver

 

Will do!

Okey... I see. I have always been running on the High Performance option.

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Anyway, from my experience it's two problems

Problem 1)
The problem you are describing. With a drop from 60 to ~40 fps which can be raised for some seconds by tabbing, exactly as in the video.

Problem 2)
Overheating issue. After 2-3 hours of gaming (WoW, C&c3, UT2k4) the fps droppes from 60 to 15 in intervals. ~ every 5th minute it droppes down to 15 fps for 10-20 seconds then up to 60 again. Very annoing, since such HUGE drop is difficult to play with.


My resolutions:
Problem 1)
Using the 163.67 solved this problem for me. Gonna test the 160.03 today aswell.

Problem 2)
Using Riva Turner and Forcing Clocks on the GPU to be the same in 2D and low performance as in high performance.


To get rid of both problems is kinda difficult since I have to run 163.67, but they cant be OCed. Therefore I'm stuck with problem number 2. Which means I have to keep my notebook cool with every means possible. Like keeping the room cold or having the laptop standing on something so the air vents underneith has more room.

 

Just go back to default clocks as they were, uninstall rivatuner, install 160.03 using have disk method, put vista on high performance and see if they work.

 

it does work, great!

thanks guys for the effort, i know it's a pain to keep installing drivers and get dissapointed every time. Well this time it worked.

I have soome slowdown in GTA, but that's from the game.

Will be interesting to see how will Zepto drivers perform.
Cheers.

 

Good to hear

 

Good to hear that atleast some of the time we've put into this help people

And yes, will be very interesting to see what Zepto's driver will or will not do for us with problems.

 

Thanks to blackbird for informing me about this thread
Installed the 160.03 driver, and I run TF2 at all max. settings on 1600x1024, runs smoooooth !
Only problem is, there is no OC possible...

Conclusion: Very good driver, it solves the stuttering and gives good performance

 

Actually i think I can OC them with Ntune.

 

Hmm... tried 160.03

When Im all alone in WoW I might get 60 fps. But if I play a battleground or an arena it droppes to ~30.

These just perform bad. But the "bug" is gone. I don't get that kind of fps drop where the fps get "stuck" on ~40. It goes back to 60. But only if there isn't much happening around me in-game. But yeah... the feel is smoother. But lower fps in general.

 

Hmm, for thomas they work fine in wow as well. With these drivers do you experience the slowdown only in wow or other games as well?

Have you tried the numerous fixes listed in the wow forums for fps drops and stuttering, I can dig them up for you but right now dont have the time

 

I have to inform people that the 160.03 drivers are far from perfect. Actually they are about the WORST Tv-out drivers ive tried! :/ I get so much screentearing with them that its no fun watching it. Didnt get that with newer drivers at all.

I guess we just cant get something that just works?!...

 

I experienced something VERY strange with this driver today.
Note: that I am not sure it actually is driver related, but never seen it before.
I left my computer on this afternoon and when I returned about an hour later, my screen was filled with stripes of different gradiants of grey. Had to do a hard reboot to get it up and running again.

As I said earlier I would come back with my experiences...
I still don't have any seriou stutter, it's not completely gone, but it's way better than other drivers. With that being said, the overall performance is horrid, fps is very low overall.

Crossing my fingers for a working Zepto driver release soon.

 

havent run in on any problems yet

but i do take your word, none of the drivers are perfect each offer something good and something bad.

very dependent on zepto now for new drivers and a new 6625wd bios

 

Driver related... happens for me as well since I installed 160.03. If you go to sleep mode for example, when you try to boot up again the display fills with grey and white stripes. Hard reboot is necessary. :/

 

Thanks for confirming, I was a bit worried it could be something else

 

i really am fed up with having this problem, and would like to see a fix soon, this cant be right

 

Dont get your hopes too high.. there are reports of people having these exactly problems back to december 2006! when the 8800 was released and yet we see no fix from Nvidia.

 

I had random stutter, no matter what I did.. tried every driver, but after installing a dual core fix for XP,
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?
FamilyID=c2ab5a48-8240-4934-bbd8-34fb8a0fce3b&DisplayLang=en

My stutter is gone (so far). Before it looked like this:
----------X-----------------------X-------------------X--------
Where "x" was stutter.
I'll keep my fingers crossed it will solve my problem...
Try it out

OS: XP sp2
Asus G1S (C2D [email protected], 2GB, 8600M GT, Bios:205)
Driver: 171.23

 

this sounds promising, but do you know what would be the alternative for vista?

i've looked it up but it's not obvious,

cheers

 

there is none, vista is already optimized for dual core where as xp was not.

ive also had stuttering even after installing that fix on xp, its kind of random what solves stutter problems.

right now im on vista, everything is working smoothly with 169.61 drivers, no stutter.

only thing i did was i had stutter, went to 160.03 , got rid of stutter, updated to 163.61 and still no stutter but performance increase.

its worth mentioning my temp never exceeds 90, and the stutter i used to have wasnt constant, it would drop fps down from 40 to 10 and stay at 10 for a few seconds then climb back up to 40, stay there for 20 min, then dip down again to 10.

 

how do you keep your temp under 90?

 

did you mean 163.71, i've looked for the 61 on laptopvideo2go, couldn't find it

 

sorry i meant 169.61

 

I can tell u that zepto knows all about this problem even if they wont admit to it.. i actually made a request for then to take my computer back.
Their support told me they could fix the problem...
then i told them to take it back wich they refused.
but then i called them insisting to talk to a supervisor. and now 3 month after i have gotten my money back.

i guess they are trying to keep it down since it will be very expensive to give everyone their money back..

 

@zeez
Well they might be trying to solve the problem, however they do not do any progress. And we have hardware that does not work properly.
May I ask you after what time did you return your notebook? I have to consider the same steps...

 

I know this has been posted before but try putting your system into sleep mode and see if the stuttering still occurs afterwards.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=217075&page=3
Check this out for details.

 

Hi guys,

I've been trying out the 156.87 driver from laptopvideo2go and its working wonders. No stuttering. I have my turbo memory set to full 1GB cache for readydrive. The driver seems to max up to 104 degrees celsius. Could you guys test it to see if it works?

 

thing with older series drivers is that performance in newer games is pretty bad

 

reason why temperature is lower in older drivers, is that they perform worse... meaning the gpu wont get so hot, since work = heat its very logic that the newest and fastest drivers makes the laptops hotter and makes the laptop stutter faster.

The sleep fix is still the only way i can do anything with my laptop, still isnt as smooth as my older comp with a 7600go, but atleast i dont get the jumping back and forth gameplay we get without sleepfix.

My advice is to keep pushing Zepto, either to fix or refund! a company should not be able to get away with selling products that aint working and then just keep low profile until the next series is released which they hopefully will be better and that the people with the old model will give up...

In the long run, do yourself a favor and dont buy a zepto laptop next time.

 

True, but what causes them to stutter at 90 degrees celcius...that temp = 5 min gameplay of crysis.

 

You're wrong about the performance. The 156.87 is a RECENT mobile driver from Nvidia. It has NO stuttering and performs as well, if not better than the 174.74 or 169 series. Give it a try I'm sure you'd be surprised. I've tested it with furmark and theres no stuttering whatsoever. Crysis and CoD4 are smooth as butter

 

When I tested the 174.74 drivers I had the drivers failing all the time. It was so unstable you couldn't even play any games. However from what you say I make the assumption that it works fine on your laptop, plus there is countless others who don't have any trouble with these drivers. What I'm basically getting at is that no two computers are the same. What works for you may not work for me-even if we had the same spec hardware from the same manufacturer. So for now I'm sticking with 174.16 drivers as they are "smooth as butter for me".
Edit: I've just been to laptopvideo2go and looked these drivers. They are old.....the driver is dated 13th dec 07. Thats old in terms of nVidia drivers.

 

ah ok point taken... so what is the mobile equivalent of the 17x series of drivers?

 

I don't really know as there isn't many out yet. There is one from Clevo (they make laptops and the devices supported in their inf are mobile devices) this is the 174.33. Also Dell released one 174.31 along with acer, toshiba, asus and lenovo. So I guess there isn't any defining rules just yet. Just give them a go is all I can advise. If it works, remember it and hope that the next one you try is better, if not you can always go back to the one that worked.

 

Im running 174.60 + sleepfix, works quite good the situation taken into mind. performance is great with 174.60 though.

 

I suggest going for whql releases

174.16 / 174.53 / 174.74


Andy, could you check what temp your gpu is at during idle? I updated from 174.16 to 174.53 and am curious of any effects that transition had on the temps.

Check the temps after your notebooks been on for a while.

Thanks in advance


Also is there a way to log the gpu temp chane whilst im playing a game, since I just played UT3 for an hour and had no stuttering. After exiting the game my temp of gpu was 88 celcius. I'm wondering whether I didn't get stutter due to the temp not having reached 90 (surely it must have reached this during gameplay ?), or I have fixed my problem by cleaning dust.

 

174.31 stutter, i have tried them earlier. I found a little solution thanks to somebody (dont remember). Intall the drivers you wish, reboot, put your lappy to sleep mode, resume. No stuttering

 

The sleep fix you mean the same as me? Or a program? I suggest we write a letter to Nvidia and tell them about the sleep fix, maybe they will release a hotfix.

 

Same as you...you probs read about the sleep fix here in the zepto forums

 

well, i just tested the 159.87,well, they are old but work really good^^

 

It's been on for 3hrs and the idle temp is 53C.
I use hwmonitor version 1.06 as it lists the max temp and works with my laptop. My usual max temp when gaming for a while is 90C. I am not using the latest version of hwmonitor (1.08) as it read the temps incorrectly-it was out by about 10C with no way of setting any offset in the program.
I don't think the stuttering is down to excessive heat as the cut off point in the GPU's bios is 127C for my laptop and I don't get anywhere near that. Mind you as long as I use the "sleep fix" I don't get any stuttering. The temps are the same if I don't use the "sleep fix".

 

Hmm, my idle temp is 63 as mentioned by gpuz and hwmonitor 1.08.

I reckon 174.16 are the best of the series then