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    Windows Vista on Compal HEL80

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by BryanTheCrow, Oct 25, 2006.

  1. BryanTheCrow

    BryanTheCrow Newbie

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    I was just wondering if anyone has tried to put Vista on the HEL80 yet? Compal's site already has all the drivers available for the 32bit version: http://www.compal.com/asp/driver_dnd/index.htm (look under EL80).

    My new HEL80 gets here on Friday (all possible specs maxed out), but I wanted to see if any of you have tried putting Vista RC1 on it, and if any issues have come up...

    Thanks,
    Bryan Crow
     
  2. l33t_c0w

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    Sure have. It was a little bit ago, and I didn't do a whole lot with it, but I did wind up grabbing a video driver from laptop2go, and sound drivers from realtek's site to address an issue with no sound coming from the headphone jack.

    I imagine with those drivers it'll be smooth sailing for you.
     
  3. arskii

    arskii Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have Vista RC2 on my HEL80, but I haven't used it so much. For some reason the Aero environment doesn't work. The hardware should be more than enough to run it.

    And Aero is: "Windows Vista Aero provides spectacular visual effects such as glass-like interface elements that you can see through.".
     
  4. eXcellent

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    Yes, i have used Vista. Now RC2 installed. Works good!

    Look this site for Vista drivers http://www.bizcom-us.com/support/TechSupportDriversDownloadPage.htm#EL80
     
  5. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    You probably need to get the correct graphics driver on it.
     
  6. eXcellent

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    ....And what display drivers you use? You must install another drivers to get Aero works. For excamples http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=11477
    after downloads drivers(then extract), download also "modded inf " -file and replace original(from extracted file). Then normal Install. That drivers for RC2 or newest. Then should Aero works. Mine works. Use your own risk...!

    What performance scores you got with test in Vista? Mine 4,5 scores. Before those drivers it was 1,0. Aero doesn't work. After install Aero works well. Vista also.
     
  7. arskii

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    \o/ Aero is now working!! I had the right drivers, but I didn't know that there was somekind of performance score. I just pressed the update button and score went from 1 to 4,4. Just had to restart computer and now my Vista is looking VERY cool! I have a feeling that Aero might have a negative impact on battery-life..
     
  8. Undead Cheese

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    Speaking of that, how much have the Vista users here seen the new OS affect their battery life?
     
  9. EnginBERK

    EnginBERK Newbie

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    I am a system manufacturarer from istanbul/turkey.
    and I bought 10 Compal HEL80.

    I think it supports Windows Vista.

    wonderful :)
     
  10. plzlisn

    plzlisn Notebook Enthusiast

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    hey any of you guys trying the new Windows Vista also have the TV-Tuner on your Compal? If so does it work with the Windows Vista Media Center?
     
  11. troll

    troll Notebook Guru

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    At 23h, Lisbon time, u will have an answer.

    troll
     
  12. porkster

    porkster Notebook Enthusiast

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    anyone get battlefield 2 working on vista? Mine looks like it is gonna start, screen flashes black then just stops. Tried running as admin, and xp compatibility mode, same results. I have all the vista drivers installed from bizcom.
    EasyInfo says operating system failed cause its not xp and nvidea geforce 7600 and display driver say unknown compatibility.
     
  13. plzlisn

    plzlisn Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well I asked this question under TV Tuner but thought it might be more appropiate for this thread, so sorry for the duplicate.

    Has anyone had any success in getting the TV Tuner to work under Vista?

    I tried loading the Software in the Windows XP compatiblity mode but still got an error message saying it was a wrong operating system.

    I imagine the driver are loaded fine I see no yellow exclamation marks in the Device Manager and the device is listed.

    So any ideas?

    Also had problems loading the Wireless software. Anybody have success in doing that? The wireless card works, just can't load the software.
     
  14. pyro9219

    pyro9219 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    /envisions some ancient looking voodoo woman/
    Dem bee some baadddd juju dat vista! da bones do'en like hows de MS do'en ditched der kernel architecture 'cause dem knows it was baaaddd! Sted dem replaced der ways wit more badddd juju! *hiss*
     
  15. plzlisn

    plzlisn Notebook Enthusiast

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    Got the Tv tuner to work in Vista using Cyberpower Cinema 4.0, well sort of the TV, Full screen & Close App. buttons still do not work on the Remote.
     
  16. chrisyano

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    I'm pretty sure the TV tuner was made with XP in mind. Vista support is not fully in place yet, so it may be a while before you find something to solve these issues.

    Good luck with your search.
     
  17. Viriiguy

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    Being an IT Pro I have been forced to run Vista for the last few months.
    However, if you are not an IT Pro, I would stay the heck away from Vista. At least, until the first service pack. I am sure many of you have been around long enough to follow Microsoft's path of destruction whenever a new OS comes out.

    Vista is not currently, imho user ready. There are still far too many things that just do not work like they should. And if you wait til SP1... say 6 months, the drivers you seek wil be readily available.

    Just my 2 Cents.
     
  18. pyro9219

    pyro9219 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    I'm personally not moving to Vista.... XP was a good enough experience while it lasted ;) But I've been re-learning Linux, and re-testing the waters over there, and I've been very happy. I also think things are going to turn for the better very fast in the year to come from all the linux conferences here in Portland that actually have been drawing attention and paving a foundation for development.

    Anyways, I think this is only worth .5 cent, but much like Linux, conforming to measurable standards is required for mass user compatibility, so I give it 1 cent... :D
     
  19. aznron911

    aznron911 Notebook Consultant

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    Are there new drivers made for Windows Vista? I just installed it and I got a Windows Score of 4.4. What are you guys getting on this computer. Thanks!
     
  20. chrisyano

    chrisyano Hall Monitor NBR Reviewer

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    I'm going to merge this thread with the other thread about Vista on the HEL80.
     
  21. TC03

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    Problem with Vista; the audio doesn't automatically switch from internal speakers to the audio line out when speakers or headphones are plugged in. Anyone there who knows why?
     
  22. Golluk

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    just picked up vista business 64, for free from school, so I guess I'll give it a go. and if it sucks, I'll use that spare system partition to try out linux
     
  23. Brianj

    Brianj Notebook Geek

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    I'm running the 32-bit version for now. I tried Windows XP X64 and it ran fine, but did have some issues. Most of my software is still 32-bit, so that's why I tried that on Vista.

    So far, I like it. Use the updated drivers on Bizcom's site.
     
  24. TC03

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    Wireless Select Switch and Sidewalker don't work :(.
     
  25. Brianj

    Brianj Notebook Geek

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    The Wireless Select Switch works for me... x32

    I don't use Sidewalker
     
  26. TC03

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    WSS won't install for me.
     
  27. Chomes

    Chomes Newbie

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    Yersteday I installed Windows vista ultimate x64 with a dual boot with windows xp pro sp2. This is ok.

    But I encountered 3 major problems:
    1st- The graphic card is bad identified. It appears as geforce 7600Go with 256mb, and also 271mb of shared memory, ram memory.I tried diferents drivers with the same result.
    2nd- The touch pad driver isn't signed so at every startup you have to allow access, not a major isue.
    3rd- Quite important for me, I've been using omnipass since i bought the computer but now with version 5 it's says its trialware, do we have to buy a copy, or the're is a possibility of upgrade?

    Thanks in andvance.
     
  28. iamfrontosa

    iamfrontosa Notebook Enthusiast

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    SO far vista is running very smoothly no problems. I'm pretty sure it actually resolved a couple issues.

    A) the very low sound I use to have even at 100 % is now allot louder.

    and

    B) when using the headphone jack, I'm pretty sure there is no more quiet high pitch noise in the background. (especially when it was unplugged from wall)


    Anyone else notice these two things?

    jonFREY
     
  29. Darkdragon541

    Darkdragon541 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Which Vista???? Ultimate???? And the drivers u used were from compal.com??
     
  30. Darkdragon541

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    is all ultimate edition of vista 64 bit???
     
  31. iamfrontosa

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    I have windows vista business, I'm pretty sure 32 bit. My brother was able to download it for free from his college. I did install the drivers from compal but the headphone jack didn't work when my headphones were plugged in so I went to realtek? and installed the latest vista driver and it then worked. It made me happy and I went to bed with a smile.
     
  32. Darkdragon541

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    oh ok im gettin ultimate i wanna know how good it runs and its cons
     
  33. destilert

    destilert Newbie

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    Hey

    I really need help here..My Hel80 just arrived. I ordered vista along with it. Only problem is that the computer cant seem to find the go7600, and only half of the ram.. I ordered 2gb, but it only shows 1gb. Anyone got any suggestions?

    As well I tried to instal the drivers for the go7600 for the driver cd, but it can just be installed on xp,not on vista I dunno what to do and I really need some help!



    EDIT: at the top of it, trying to install the driver from nvidia, Windows Vista 32-bit RTM, I got an error telling me this program was to used on Vista, and that my computer was not running Vista. >.< Man, I am rather confused right now. One thing is for sure though, I am running Vista and nothing else.. Did a clean instal just a minute ago..
    -destilert

    sorry for doubleposting but I really need some help here :(
     
  34. smcgil9899

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    Hello. I have upgraded to Vista on my notebook and my headphone jack would not work. I downloaded the up-to-date Realtek drivers for Vista and installed. Now I have audio, but it is only through the left side of my headphones. What Can I do to fix this. Thanks. I have a Velocity Micro HEL80 notebook.
     
  35. pyro9219

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    All you people rushing out to get Vista... haven't there been enough post's across the Internet and on the news about all the problems? Vista was released before it was truly ready.... They do it with every O/S release and nobody but people trying to make money off Vista will truly recommend you buy it till SP1.
     
  36. Donald@Paladin44

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    Amen pyro9219...well said.

    We recommend SP1 at the earliest.

    Besides, what does Vista have that is so important...I mean where's the beef?
     
  37. chrisyano

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    Have to agree with pyro and paladin on this. And with MS already working on Vista's successor (for '09), I may never use Vista.
     
  38. pyro9219

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    I find this very cute... How am I supposed to have faith in the O/S when MS already has plans to ditch it.. and not like a small 9x to ME change.. but a complete overhaul because they knew this wasn't gonna hack it for alot of people.

    The only "WoW" I see in Vista is the "Wow I can't believe people are buying it", or "Wow, why are people paying hundreds for an O/S that is already scheduled to die... "
     
  39. pyro9219

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    It has ton's of "learning opportunities" :D
     
  40. Brianj

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    They did that when they released Win2k too. I was at Tech Ed about few months after it was released and they were already talking about Win2k3.


    So far I like Vista, but I do wish there was a way to 'unsimplify' certain things. Sometimes I really have to search for something because I know where it should be...but it's no longer there.
     
  41. alphagamma

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    Indeed 1 month to learn it sucks :D
     
  42. TC03

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    What would you expect? "Guys, we finished Vista, take a 2-year break and do whatever you want"? Ofcourse not, Vista was already in development before XP was even finished, and the same thing happened to its predecessors.
     
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    There is just an abandon-ware approach to the way it's been communicated, in much the same way everything came across with switching all their O/S's the modified NT core. They made everyone get these new machines that had limited driver support just to run it and stay on top, while at the same type trying to hype it up to get people to buy it to push more developement just so they could tell everyone "you can do it all again using XP". Vista just came out and requires DX10 for "full compatibility", the business class solution doesn't even offer the best business feature, the drive encryption... And the roadmap and talk from redmond is that they are again ditching the "hive" and going to a different architecture which will again require new hardware support.

    What really pisses me off is that MS thinks they are the ones that drive the market, when in fact it's the hardware that pushes the emerging markets. Without drivers there is no support... without low level developers there no true 64 bit, or multicore support in the sense that many other OS's have it... *cries for BeOS*. Without fast enough hardware available at a cost the average joe can support, (or the fact that most normaly people don't upgrade every few months, let alone every year), again there is no upgrade...

    With every version they have also treated the user like they are getting dumber with every patch. It's not that things are just hidden anymore in a registry, but there is a genuine inability to hand tweak stuff because Microsoft thinks they know best because they have tested their product on a few hundred pieces of hardware in a few dozen scenario's.

    Anyways, I'm not trying to start a flame war here and I'm not trying to say there is a problem with people who want to use Vista. By all means go for it, but keep in mind that it's not honestly "tried and true" yet, so there is no reason to seem shocked when stuff doesn't work as you want it.

    Long story short: Don't buy an SUV for features that attract you just to turn around and *use your imagination* about the gas prices.
     
  44. TC03

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    Fine by me :cool: . Anyways, wouldn't recommend Vista on the HEL-80, I've seen more BSODs in two days Vista than I ever have in XP.
     
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    I wouldn't recommend Vista period. But that's just the "treat me like a customer, not a criminal" instinct in me that makes me not use it (and be a proponent of Linux wherever and whenever possible)
     
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    I don't know about you all that are having problems with vista on the hel80, but I've not had any problems at all with it. I keep an eye out on the drivers individually, not through copmpals site either. I do alot of encoding, audio and video. So I'm working it constantly and reboot about once a week, unless there's a driver update. To me it's just as stable if not more, than xp.
     
  47. pyro9219

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    I think part of the problems that arise are partly experience and skill of the user. There are alot of things I've seen labeled problems that in my book are "part of using a computer". However, I've got almost 20 years working with them and a binder full of certifications, college education, tech school education, and a passion for them. That's not the same as the "mass market" that I keep seeing rushing out and buying Vista.

    As for stability, I've never had a problem with that using Vista internally here when I had about 20 lab systems testing it on Intel's new servers. I've also never had much of a problem with XP since SP2. My current notebook has only ever had windows installed once when I got it, I've never had a BSOD, and I only reboot once every few weeks for stuff not related to switching O/S's.
     
  48. alphagamma

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    I too do a lot of encoding and seeing benchmarks with 20% loss for XP->Vista makes me shiver.
    http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/29/xp-vs-vista/page5.html
     
  49. pyro9219

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    I'm not going to argue a "loss of power" from using Windows Vista... There is alot of bloat to get that nice cozy "everything works" behavior out of windows. With a bit of careful trimming to installed components and running services though, this can be improved to an extent. Every version of windows went through a slow stage upon release until the hardware caught up. You KDE users should feel right at home in this department too, there have been huge improvements in UI performance recently, not to mention several major jumps in speed over the years.

    Even in the linux world new toys are buggy and often sluggish until the common market's hardware catches up / the code is scrubbed for performance and bug fixes. If the dev's wrote stuff that was the fasted it could be now, you wouldn't have that great sense of just how fast your next upgrade is compared to your current hardware :D , which would mean you would upgrade less because your system truly is productive for years *cough* linux / mac *cough*, which would mean alof of programmers would be out of jobs. ;)

    It's interesting to watch the evolution of technology. It almost always starts off with a "sux" version, and after loads of refinement becomes the next big thing because it enabled support for features that alot of people didn't have needs for previously. Vista is currently in that "sux" stage, but there really are some great software architectures hidden deep inside. You may not see the need for them now or ever depending on your computing needs, but they are there.
     
  50. Pitabred

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    The thing is, that performance increase is on the same hardware in Linux. Rather than having to upgrade the hardware to meet the needs of the software, the software is adaptable to the capabilities of the hardware. And that there makes ALL the difference.
     
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