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    XoticPC selling OCZ Whitebook (Arima W840 DI) - nice!

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by Gophn, Sep 12, 2008.

  1. Gophn

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    it's been up for a week at least. 5796 won't stand for a chance in front of this.
     
  3. Gophn

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    but there has been no official reviews on it yet... we do not know its cooling, build quality, etc...

    we just know it looks great on paper with the price tag. :)
     
  4. eleron911

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    So far, yes.
    But we`ll see, it`s thin and with 2 card and 2 hdds...I think it will have to be hot.
    Or noisy...
     
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    Wow!!! seriously the pricing on this thing is AWESOME!!! :D

    Might add it to my notebook collection! :)
     
  6. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Craving that backlight on the keyboard! Nothing I want more than a backlit keyboard right now. Gosh it would be useful.

    The price is really good. I could have gotten far more for a bit less than I paid for the NP5796. But... you win some you loose some. I'm an nVidia guy at heart so I'm very content with the fastest single mobile GPU in the market :)
     
  7. Gophn

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    Really?

    I used some Dell's and Macbooks with the backlit keyboards... they are more for aesthetics, than usefulness.

    When you start typing or using them for gaming, you do not even look down anymore... nots very useful unless if you not know how to type (touch typing). LOL. :D

    Only a "show-off" feature IMO.
     
  8. emike09

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    Highly disagree. While it does look good, I find myself looking in the dark for specific keys that I don't have memorized. Like the Fn keys, the redesigned 10-key, etc. I use the system a lot while its dark, and having to tilt the screen down and squint for the key is really annoying.

    The macbook Pro keyboard light is a little dark for my taste. A good bright one would do the trick.
     
  9. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    If you want to see your Clevo keyboards well in the dark... get a blacklight.

    I saw how bright my keyboard gets with a blacklight... kinda cool during LAN parties. :D
     
  10. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Ha I bet so. You know, if there are LED blacklights, I would guess one could be into each side of the LCD chassis with a small hood placed over it with a little room to spare. Then a wire could be run down through and into power. Would take some modding, but could be done methinks.
     
  11. ashveratu

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    I was thinking the same thing :cool:

    I have to agree with Gophn about the backlighting in the keyboard. It's as useful as the UV leds inside my desktop case, they make the watercooling hoses look pretty :D It would be nice to have a pretty looking laptop for a change though.
     
  12. IKAS V

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    Specs look really good, but I also want to see how this stacks up against a NP-9262.Does crossfire run any cooler than Sli from Nvidia?
     
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    What I like most is the 512MB PCI-Express ATI HD3870, I want an ATI card in the M860TU by Dec, or April. The 3870 will probably be dated by then, but it will be interesting to see if ATI holds up well in benchmarks (real performance). (I'm an ATI Fan)

    That one is a bit too heavy for me, but looks great for people into real desktop replacements.
     
  14. emike09

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    Obviously you guys don't use your systems much in the dark.
     
  15. Noctilum

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    Or perhaps we don't need to look at the keyboard while we type ;)
     
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    A lid keyboard is amazing, I use it all the time on my XPS.
    If the Crossfire turns out to be a better gaming choice, and not just a higher 3dmark score, I'm pretty sure this laptop will officialy become the fastest one in the gaming world.

    Though I seriousely doubt that.
     
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    it'll still lose to the 9262 easily
     
  18. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    So I don't need it when I type, but trying to find the right fn keys or finding the right keys for the new 10-key layout isn't something many people have memorized... ;)

    But you won't have to haul around a lead brick anytime you want to take your lappy with ya :)
     
  19. me12345

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    Wow, this seems too good to be true. Do you guys think I should return my 5796, it seems like I can get a much better laptop for 100-200 more dollars.
     
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    guess the total amount of time I used the backlit feature on my MBP in past 1.5 years? less than 30 minutes.
     
  21. me12345

    me12345 Notebook Evangelist

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    Does anyone know when the NV GPUs will become an option? Will it increase the price a considerable amount?
     
  22. emike09

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    Reportedly they are coming soon. Don't remember where I heard that. nVidia is notorious for being more expensive than ATI.
     
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    I wish 9800 GT's in SLI were possible with this notebook. I do believe in real-world gaming applications that the 3870 Crossfire may fall short of peoples expectations, I guess we'll see soon enough. I want this notebook, I think, but I'm still considering the NP5796 or even NP9262 as an alternative. For what you can get for the price the 9262 is just amazing.. but boy is it big!
     
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    If its worth anything, I love my NP5796! Fast, powerful, somewhat lightweight, and small enough to get the job done.
     
  25. Shane@DARK.

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    Sorry, but there is no ETA for when the NVIDIA GPUs will be available in this notebook, nor where there be any SLI support. :(

    And this thread should be in the new OCZ forum :)
     
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    Yeah the portability of the NP5796 over the 9262 really appeals to me. It's just that I see myself using my laptop in a sort of desktop setting most of the time anyway, and it would be really nice to get the power of SLI behind some of my favorite games. Granted, I'm gaming on desktop 7600GT right now on a first generation Athlon 64 3200+, so almost anything would be an upgrade at this point anyway.
     
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    Did you mention that you'd be getting a test system today? Or was that someone else? If so, any idea when we might expect an update? :D I'm going to wait a week and see what happens, if no new info comes out, I'm going to just go with a 5796
     
  28. Kinghong1970

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    wow... i'm amazed at the pricing... it's not that bad...

    i can get a pretty nice setup for $2000...

    **** these computer choices are killing me...
     
  29. NGH

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    What would make this really sweet is if OCZ sold this as a DIY kit to end users as was marketed months ago. ;)
     
  30. ashveratu

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    It doesn't hurt to call ask one of the resellers who are offering it and ask if you can get a barebones lappy. I would be surprised if they can't.
     
  31. robm@rkcomputer.net

    [email protected] Company Representative

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    As of last Friday OCZ said they may begin shipping between 09/19 and the end of September. There is no confirmed release date available yet.....
     
  32. gonwk

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    Hi folks,

    Does OCZ have a 15.4" laptop!?!? 17" is too darn big for me to lug around!

    G! :)
     
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    they do, but not as cool as this one.
     
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    Any pictures of this notebook?
     
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    Killer Notebooks is supposed to be getting a test system on Monday and posting benchmarks. Supposedly they were the only company chosen to get this unit early in the United States because of their reputation.

    We have a whole OCZ forum where we have been talking about this system for a while: http://forum.notebookreview.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1057

    One of the threads I already discussed the price I got, and compared it to ExoticPC. I actually paid LESS for more system.

    ExoticPC:
    OCZ EXTREME 840
    - 17" WUXGA "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1920x1200)
    - Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
    - Standard Dead Pixel Policy :mad:
    - -Intel® X9100 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo Extreme 3.06GHz w/6MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB
    - (2) 512MB (1,024MB Total) PCI-Express CROSSFIRE ATI HD3870 DDR3 DX10
    - ~ 4,096MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)
    - 4GB Intel® Robson Turbo Memory II
    - Standard Finish
    - - Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti 8X Light Scribe DVDRW Drive w/ Software
    - - 320GB 7200RPM Seagate (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
    - - 320GB 7200RPM Seagate (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
    - Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader
    - Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5100 802.11 a/g/n
    - Integrated BlueTooth
    - Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
    - Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
    - Carying Case Optional (Select if desired)
    - Spare Smart Li-ion Battery (12 Cell)
    - Integrated Fingerprint Reader
    - -Windows Vista Business 64-Bit w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
    $3,609 + $37 shipping = $3,646.

    KillerNotebooks.com
    Nagamaki WUXGA 1920x1200 Glassview
    Penryn Extreme x9100 3.0 GHz
    NO Dead Pixel Policy :D
    4 GB DDR3-1333
    4 GB Turbo Memory
    320 GB 7,200 rpm (5 year warranty)
    320 GB 7,200 rpm (5 year warranty)
    300 Mbps a/b/g/n
    BlueTooth
    Dual 3870 ATi
    Dual Layer DVD Burner
    U.S. Keyboard
    Stock Look - no customization
    Extra Smart Li-ion Battery (12 Cell)
    VISTA 64 Bit Business
    Killer Notebooks Core Optimization Program
    OS Performance Tweaks
    Skeleton Crew Install
    Modded Drivers
    Nero Burning ROM, WinDVD
    Shipping U.S.A.
    Total $3,513.00 including shipping and a no dead pixel guaranty.

    I have seen the video that is floating around the internet about this system. It almost seems too good to be true. I can't wait to see the real pictures of this system and the benchmarks.

    I like the fact that this company is very active in the community. There is even a gallery of avatars and signatures at the GoG forum where I got mine and you can put in requests. Check it out!
     
  36. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    Well, Since Xotic has no tax, and KN does, it would be 3646 to 3800.

    Furthermore, I suppose this is the base warranty? If so Xoitc has free extra 2 yrs labor.
     
  37. RunningGunner

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    They don't charge tax at Killer Notebooks. I already pre-ordered it.
    Total $3,513.00 OUT THE DOOR including shipping and a no dead pixel guaranty. I was actually refunded because the price dropped. I am looking at using that money to get a custom branding done.

    Furthermore, Exotic offers a 15 day return period LESS shipping while Killer Notebooks offers 30 days and includes the shipping. He seems pretty confident in his product. Judging by the reviews his systems have had in the past I can see why.

    In doing research I found out that RK Computers offers this as a bare bone system.
     
  38. Vedya

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    Ok, Didnt know that, In that case you are correct sir, KN is the better deal.

    Is this a special offer, or the regular price?
     
  39. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    I cant wait until you all get them, and a better one comes out a month later ;)

    I cant stand the continual outdating of laptops, becuase they are not very upgradeable, so I am making my own laptop this summer. So far it looks like its going to be an awesome build. Plus I will be able to upgrade it for much less than a laptop ;)
    I know mine will be the first laptop with 16 cores and at least 4 graphics processors, and the first one to break more than 32Gb of memory. Wow K-tron calm down you havent even got pass designing around the 27" screen yet ;)

    Stay tuned guys, this summer it will happen

    K-TRON
     
  40. RunningGunner

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    I think it is a pre-order special. 4GB for the price of 2GB. GoG says it will be extended until Wednesday.
     
  41. Shane@DARK.

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    You only pay tax if the company you're buying from is located in your state :)
     
  42. gonwk

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    K-Tron,

    Do you have enough Voodoos!?!? :D They must have cost you an arm and a leg.

    G! :)
     
  43. gonwk

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    Hi Nirvana,

    I found it ... it looks a lot like my old Compal JFL92 ... and is using the older stuff ...

    Thanks,

    G! :)
     
  44. Greg

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    Do we need to add anyone to the reseller's list? I'm thinking that any resellers not marked as such need to contact the admins now...
     
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    oi, before u think about buying from xoticpc, consider K|N. They actually have better pricing, better support and really cool mods. And the fact that Mark is gonna release his quad core application free to all buyers.

    the 3870s have been (almost) fully proven to get around 15000 3dmarks. The Whitebook is based on the Arima w840 D1, the second gen Alienware m9750. the m9750 was the last solid and superiorly built notebook they released before the m15x fiasco. That m9750 had a really effective cooling system and never overheated, despite being a SLi notebook that was only 1.5in thick.

    Hope that clears up some things
     
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    Hi qaz,

    That must be true for the "High-End" and pricier lappys only ... right!?!?

    Thanks,

    G! :)
     
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    I'm excited to see this. considering you can run a build of 2k that would still be very good..
     
  48. me12345

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    After taking a quick look, I think he is referring to the high-end laptops. KN seems to be cheaper once you reach the $3k+ mark. Xotic PC is still cheaper if you're trying to build a sub $2K gaming laptop.

    @Qaz

    Since it chassis is the second generation, do you know what has been changed since gen one?

    Thanks.
     
  49. Shyster1

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    I'm gonna have to go with emike09 on the backlit keyboard point - I touch type all the time (like right now), and what I find is that, while I don't look directly at the keys, I do use my peripheral vision to keep my awareness of where the edges of the keyboard are and the position of my hands relative to those edges - that seems to generally be enough data to be able to hit the alphanumeric keys, shift, control, and the major non-alphanum keys by touch.

    However, when I'm in near or total darkness, the light from the screen is so bright relative to the rest of the room, and, because of the tilt of the screen the light from the screen doesn't directly strike the keyboard at an angle that would permit me to use it to see by, and as a result I lose my awareness of where my hands are relative to the keyboard, and in particular relative to the number keys and the keys that I don't use frequently.

    Further, because of the space constraints of a d**ned small NYC apartment, I can't turn the lights on where the computer is used when I get up in the morning and it's still dark outside - about 70% of the time. So, I would find it very useful to at least have a keyboard where the edges were backlit so that I could maintain my peripheral awareness of where my hands were relative to the keyboard.
     
  50. Chef

    Chef Notebook Guru

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    Does the backlit keyboard have all three options at once, or do you choose when ordering :S
     
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