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    Zepto Znote 6625WD - BIOS z15N011

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by Rene S - Zepto, Oct 5, 2007.

  1. Rene S - Zepto

    Rene S - Zepto Company Representative

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    Just uploaded the new BIOS for 6625WD today.
    This BIOS is for 6625WD ONLY.

    ftp://ftp.zepto.dk/Znote6625WD/BIOS/6625_z15N011.iso

    Changelog contains:

     
  2. Sprint

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    So, 1 question, do I dare to try this out? :D
     
  3. n0elia

    n0elia Come on Haswell...

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    Ok, first problem: When enabling "power saving" in Vista, only core 2 goes to 800MHz, core 1 stays at 1598MHz...

    :S ?

    EDIT: Ok, I'm getting all kinds of MHz, when "power saving" is active on Vista, RMClock shows core 1 = 1463, core 2 = 798 MHz. And CPU-Z = 1598 ? Thats 3 different frequencies.
    The FID shows as 8.0 and voltage VID 0.850

    Also, the FSB isn't lowered, its still 800

    Is this going to be fixed ? Cos' I cant roll back to z15n0008 Bios

    !This BIOS is very buggy!
     
  4. Rene S - Zepto

    Rene S - Zepto Company Representative

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    n0elia have you tried using Intel TAT (Thermal Analysis Tool) to measure the speeds of the cores? In that both cores run 800MHz. That tool is what the manufacturers use to measure the speed of the cores, and also what we use to measure it.
    We've seen a lot of the software people use measure a lot of the speeds and other figures very wrong compared to the software Intel has released and want the developers to use during development.
     
  5. John Ratsey

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    None of the software I've used detects the reduced FSB speed. 0.85V is a very strong indicator that the CPU is in the low frequency mode. I suspect it's working OK.

    I rolled back my 6024W BIOS simply by installing an older BIOS. Can't you do this?

    John
     
  6. n0elia

    n0elia Come on Haswell...

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    Ok, i've downloaded the Intel TAT and it shows 800MHz on both cores, correctly, thank you!. But what about the FSB ? shouldn't it be 400? TAT doesn't show the FSB.
    According to CPU-Z, FSB i still 800...

    And the "Enhanced dynamic acceleration", is that included in this BIOS ?

    Also the fan now operates at much lower temps, which makes it noisier, not that its too loud. Hope there is a way to reduce fan speeds in BIOS, i'll go check it right now :)
     
  7. John Ratsey

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    The various benchmark / diagnostic softwares have difficulty detecting the half speed FSB but if your CPU voltage has dropped by ~0.1V below the previous minimum then I think that's a good indicator.

    The dynamic acceleration speeds up one core by 200MHz when the other core is idle. For example, the T7300 will run at 11x 2.2GHz. However, the process is very dynamic. If you have CPU-Z open and run SuperPi then you may see the occasional faster speed.

    There may be an option in the BIOS to change the temperature at which the fan comes on. The 6024W BIOS has this option (see the attached). On that notebook the trigger temperature is OK but the required temperature drop before the fan goes off is too big. I also agree that a slower first fan speed would be good.

    John
     

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    hmm, after reading these replys, i think ill stay with my 004 for a bit longer :D

    btw, if any1 have any goodworking BIOS, can u send me it? for 6625wd
     
  9. ChristopherGrant

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    Ditto,

    New Bios creates noisier fan. Seems to be always on. Am a newbie to bios tech so any thoughts in lamen terms are welcome!
     
  10. blackbird

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    I thought fan noise was supposed to be improved in this update due to the fan being noise complaints recieved. Even you guys assured me that the fan noise was being looked into.

    Anyway isnt it possible to include fan control options in the bios like done for other zepto models??
     
  11. Sprint

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    hmm, Im just wondering, just installed nTune and it says FSB ~300MHz and then it says FSB Freq is ~600MHz??. Vista in balanced, t7100. Is there something I just dont understand or?? All other processor info seems to be right...
     

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  12. Rene S - Zepto

    Rene S - Zepto Company Representative

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    The fan runs a fair bit less with the new BIOS on the mchines we tested it on with XP, but the fan runs consequently more when you are running Vista as Vista uses the graphicscard more = more heat, this is not something we can change anything about.
    This BIOS has been approved by our production with regards to the fan running less. The 6625WD we have in our support room also hardly turn on the fan anymore after this BIOS update and that is running Vista.
     
  13. n0elia

    n0elia Come on Haswell...

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    Well, my laptop isn't as quiet as before the BIOS update.
    I don't understand this BIOS, first off it now has SLFM support, great! But now the fans are loud.
    Its a dilemma. Now what do I do ? go back to older bios and lose SLFM support but quiet fans, or stick with this BIOS with SLFM but noisy fans...
    Hope this will get fixed!

    ChristopherGrant also reported on the noisy fans... so it's a general thing
     
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    Pindanootje Notebook Guru

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    Is it impossible to just give us complete fan control? Like..write a program or something that would allow us to change fan speeds in the OS? (Much like SpeedFan does) I mean, everybody has different opinions about when the fan should kick in. I for one don't mind the noise and rather have a really cooled laptop. On the other hand, when I am at school, I'd rather not have a loud fan. While other can bear with their laptop being 60 degrees before the fan kicks to higher speeds.
     
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    Yes, why is it so hard when you guys aleady know how to implement such a thing, such as youve done in other zepto models.

    Sorry to be rude but quite frankly what good is it if your team thinks that this bios reduces fan noise but the users who buy your products pretty much agree unanimously that the fan is louder than before
     
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    lol I think that was clear enough :D

    but yeah, I agree, it would be good with a program that controls the fans. I have the 004 BIOS, and Vista, and my fan is off most time when I browse etc, the sound you hear I think is actually the graphic cards little fan wich is constantly (I think) locked at 224rmp (nTune says so (it allso says the main fan is going at 30000+rmp, can this be true?))

    and btw, just as a tip, I wouldnt start arguing with the customers, Its just not a good idea...
     

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    I would never advocate giving users complete fan control, but there could be control within a pre-set range, such as I8KfanGUI provides.

    I think there are two fan-related issues: (i) the speed at the slowest setting and whether this could be made slower and quieter; and (ii) the temperatures at which the fan status changes.

    John
     
  18. Rene S - Zepto

    Rene S - Zepto Company Representative

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    Sprint, there is only one fan in the machine that cools both GPU and CPU.
     
  19. Sprint

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    so, the fan is on the cpu and there is a heatpipe from the gpu?
    I tried to open the laptop to check a thing, but I couldnt just get it to open, or in fact I just need the keyboard out. Removed both screws, tried to drop it out, lift it eg but it didnt even move, any help plz? (btw, It doesnt void warranty to open it, right?)

    edit: I were really careful, not to break anything, but example the RAM cover if kinda tricky to get out, with all those edges
     
  20. John Ratsey

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    This thread and this thread relate to the 6x24W keyboard removal. I don't know if the 6625WD is similar.

    John
     
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    oki thx, ill try it out in a moment
     
  22. Rene S - Zepto

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    Both the CPU and GPU uses heatpipes and the fan itself is placed away from both.
     
  23. n0elia

    n0elia Come on Haswell...

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    Can't stand the fan noise. Rolling back to previous BIOS. Very disappointed. Hope Zepto will work on a new BIOS.

    The only disadvantage to this, is that i'll lose SLFM
    (Super Low Frequency Mode) :(

    EDIT: Ahhh just rolled back, what a nice and SILENT laptop :)
     
  24. aefuiasdf56676

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    I have a 200gb hdd, 2.2 processor, 2gb 6400 ram, 1gb turbo memory, what settings do i need for my bios? can someone please post them for me. i brought a new laptop and dont know how to configure the bios.
     
  25. gawhelan

    gawhelan Newbie

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    I updated to the z15N011 BIOS and afterwards my laptop started shutting down at random. I assumed that this was due to overheating so I monitored the CPU temperature and found that it was only about 60C when the shutdowns occurred. I don't think it shouldn't be shutting down at that temperature so maybe it was something else. Anyway, I rolled back to z15N008 yesterday and so far no unwanted shutdowns.
     
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    If you are adding Turbo Memory to an existing system then you will need to have AHCI enabled in the BIOS and Turbo Memory support enabled. However, if AHCI was not enabled before the operating system was installed then you need to load the right drivers before switching over. Read this thread for guidance (it's for the 6x24W, but I believe the 6x25WD is similar).

    John
     
  27. Sprint

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    Could any1 kindly send over the z15N008 (for 6625wd) BIOS as it seems like this is a good working BIOS. Currently have 004, and it isnt that spectacular looking at config options
     
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    Had the same problem, took a while before I rememberd that I had updated the BIOS. Sofar I have had no random freezes/shut downs (24 h). Called swedish Zepto support two times and asked if they had any suggestions to solve the problem, but they recommended that I reinstalled the chipset and nvidia drivers.
     
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    You can download it from Zepto ftp. Here is the link:
    ftp://ftp.zepto.dk/Znote6625WD/BIOS/
     
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    I was getting shutdowns under Linux as well as Windows, so I don't think that the windows chipset or nvidia drivers are the problem. 2 days now using the z15N008 BIOS and no shutdowns. It must be a problem with the z15N011 BIOS.
     
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    Any word on a new bios for the 6625wd?
     
  32. Sprint

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    lets hope they get it updated to xmas :p
     
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    I'm secretly hoping for tonight!
     
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    Hope they'll fix the noisy fans...
     
  35. Rene S - Zepto

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    At the moment there is no plans for a new BIOS for the 6625WD as it seems everyhting is working correctly on our test machines. We have had no shutdown issues in the testing on the machines, so we haven't been able to replicate it.
    We are now aiming to getting issues fixed on the BIOS for the 6x24W models.

    If we can suddenly replicate isseus on some of the other models we will deal with them at that time.
     
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    So basically we just spent 17000kr/2300eur on a very noisy 'state of the art'
    laptop with a flimsy keyboard with keys that don't always register and 1gb
    of the 4 we ordered that can't be used by the environment you sold along with
    the laptop. Perhaps that last point is partially our fault, but I'm not entirely
    convinced.

    If we could return this laptop, we would. Sorry Rene, I know it's not your fault,
    but this is really substandard compared to old laptops in your lineup.

    Oh yeah, what about that weird hump between the keyboard and the screen?
    What's that all about?!

    (frustrated, sorry for the vents)
     
  37. Sprint

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    OH CMON, Give us a break allready! It cant be that hard to try satisfy YOUR customers, OR DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PROBLEM IN YOUR FACE to see it?!?!?!?
     
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    You don't have issues with your laptops, we do. So instead of looking at your test laptops and telling us "there is nothing wrong with it as far as we can see", how about you listen to the customers who, apparently, do have problems.

    Instead of you who keep trying to 'solve' the fan issues. Let us 'fix' them. Just create a program that would allow [limited?] fan control. Some people rather have a slightly warmer, but less noisy laptop. While others don't care for the noise, but rather have a cool laptop. If you do that, you won't have anyone complaining about the fan noise. Problem solved.
     
  39. Rene S - Zepto

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    I'm not saying there will never be a new BIOS for 6625WD. I'm just saying that right now the Quality and Production team are focusing on the 6x24W models the most. I've contacted the person in charge of our Quality and Production team about the current issues that you are experiencing, and he'll look into it.

    About us having to fix "phantom" (by this I mean issues we or the ODM can't replicate), that's just about impossible, so yes we have to have the problems in front of us to fix it, and so does the ODM. I'm not saying you do not have problems, but we haven't had anyone in the Danish support contacting us about these issues that arise here with the z15N011 BIOS.

    About getting a piece of software developed to control fan speeds. I'll pass it on the same department, but I can't promise you anything will come of it.
     
  40. blackbird

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    Im sorry to say this but your sales support is the best I have dealt with yet your technical support is the worst I have dealt with.

    Maybe I am mistaken but doesn't the 6x24W line have a built in fan control thing in the bios...why cant the 6625WD have that as well.

    My Zepto 6625WD is loud...unbearable, cant even use it in locations such as university lectures.

    Maybe your perception of loud is not what ours is, whats loud to us may be quiet to you. In that case I am WILLING to send you my 6625WD laptop so you have the problem there in front of you.

    While your at it...could you also please stick a bloody DVD writer in there....mine doesn't have one !!! It only has a CD, burner and DVD reader which sucks for a high end machine like this...and at the time I bought this there was only one option for the optical drive which was the one I chose.

    Also would you kindly reply to my emails, or Pm's instead of just ignoring them or sending off a reply which has nothing to do with my question.


    Cheers and sorry for the harsh post
     
  41. n0elia

    n0elia Come on Haswell...

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    One more vote for fan control software!
     
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    count me in too, but Im just thinking bout one thing... How can you say that your laptop is loud? I mean, my fan is like so quiet, comparing to an 1½ year old Acer wich i think is too loud. Cos when Im browsing and its raining, I can only hear my lappy if I really concentrate on the sound and Im not typing :confused:
     
  43. n0elia

    n0elia Come on Haswell...

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    Well, its only loud with the NEW bios, not with the old. The new bios changes the fan speeds dramatically, and become VERY loud.
     
  44. Sprint

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    ah, then I get it :D
     
  45. blackbird

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    not for me, mines been loud out of the box :(
     
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    I think I already said me too in my remarks earlier, but since I own 2 of these
    laptops I think I should get another vote... :)

    so me too!
     
  47. blackbird

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    Watch Rene S Zepto not reply to my post, he never does ever since I started to post about my zepto problems.

    Pm'ed him about sending me the 004 bios, he said email me at this address, did so and also asked which one would he recommend. He sent me the 004 bios with no answer just a plain email with an attachment. Emailed him again still no response.

    This is the best experience I have had in contacting him for answers....I wont begin to explain what the rest have been like.

    Very picky in choosing what to answer aren't you Rene
     
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    I'm not sure, but I don't believe the Zepto workers here respond on company
    time. I think it's on their own time, or am I wrong? :)
     
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    I mainly Post during working hours myself, depends really what I have planned for the evening

    Rene rarely posts during working time and does it is his spare time only

    Morten our CEO used to be on here a lot, but does less so now as Im on here

    Pef-Zepto is new! so too early to tell
     
  50. Rene S - Zepto

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    It's correct I do it in my spare time, so if some of my answers are short and not 100% in line with how i would answer when at work I apologize, but again I don't get paid when being on here, so I answer from what i can remember about the info I have received from the Quality & Production Controller we have.

    Also I can tell you that he is on the case about the temperature settings and the software you have asked for, but still we have no promises about when this will be implemented if ever, but we have put it on the list.
     
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