Where can I get elektronics equipment.
The price difference is not fair, and then I don't speak about the excellent customer service we are lacking.
I realy don't get it why everything is so expensive in Europe (also not that I have to pay half of my income on tax and on top of that +21% VAT if you buy anything, but that is another discussion)
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Can anyone recommend a good privacy screen/filter for this model? (The 17 inch Tongfang)
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Hello, more knowledgeable people!
I'm considering this (below) configuration - any thoughts?
I managed this setup by (can't remember exactly!) I think, clicking on one of Eluktronics' (sale!) deals which was editable - now if I try and recreate it on a new page, I'm unable to get the same for under about $1930.-
Part of my interest in this particular configuration is based on the EluktroBoost overclockability on the RTX 2060, the discounted 2yr warranty and the higher quality paste on this build, not to mention the positive reviews regarding full-load running temps, decent build quality and - yes, it's strange - the USB 2.0, which I was looking for for jailbreaking an older phone (Nokia 808 PureView).
MECH-17 G1RX SLIM & LIGHT LAPTOP (INTEL I7-9750H, NVIDIA 2060 RTX, 512GB PCIE SSD + 16GB RAM)
Intel Core i7-9750H (2.6-4.5GHz 12MB Cache)
6GB GDDR6 NVIDIA® GeForce RTX 2060 [+$200] (Factory overclocks up to 115 Watts)
YesEluktronics Stitched Edge Soft Surface Mousepad - Large [FREE]
Eluktronics Luminosa Gaming Mouse with 3389 Sensor [FREE] ($69.95 Value! Limited time offer)
Cool Laboratory Liquid Ultra CPU & CM MasterGel Maker GPU Thermal Compound Upgrade [$+35]
2 Year Eluktronics Warranty [+$99] ($150 Value! Limited time offer
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https://www.eluktronics.com/MECH-17-G1R-CLEARTrogloLite likes this. -
I thought that the speakers didn’t chamged and that the ‘better’ sound will come to the 8th gen CPU devices as well.
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It's as a good deal as it gets tbh. The chassis has completely spoiled me and Eluktronics seem to be the most knowledgeable on it.
The fact, it's the main chassis they're pushing shows that they're not messing around. I've had a few 8750h laptops, and this chassis is the only one that gets me 1300 score on Cinebench r15 and high scores in other benchmarks as well as really good performance in other games/programs.
I'm definitely aiming for this company on my next upgrade (RTX focused).SlickDragon, Bauble and TrogloLite like this. -
My reasoning was influenced by the extra $200.- I'd be paying to go up to the 2070 - as I figured that the EBoost would cover some of that ground at no cost, while giving access (over the 1660ti) to future games/applications that will benefit from ray tracing or DLSS - though I'm aware that this card with current software, isn't going to fare well when pushed to utilize those capabilities!
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Looks like Bob of All Trades will be reviewing "two of Electrolux's finest" in a bit, according to his most recent YouTube post!
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8750h in combo with RTX2070 is ondeed a better deal then 9750h with RTX2060 for gaming.
The CPU gain is much less then gain in GPU. In Europe it looks like you don’t have that option anymore.TrogloLite likes this. -
I'll always put my money on a better GPU than a CPU. As it is I was barely making full use of the 7th gen i7 before so personally I went for GPU. If you were set on getting the 9th gen I'd personally wait to see how the temps hold up with the new configuration.
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Anyone got the new 2080 MaxQ variant?
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Side note: Still waiting for a company willing to sell keycaps for our TF laptops (most of them are only for customers rn needing replacements) or just provide the 3D models of keycaps.
If anyone knows how to get 3D files extracted from this site, http://bto.mechrevo.com/customize
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Have my new Eluktronics Mech 17g1rx, with 9750h and 1660ti. Pretty great so far, only issue is speakers are pretty bleh at best.. Wonder if i need to install the new bios for them, or if it is even OUT yet. Either way so far its the only issue, keyboard is great, colors are dope, cool as can be (will have to do temp tests when i have more time, but MasterGel upgrade was worth it forsure).
Edit- Also no idea what model number i am under the Bios updates on Eluktronics website. None of those models are visible anywhere in system info, the underside of the laptop, nor the manual
Edit 2- Dont believe there is any Bios updates for my model. My guess is there is NO bios besides the stock one released yet. Presumably the alleged speaker improvement Bios has yet to arrive.Last edited: May 7, 2019TrogloLite, Installed64 and Riktar like this. -
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I would pit Eluktronics’ 2070 against Cyberpower’s 2080 max-q. The 2080 will run slightly cooler I think, but performance will be similar.SlickDragon likes this. -
Shame there is no 2080MQ and 2070 performance comparison
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I've been playing with RTX development. Also good way to test the 1060 gtx version:
I'll have an executable if anyone is interested. Also any requests on a good rtx test map.
edit: More progress
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Laptop has been pretty solid so far, keyboard takes a bit getting used to if you never used a Mechanical Keyboard, but has a lot of potential. Weight and size are really quite compact considering the cooling potential. Speaking of cooling, multiple Aida 64 stress tests went quite well with a moderate undervolt of .113 to Cpu Core and Cache (haven't pushed it to its limit yet), and no Gpu undervolt (yet).
Here is with Turbo mode with Fan Boost enabled (not even that loud and obnoxious, but generally unneeded and the laptop is really noise friendly. Besides for stress tests, had not even HEARD the fans all day using it with web browser, videos etc), 5+ minute stress test after stress test, this one with Aida 64 Gpu + Cpu.
i7 9750h Cpu maintained constant 3.99ghz on all cores (4ghz), but finally noticed a dip down to 3.8ghz for a second. Temps were generally in the 80's, briefly breached 90 on a couple cores as max. The 1660ti Gpu at 1875 mhz + (no Oc/Uv) never got more than 71, and was generally in the high 60's.
Besides for the speakers which are underwhelming at best (really need that alleged Bios update for the speakers..), it has been a banging laptop so far for $1275 with the newegg deal +Master Gel thermal upgrade.
Edit- First Firestrike benchmark ive done, turbo mode used , -113uv on cpu, STOCK gpu
A few cinebench runs back to back, all in high 126x range, with -.113 Uv, temps never got outa low 60 range, screenshot was as soon as it finished but it immediately dropped down to 40's.Last edited: May 7, 2019Arondel, Bauble, Installed64 and 3 others like this. -
Firestrike score is a significant jump over my GTX 1060!
16601 vs. 16919 physics score
12215 vs. 15590 graphics score
Not bad at all.
There are some audio tweaks you can make with the Soundblaster software, have you done that yet? (Search this thread)SlickDragon likes this. -
But yeh remember this firemark of 1660 ti with a15590 graphics score was stock with no UV, however it was with TurboBoost, so seemingly using the extra 10 watts (need a program to calculate wattage used of gpu since i dont see it on gpu-z, nor aida64extreme, nor cpuid hwmonitor..)- https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/35936774?
Here is a stock score with the normal gaming mode, so just 80 watts on the 1660 ti. Nearly exact same cpu score (1 point difference), but down to 14780. Cpu max low 70's, and gpu never got out of the high 50's which is pretty amazing - https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/35943397?That is just 100 points off the stock score of 14883 that Nvidia officially touted when it announced 1660 ti coming to laptops. So one gets over a 5.4% increase by activating the TurboBoost increased wattage on the Gpu, and there is literally no cost or downside that i can find. Fans are the same adaptive mode as Gaming, so will scale based on temps, and if they are reasonable it will stay near silent. And its literally just a button away to get the over 5% performance boost for Free. I'd imagine its possible though that the gap will increase if one is overclocking/undervolting, with the 90 watt boost allowing it to get more out of it.
Based on my first impressions with TurboBoost, id say that the graphic card that gets the most benefit out of it should easily be the Rtx 2060. Going from the base of 80 watts (a pathetic 50% of its desktop reference 160 watts) all the way up to 115 watts with TurboBoost (a much more reasonable near 72%) will drastically increase its performance.
And no i havent touched soundblaster yet, was worried about all the driver issues with it i had read about, and didnt want to/expect to need to touch it, but seemingly the Bios update for the improved speakers isn't out yet, so may have no choice. I did catch some of those posts discussing software tweaks, but that was like weeks ago when this laptop was not a top option for me, so didnt exactly internalize them.
Few more minor things to watch out for with the laptop-
1) I like the big mouse trackpad, but its really easy to get a hand caught on it while typing, which can lead to the mouse wobbling all over the place. On the plus side one can easily turn off the mouse by double tapping the top left of it, but that isnt exactly ideal if typing. Still maybe over time it will be easier to get a hand placement that does not interfere much with the trackpad.
2) Build quality is pretty dam good and its sturdy, and even feels a bit sleek and dare i say sexy. That being said the left and right front corners of the thing are pretty deadly sharp and pointy. I'd be wary about having them knock into a vulnerable spot, since it will really hurt...Last edited: May 7, 2019Arondel, TrogloLite, undervolter0x0309 and 2 others like this. -
Thanks for the input so far. In regards to the audio, the BIOS on any 9th gen equipped system already has the updated tweeks to the speakers. You will need to finish it off with the Sound Blaster software. We can not pre-install the Sound Blaster software because it's an appxbundle that the consumer must download and install upon receipt. The system is already licensed for the Sound Blaster so there will not be any issue there.
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A bit disconcerting that this IS the bios improved version, but maybe i just need the soundblaster to get it where they need to be, and then it won't be an issue. When i installed windows i saw something about realtek being installed, and assumed that was the drivers for the sound. What you are saying is actually encouraging. So all i have to do is install the Sound Blaster software? Can i get a link to exactly what i should install? There are plenty of people that could use the mini tutorial on how to improve the speakers. Ideally at some point there would be a good youtube video showing the before and after and steps to take to get it the best it can be.
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I'm waiting for Bob to launch the reviews of the Electrolux devices to order a Tongfang.
I don't know yet if I will order a RTX2060 or 2070. Cooling wise, the RTX2060 uses a lot less power and should be a tad more quiet, I was very happy with the RTX2070mq performance on the clevo, so I don't need more power at all.
Is there any change we can use the Electrolux bios on other resellers devices? Not for the boost of GPU but for the sound, or is that coming to all devices anyway?
It's such a bummer that importing from overseas is so expensive. I would like to order from such a customer oriented company.TrogloLite likes this. -
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If anyone needs the link to force Sound Blaster Connect/5 to show up: https://www.microsoft.com/store/productId/9N66RLJRT8Z2
Sometimes, SB5 will not have an option to start on start up, you'll have to manually add it to the start up list. Just hit Win+E and use this address %APPDATA%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
There are ways to stack sound enhancers with each other without licenses but it's not a really good solution and might have increased CPU usage.Last edited: May 8, 2019SlickDragon, LamsonMusic and Installed64 like this. -
Hello,
I've been looking for a new laptop and this model is very interesting.
I've read somewhere that in the 9750h model the 2.5inch HDD is replaced by a bigger battery, can someone confirm this?
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The default in the Walmart OP's was the smaller battery, but the default in the Eluktronics Mech-17 is the larger battery.
In both cases, there is an open m.2 slot so that you can still expand the storage.Steerty and SlickDragon like this. -
Tracer 17S 600 with 2070 + 9750h is now $1699
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While gaming on Dolphin emulator using TurboBoost and FanBoost, with Hwinfo64 to monitor, i noticed that the 1660ti Gpu wasn't pulling over 80-82 watts, generally 10 watts off from the 90 watts it is supposed to reach... This was with a whopping +200 core and +1000 memory overclock via afterburner. To ensure i would bottleneck the Gpu i used 8x Resolution or 5k, as well as 8x SSAA, and the gpu load was at constant 100% load and frame rates were in the dust (as they should be with absolute max graphic settings that are unneeded). Yet it still didn't pull the alleged 90 watts from EluktroBoost. This was with Gpu temps in the low 60's at max, so was clearly Power Limit throttled at 80watts. Maybe somehow I'm doing something wrong, but i don't think so -
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Of note is that with heavy combined Load of Cpu and Gpu, even with TurboBoost the Cpu power limit throttled down to 55 watts and ultimately 50 watts (which is atleast above 45 watts that most other laptops are limited to under combined load), causing the core clocks of 4 ghz on all cores to go down to as low as 3.5ghz. This is with a well above average stable undervolt of -130mv. Temps were great with the cpu though (even with over 10++ minute stress tests) at max mid 80's on a couple cores, with rest only in low 80's at maxLast edited: May 9, 2019Installed64, Bauble, undervolter0x0309 and 1 other person like this. -
I'd really like the larger battery option but sadly I'm located in Europe and haven't been able to track one down at reasonable prices.
I've looked at https://www.pcspecialist.be/notebooks/recoil-III-rtx-17/ and https://laptopparts4less.frl/17.3in...2070-8Gb-Coffee-Lake-game-laptop-samenstellen
and while definitely the cheapest options, they don't offer the larger capacity. Other retailers charge 2000+ euros so definitely not an option.
I've also contacted one of them to see if they can offer the larger battery one but they didn't even know it existed.
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Before you import be sure of your end price.
If you import from US, you need to add sales tax, import tax and probs a custom handling tax as well. That will eat up all the advantage in price.Steerty likes this. -
True, I'll check out what options I have. hell, looking at flight ticket prices I might even go pickup one myself lol. I'll wait a month or so to see if a retailer here doesn't lower their prices/get the larger battery.
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You don't want to have to pay the price difference as calculated by those guys, on top of your flight ticket!Steerty likes this. -
It's strange to me that they can't pre-install it at the factory. They should at least include a paper insert in each laptop sold that recommends the exact software that improves the audio.monroe1, SlickDragon, Riktar and 1 other person like this. -
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This is the bigger battery itself, available in Europe.Steerty likes this. -
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Do the same thing Sean does in this video:
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TONGFANG GK7CN6S / GK7CP0S / GK7CP7S
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