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    The Compal IFL90 (PowerPro J 10:15) is now available for PRE-ORDER with SHIPPING BEGINNING MID-JUNE

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by Donald@Paladin44, May 19, 2007.

  1. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

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    I think dealers NEED to start making the distinction between the 8600GS and 8600GT... I find it kind of absurd how a "Complete specs list" and even a "preorder form" can list the video card as just 8600M where one subvariant is something like 25% more powerful than the other.
     
  2. Tim

    Tim Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah I asked that question a while back min2209 but no one has answered me so far.

    I wonder if the IFL00 will have the same amount of choice as the IFL90.
    Tim
     
  3. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    Thanks for replying to my question, Esther.
     
  4. pyro9219

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    Please keep in mind you are complaining about a dealing knowing about a system that hasn't shipped yet. They don't design the specs, so you can't expect them to know for sure. The ODM's don't always specify either because the sales folk that deal with the reseller don't always know either =P

    Save this complaint for machines that are shipping, the dealers aren't out to get you, if they were, they would say all their system's come with GT versions, even the onboard chips :)
     
  5. chrisyano

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    I understand the frustration in not knowing which GPU the new Compals are going to ship with exactly. As pyro stated above, the reason the questions haven't been answered yet is that the resellers themselves are not 100% sure.

    Imagine if they said it were going to be the GT...only to end up with the GS. Many of you would be quite unhappy with them, since "they promised me the GT a month ago."
     
  6. ohmide

    ohmide Notebook Geek

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    Any word on when the pre-orders will start for the IFL00?
     
  7. silvermaan

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    Sorry if this has already been answered in here, but I just couldnt find it:

    Do the PowerPro J 10:15's that the OP linked ship with the 512 mb 8600 GT or GS?
     
  8. Donald@Paladin44

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    At this point no one in the US knows exactly which variant of the video card is in the PowerPro J 10:15. You can rest assured that once the mystery is solved we will announce it here.

    The way nVIDIA works with ODM's is that they provide the basic card and the ODM then conforms it to their laptop model. So the fact is that what you see in any laptop may well be a variation and not conform to the G - GS or GT specifications that nVIDIA states on their website.

    I do have a question for those who are interested in this, and for those claiming that the GT is 25% more powerful than the GS. Where are you getting your information?

    I notice that the core and shader clock speeds are quite a bit less in the GT than in the GS while the memory clock speed is the same, and the GT has double the Stream Processors (32/16). So, what links can you give us that will support the theory that the GT is that much better than the GS?
     
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    At this time there is no word on when, or even IF, the IFT00/01 will be brought in to the US.

    We won't know more about this subject until at least mid-June, but the division of Compal in the US (Bizcom) is saying at this point that they do not plan to bring it in.
     
  10. csinth

    csinth Snitch?

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    That is a bummer
     
  11. taelrak

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    What's the IFL90 made out of anyway?
     
  12. ohmide

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    I'll say, I guess a Zepto is one of the few 14" that has the 8600GT then.
     
  13. Donald@Paladin44

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    At this time Zepto is not in the US market.

    Don't lose hope...there is still a chance the IFT00 will come in to the US, it is just that we won't know that for sure until around mid-June.
     
  14. Goren

    Goren Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    I sure hope so, it looks like the centrino pro 14" barebone market in the US is empty.

    it seems that there are pics of the IFT00 on bizcom's site.
     
  15. _bare

    _bare Notebook Consultant

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    Do you think this laptop will be provide better performance than say... the Asus G1S?
     
  16. ladip63

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    Can't wait for a review, but then I don't think I can wait. This time I'm going to take the plung and get one :D Even if I do go broke :D
    Lynn
     
  17. Tim

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    Yeah Lynn I think I will go broke too. :p
    Tim
     
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    satdog Notebook Evangelist

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    omg...omg... please don't say the IF00 is not going to available. I have been waiting for that ever since it was announced. Oh god
     
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    Hmmm, if it doesn't come out I might just have to settle for a W3J.
     
  20. ohmide

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    Yes I'll just keep waiting; hopefully some manufacturer will get with the program and see that there is indeed a large market for 14" gaming machines.
     
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    You have got to be kidding me....Why would they *not* bring it? The HGL30 did pretty well, this being the successor, one would expect this to do pretty well also...

    So that leaves the successor to the Asus A8Js as the only truly portable (14") gaming machine. Not really a bad thing, but choice and competition is always good. I think Zepto should come in to the US market too...
     
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    Wow, they are currently not planning to bring the IFT00 to the US? That's disappointing, but hopefully things will change there.

    You have to be convincing next time you talk to them, Donald ;).
     
  23. pgatz11

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    These aren't the droids you're looking for.
     
  24. ohmide

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    lol, you bet they're not :p
     
  25. Nicke

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    Epic and Win.
     
  26. lemur

    lemur Emperor of Lemurs

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    You can say that again! I'm looking for a new laptop these days. One of the issues I need to figure out for myself is whether I ought to get a laptop that I can use to carry around and for gaming or whether I should continue with my current setup: a laptop that I carry around and a desktop computer for gaming. I know that nothing beats a desktop computer for gaming but I'm not a hardcore gamer who needs the best rig on the market. On the other hand, I don't want to turn off all extra rendering so that the game will work. For instance, my desktop computer is able to run HL2 with most details turned on but won't go at super high resolutions and some of the extra eye candy must be turned off (like the ultra realistic water effects). My old Inspiron 600m was never able to run it even with all extras turned off.

    So the last time I bought a laptop, the state of technology and the prices involved made it so that there was no question I had to keep the desktop around. But for my next laptop, I can realistically think of ditching the desktop. The one stumbling block I found was that most laptop with the kind of rendering power I would want are available only in 17". Here's the problem: I do not want to carry a 17" laptop around! That's a total deal breaker. The best thing for me would be a 14" laptop (or maybe a little bigger) with good rendering power so that I have a machine that I can carry around fairly easily. Then, when I come home, I can hook it up to a larger monitor and play games.

    So yes yes yes! They need to bring those 14" gaming machines into the US!
     
  27. acersales

    acersales Notebook Consultant

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    and why dont you get a MINI PC? or one of those apple mini computers?

    they are like a shoe box (i mean in size :D )
     
  28. Donald@Paladin44

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    Guys...this thread is not about the IFT00...is this called Hijacking? :D

    They only reason they are considering not bringing them in is that the HGL30 did not do well enough for them...they are about huge numbers and while the HGL30 was fairly popular, it only represented about 15-20% of what the HEL80 did.

    But don't worry...I am using my Jedi mind tricks to make it happen and we will know one way or another sometime in June. Stay peaceful until then :)
     
  29. pyro9219

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    Let's all hope the force is strong with this one :D
     
  30. satdog

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    count me in :)
    if not IF90 it is
     
  31. ohmide

    ohmide Notebook Geek

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    Here is a quick related question:

    Is the 1GB Intel Turbo Memory (Robson) the same thing as having a 1GB USB Key dedicated to that whole ReadyBoost feature? Or is this something different?
     
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    I was wondering with the IFL90 is Vista 32 bit or 64 bit the better route?
     
  33. pyro9219

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    ReadyBoost is different. It's actually configured differently since the system knows it will always be there.
     
  34. Tim

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    I wonder if Robson is upgradeable...
    Like say you get the 1GB version now but in the next year the come out with 2GB version...I wonder if you could swap those out.
    Tim
     
  35. FREN

    FREN Hi, I'm a PC. NBR Reviewer

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    I'm pretty sure something like Robson would be on the motherboard. I doubt it.
     
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    Does the IFL90 have an ESATA port and HDMI or DVI output?
     
  37. pyro9219

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    Robson is built on mini-pci boards like wifi/tv-tuners , so in theory yes, it would be upgradeable if Intel started packaging something of a different capacity.

    "Robson is the code name for a new Intel® platform technology that uses non-volatile memory (Flash memory) to increase system responsiveness, make multi-tasking faster, and extend battery life. Robson technology will be available on Intel’s forthcoming Santa Rosa platform—the next-generation mobile platform building on the power savings and performance benefits of Intel® Centrino® mobile technology. Robson technology is designed to support two new features of the upcoming Microsoft Vista* operating system: ReadyBoost* and ReadyDrive* technologies." - Intel Website.

    Robson works with standard flash NAND chips anywhere from 64MB to 4GB in size. 1GB is considered the sweetspot though for price / performance.
     
  38. ohmide

    ohmide Notebook Geek

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    Does "any" laptop have an ESATA port? I haven't ever seen it.
     
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    The Asus G1S does.
     
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    I am also wondering why I don't see DVI out on this notebook. Surely this multimedia notebook must come with one. I can understand no HDMI, even though it would be a shame considering this is the first of very few new notebooks that would be able to take advantage of that feature, but come on.. there has be a DVI port..
     
  41. pyro9219

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    Given the looks I'm thinking this machine is being marketed towards a business group... That being the case, many companies have conference rooms with projectors that have VGA, but not DVI inputs.

    That's my guess.
     
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    What does the Arctic Silver and bluetooth do exactly?
     
  43. ohmide

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    Arctic Silver is the paste that is used for the processor. I personally don't think it's worth it becasue the whole system is under a 3 year warranty.

    Bluetooth is to connect to bluetooth wireless devices like headphones, mice, cell phones, etc.
     
  44. evilmechy

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    Ah ic, kk. Thanks.
     
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    Arctic Silver is a little more complicated then what the last user stated. It's used as a better thermal compound so your machine is able to run at a lower temperature. While the system is under a 3 year warranty certainly means if the machine breaks it will be fixed, the temperature of your processor can have an impact on your battery life (warmer means more fan cooling), it impacts how comfortable the machine will be to use ( both in your lap, and on the top side where you rest your hands), as well as can impact the total lifespan of your hardware. Most people upgrade before this would be a problem, but some people are in this for the long haul.

    If you check with the vendor they often run special pricing on the upgrade, so it's worth calling and asking about when you are ready to make a purchase. Also check with the vendor, because the upgrade also applies to the graphics card(s) on many machines, which is beneficial once again for the above reasons.
     
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    Hmm.. If I just leave the laptop on the desk, I probably wouldn't need to keep the battery in right? I'm also mainly playing 3d games, etc WoW and others. I'm also getting it in mid July instead of preordering now. What would you guys suggest? Should I get it with the Arctic Silver or not. I'm not sure... >.<
     
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    This may be a stupid question.

    But why does the arctic silver upgrade cost so much? A full tube of the thermal compound goes for something like $6 dollars. And the amount used for one installation is no more than 1/10th of a tube MAX. So that would make it 60 cents worth of material...
     
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    Donald I have a question for you. :p

    Do you think you will sell out of the IFL90 this summer? I need a laptop before school starts in August and it seems like this will be a hot seller.

    By the way, expect a phone call from me sometime this week. I need to order this baby. :D
    Tim
     
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    There may be some short periods when we could be sold out, but we will be getting new shipments from week to week, and we do expect this model to be the biggest seller this summer, so hopefully our supply will stand up to the demand.

    I will be here to serve you whenever you are ready!
     
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