The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
 Next page →

    Zepto Nox and Mythos graphicscard upgrade in the works

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by kadett2k8, Jul 18, 2008.

  1. kadett2k8

    kadett2k8 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I just got a hold of this information:


    "Zepto’s Mythos and Nox series with more options

    Zepto has published today that the company will integrate an even more powerful graphics card to the new high-end notebook series Mythos and Nox. Existing customers get the opportunity to upgrade their already bought machines.

    The recently launched Mythos and Nox series notebook PC’s from Zepto are packed with all the latest technologies; and feature amongst others Intel’s new Centrino 2 technology, 800Mhz DDR2 RAM up to 8GB and energy saving P series processors from Intel.
    These machines offer superior visual performance through the new Nvidia Geforce 9600M GT graphics card with 512MB DDR3 RAM, HDMI connection, and WSXGA+ Crystal Clear technology TFT panel with Zero Bright Dot warranty.
    Zepto’s customers can now look forward to even better graphics at the beginning of September. Zepto is working on increasing performance from 5000 3D Mark 2006 points with the current 9600M GT card with DDR3 to approximately 6000 3D Mark 2006 points with a graphics card not named yet – resulting in a performance increase of around 20%.
    The graphics card will become available for sale on www.zepto.com from the beginning of September, increasing speed and performance of the new Nox and Mythos notebook PC’s even more – without increasing power consumption. At the same time, customers that already own a Nox or Mythos will be offered the possibility to upgrade to the new card without any problems, as this card will be Nvidia MXM compatible. The price of the new graphics card is still unknown.


    For more information please contact:
    Morten Kjærsgaard, COO, Zepto A/S
    Telephone: +45 47 37 10 22, E-mail: [email protected] "



    Sound interesting.
    I'm wondering what kind of card it might be?
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 8, 2015
  2. mats1

    mats1 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    interesting idd, and it's without increasing power consumption...
     
  3. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    7,197
    Messages:
    28,841
    Likes Received:
    2,166
    Trophy Points:
    581
    That press release implies the current graphics cards have DDR3

    which is contrary to other information. :confused:

    John
     
  4. mats1

    mats1 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    the gfx has always been said to have DDR3 I think
     
  5. rubenvb

    rubenvb Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    224
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    yeah a 9600m GT always has had a whopping 512MB of DDR3...
     
  6. Sprint

    Sprint DTR Super Mod

    Reputations:
    20
    Messages:
    1,011
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    the 9600 ones should be DDR3, while the 8600 ones are DDR2
     
  7. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    7,197
    Messages:
    28,841
    Likes Received:
    2,166
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Yes. I'm getting confused by DDR3 graphics RAM and DDR3 system RAM. I understand that the latter doesn't offer much except a higher price.

    Perhaps others are also getting confused about the same aspect?

    John
     
  8. CLB-NL

    CLB-NL Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    263
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    @ Kadett2k8: Hold of this information.. Just the newsletter =)

    The videocard in the Nox / Mythos is the nVidia GO9600M GT 512MB.
    And that videocard will have DDR3 memory (in real it's called GDDR3 I thought)

    The RAM in the Nox / Mythos will be with the highest specs 800MHz DDR2.
    Because the Zepto Nox / Mythos won't be able to use DDR3 RAM (1066Mhz)
    (said by Zepto USA, while Zeptoshop.nl said to me that they have ordered it to put it in their Nox / Mythos... So which is true.. I haven't got a clue)

    Which videocard they will offer in the Nox / Mythos...
    I think it will be a 9800M GT 512MB DDR3 =) No source, but just my thoughts.

    You have got nVidia GO8600M GT's wich have DDR3 memory :D
    Look at some Dell notebooks (XPS 1530 as example)
     
  9. DaMarcus

    DaMarcus Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    88
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    That unnamed card would be the 9700M GT. And why?

    Because the 9600M GT is based on the GPU in my notebook, the 8700M GT. And when I OC to 700 / 900 I my card reaches around 6000 points in 3DMark06.

    It wouldn't be the 9800M GT because that is equivalent to the 8800M GTS. And that card reaches 8000 points.
     
  10. insats

    insats Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    275
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Yes, I'd say that's rather obvious. No other card would offer only 20% more 3dmark06 points.
     
  11. kadett2k8

    kadett2k8 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Well i wouldn't know what card it is.
    I just found it to be interesting that you can buy the machine without problem now, and then upgrade the card at a later time if you want to.
     
  12. CLB-NL

    CLB-NL Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    263
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    That's because of the MXM upgrade possibilities
     
  13. kadett2k8

    kadett2k8 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Yeah, but I haven't actually seen a company really use the opportunity to actually make upgrade options even though the cards have been with MXM II/III connection.
     
  14. DaMarcus

    DaMarcus Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    88
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Fujitsu-Siemens, Ahtec, XXODD (Dutch brand), Clevo etc. ;)
     
  15. kadett2k8

    kadett2k8 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Yeah they use MXM II/III, but where are the after sales graphics card upgrades for these models from the manufacturer themselves?
    I know people try and buy faster cards from other machines on the market, but that voids the warranty.
     
  16. DaMarcus

    DaMarcus Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    88
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Okay, you're right but is the 9700M GT spectacular? It's a OC'ed 9600M GT.
     
  17. kadett2k8

    kadett2k8 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Never said the 9700M GT was spectacular. I just find it all interesting that Zepto is the first company I've seen that actually offer real graphics card upgrades for their own machines :) Sometimes I'm just easily excited over tech stuff ;)
     
  18. __-_-_-__

    __-_-_-__ God

    Reputations:
    337
    Messages:
    1,864
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Clevo doesn't use MXM. It uses a proprietary format.
     
  19. DaMarcus

    DaMarcus Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    88
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    And that's why I've a MXM-III 8700M GT in my rebranded Clevo?

    (I think that you mean 'Arima')
     
  20. __-_-_-__

    __-_-_-__ God

    Reputations:
    337
    Messages:
    1,864
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    56
    try to put a clevo graphic card in a zepto. then talk.
     
  21. kadett2k8

    kadett2k8 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Well the Clevo uses MXM III and the Zepto use MXM II, so it wouldn't fit that way no matter what as it's 2 different connectors.
     
  22. CLB-NL

    CLB-NL Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    263
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    So a 9600M GT is a MXM-II card?
     
  23. kadett2k8

    kadett2k8 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Well apparently the 9600M GT card in the Nox/Mythos is.
     
  24. andygb40

    andygb40 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    99
    Messages:
    755
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The card could be made in either format. It is afterall only an interface we are talking about. The Nox and Mythos apparently use MXM II interface so they would have to buy MXM II cards. A bit like PCI-E, PCI, and AGP slots-the same card can be available for all interfaces (you can buy an ATi Radeon 3650 in both AGP and PCI-Ex16 format).
     
  25. kedirakevo

    kedirakevo Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Actually if you ask me, I think it could be more of 9650M GT/GS... Reason being both 9700GT and 9800GT are using MXM Type III...

    I do not have evidence... but since 9650GT/GS is slightly faster than the 9600GT, maybe that will suffice? haha

    Btw, try to aim for a 9700GTS as its armed with a 256bit memory bandwidth
     
  26. Thorne

    Thorne Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    41
    There are now a couple 15,4" laptops with 9800m GT, for example Alienware and now Rock too.. Maybe there will be more, but i doubt one would be Zepto.. :(

    That 256-bit bandwidth would be great, IMO.
     
  27. kedirakevo

    kedirakevo Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    The 17' Hydra? im sure that would be a 9800m GT. Sager's NP8660 15.4 also comes with 9800m GT
     
  28. kadett2k8

    kadett2k8 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The Hydra A17 will be a 9800M GTX 512MB
     
  29. Concr3te

    Concr3te Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Any news about this graphics update so far? Like what GPU it's going to be etc?
     
  30. kadett2k8

    kadett2k8 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I just got off the phone with Zepto about this and they can't tell us what graphics card it is until there's an official press statement about it close to the release of the card.
     
  31. okristian1

    okristian1 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Bummer. I am getting my mythos on 20.08. Whatever. I'll just OC the 9600 after a while and order an uppgrade next summer when I don't need the laptop for studies.
     
  32. wenzu1989

    wenzu1989 Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    76
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Whoever has the 8600MGT card such as the Zepto 6625 ... Is there a possibility to upgrade to 9600MGT ?
     
  33. grh3y

    grh3y Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I doubt it seeing as its two different chipsets.
     
  34. Sprint

    Sprint DTR Super Mod

    Reputations:
    20
    Messages:
    1,011
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Not possible what I know, diffrent MMX versions. And I dont think the cooling system could take it either.
     
  35. Thorne

    Thorne Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    41
    This card which they are currently developing might be the 9650M GT. Rock just announced their Pegasus 520 as "first 15,4" laptop" to house it..
     
  36. mats1

    mats1 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    well the configurator says 9650m gt so there is the answer
     
  37. Wraith_17

    Wraith_17 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Yes the card is the 9650m gt but does it have the 256bit memory bus we all want or is it just another 8700m gt upscale? Also do you think this will also be available in the nexus soon? I don't understand the nexus, its identical to the nox but it has a better processor and a blu-ray drive as standard and costs less money, although it does have a slightly worse screen but who cares about res on a 15"?
     
  38. Neo69

    Neo69 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    32
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    16
    no it will have 128bit. For 256bit, you gotta go 9800M GT (Sager/Clevo)
     
  39. Gnazz

    Gnazz Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    i'll be getting the nexus.. nox is only good if u want that high resolution
    then why not get the mythos.. it looks better then nox and same price.
     
  40. Dumpduck

    Dumpduck Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    110
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    So, this is the best card we can expect for the Nox and Mythos? After all, they said they hoped to see an increase from a 3dmark06 score of 5000 to 6000.
     
  41. kadett2k8

    kadett2k8 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Wraith17, the Nexus doesn't have built in Bluetooth, Fingerprint scanner, High res screen, and only supports up to 4GB RAM (Nox supports up to 8GB RAM), doesn't support SPDIF optical out, doesn't support Dolby Digital, DTS, THX, AC3 and doesn't support a TV tuner. All of these are supported by the Nox.

    Dumpduck, yeah it's the best card right now. Who knows if there might be faster cards later on?
     
  42. Dumpduck

    Dumpduck Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    110
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    True that, I just wish it would be available with the dockingstation now, I am so ready to order =/
     
  43. kadett2k8

    kadett2k8 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I love my Notus A12, but right now i wish i had money for a Nox A15 :)
    One of my friends showed me one and the soft touch is so nice. Gives a whole other level of quality feel on the machine. Also the Zepto logo that lights up is freaking cool and looks awesome on a dark or a room with dim lighting :) and the Zepto LED night mode is really a welcome feature when watching movies...
    Another cool thing is the possibility to disable the Win-key via "Fn+Win-key", so you don't accidentally tab out of a game :)
     
  44. Gnazz

    Gnazz Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    awesome feature with the winkey.. i personally never use the winkey
    is the soft touch also on the nexus ?
     
  45. kadett2k8

    kadett2k8 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Yes, the soft touch is on all of these models:

    Intel GMA X4500MHD based:
    • Orion
    • Anthea

    Nvidia GeForce 9xxx-based:
    • Nox
    • Mythos
    • Nexus
     
  46. Wraith_17

    Wraith_17 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    kadett 2k8, thanks for pointing out those differences about the nexus and nox but as I'm on a tight budget and none of those things really bother me (although presumably you can still but a bluetooth module in it?) I think I'll stick with the nexus. I just wish they would put the 9650gt in the nexus but if its still only 128bit memory bus it won't make that much difference over the 9600m gt, specially if I OC it XD
     
  47. Gnazz

    Gnazz Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    u can choose the 9650m gt on nexus at Dk zepto so i guess it'll be available international tomorrow
     
  48. kadett2k8

    kadett2k8 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Wraith17, i don't think it's possible to put in a bluetooth module as it is not an optional item.

    Gnazz, well the 9650M GT should be clocked higher by default because of the lower nm technology used to make the core.
     
  49. Neo69

    Neo69 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    32
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    16
    what exactly is this soft touch you are talking about, do you literally mean how the texture of the case feels?
     
  50. kadett2k8

    kadett2k8 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Neo69, yes the actual feel of the case. The plastic is made in a certain kind of way so you can feel it's hard plastic, but at the same time it has a soft and silky kind of surface when you touch it. It can't be explained. You have to feel it :)
     
 Next page →