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    Virtualization (Round 2)

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by MBaran, Aug 14, 2007.

  1. MBaran

    MBaran Notebook Geek

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    Its been a long time since my last post, but I'm wondering if stuff has changed.

    Any way to enable virtualization on the Compal BIOS'es, specifically the HGL30.

    Would be really nice to get Parallels to run full speed in OSx and I know it would help out linux guys.

    ??

    the new bios rev's have no details, has it been added?
     
  2. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Ummm...OSX on non-apple hardware? That discussion is not allowed on the forums.

    Anyway, if the BIOS option is not there you have no way to enable it. Most vendors, if the updated it, did so silently and did not announce it. I would recommend you just back up all your data and try to update your BIOS to see for yourself.
     
  3. MBaran

    MBaran Notebook Geek

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    right.. thats what i said already..

    which is why I asked fellow users, if after performing an upgrade, they saw, or were able to use virtualization, those running linux distros might know firsthand..
     
  4. barspi

    barspi Notebook Consultant

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    what kind of viirtualization are you talking about?
    please send us some links to read up :)
     
  5. MBaran

    MBaran Notebook Geek

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    Virtualization is a technology built into the core2duo that allows the processor to run a seperate task in protected space which would let an operating system emulate another operating system directly on the processor instead of translating the code, which may be x86 to x86. This would let you run virtual pc with linux at 99 percent of full speed ontop of vista or xp.
     
  6. Mippoose

    Mippoose Notebook Deity

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    ^ I didn't understand that at all.
     
  7. MBaran

    MBaran Notebook Geek

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    when you run an OS ontop of another OS (linux ontop of XP) it has to still translate all of the code and fool the processor into thinking it is code run from the emulation program (vmware, virtual pc)

    the new c2d processor allows these programs to send the guest operating system code directly to the processor for processing. thus increasing the speed to almost native speed.

    This makes it run much much faster than when the code is being translated into other code to run in "protected" space. This is where the processor wont let other unsigned code run, because it assumes it to be a virus or malicious code.
     
  8. FFZERO

    FFZERO Notebook Evangelist

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    You do not need to enabled the VT's option in the bios for the hgl30 (there is no option). I am currently running 114a bios on my hgl30 and am running XP Pro on Ubuntu using vmware server with no problem. Speed wise, its a little slower but manageable. I am using Xp for music conversion (itune) and multimedia fusion 2 (application/game creator). I can run fan-made games without too much lag.

    Since we are talking about virtualization and the hardware board did not respond to my post:

     
  9. MBaran

    MBaran Notebook Geek

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    but with VT these things would run faster. I know that VT isnt working, but I cannot make mention of it on this board (legal reasons) but VT isnt working and things would run more smoothly with VT turned on in the bios.
     
  10. FFZERO

    FFZERO Notebook Evangelist

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    Smoother as in native speed smoother? As I mention in my post, when I run XP, there is virtually no lag and I can use the os as if its my main but the virtual os does noticeably run a bit slower compare to a full fledge active XP. When gaming, you will notice the difference but then again, you do not run an virtualized XP just to game. Also, the T5500, sadly, does not support VT but I still manage to run a virtual OS at a good speed. If your Txxxx support VT, then I would assume (don't quote me on this) VT will automatically be enable or at least have the option to do so.
     
  11. MBaran

    MBaran Notebook Geek

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    with VT it should run at 99% native.. the lag should only be noticible with large cpu operations.

    what BIOS rev. are you using..

    I will try it out and see if it updates the VT flag to yes in the intel CPUID tool..
     
  12. FFZERO

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    114a, only flash the bios if you really want to or know what to do when you bricked your notebook. Please post back with an update. If you have the option to turn VT on then I may consider an processor upgrade.

    Another suggestion, you can try out vmware server and install whatever OS you want to try and see if the speed is manageable. As I mention in my other post, I am currently using the T5500 which does not support VT and can still run virtual XP with little to no lag. Cache does not exceed 81%, no matter what I do in XP (include gaming and itune's music conversion).