Zepto Znote 6625WD - BIOS z15N011

Zepto Users


We are keen to try and replicate some of the issues that you guys could be having with the fan control on the 6X25 models. We are going to set up some machines with different configurations to try and replicate the potential issues. If we find an issue then of course we can work on a solution to them. We DO take your cases very seriously so please do not think for one minute that we do not. If needed we will make a form that we will ask you guys to fill out with detailed information about what is happening with your individual notebook.

ZeptoUK

 

Thanks,

Your words are much appreciated here with my wife and I.

...now if we can only get you guys to make a new or supply
a new keyboard for the 6625wd...

 

Thanks much appreciated

 

Well, I just updated to 011, and I dont think its louder, it just turns on the fans a bit earlyer, and turns off them a bit later. If you would be kind and set it to turn off the fans at maby 53/54 C then it would be just as quiet as it were with 008

 

I will keep you guys updated on what is happening

It could be that I need some clear details from all of you especially which CPUs you are using, and if you are experiencing the exact same issues

Luckily I can see from your posts which you 3 guys have!

 

Which CPU do you have ? n0elia

 

T7500 2.2 GHz

 

Ok, listen up, I'm really tired of this, I WANTTT SLFM (super low frequency mode), because it's a Santa Rosa feature, and one of many reasons I bought this laptop! But I will not use it, if I have to listen to loud fans. HECK, EVEN at SLFM, the fan kicks in!! UNBELIEVABLE. At least kick in when doing crazy CPU related things at 1.250V, and not 0.850V SLFM!

 

well, I also find that a bit wierd, but one thing has been bugging me, my OS (Vista Prem.) never goes below 20% according to RMClock, and I find this disturbing, as it didnt do that when I first got the lappy, but after my first upgrade to 008 it started doing 20%+ all the time, and thats what keeps turning my fans on...

 

EXACTLY. thats the problem! Thanks for specifying what I couldn't

 

no problem

oh btw, now that im using the new RMClock beta with support for Santa Rosa, using that with 011 and SLFM makes it say that my clock goes to around 8000 sometimes?? and the trottle has peaked to 10 000 one time, but when its in 9.0x (highest for 7100) it just goes to 1789 and 1800?

okay I just saw the core clock go to 24 000 and trottle to 16 000...

 

Use the processes tab of Task Manager to see what is keeping the CPU busy. My 6024W (also Vista Home Premium) is cruising along at 0.9V 800MHz and less than 5% CPU usage.

Have you got several web pages open and one or more of these has got some flash stuff on it? That will keep the CPU busy even if you are off-line. Personally I would ban flash because it will drain the battery if given the chance. However, Firefox + FlashBlock does the necessary.

John

 

well, tasmanager doesnt say anything, only RMClock (5-10%), task manager (around 10-15%), and dwm.exe (desktop window manager (1-3%)) and system idle is active, other software only just to 1 or 2% and back to 0%. So im out of ideas. And I have tested turning RMClock off, same story, turning aero off, same story...

 

I was just looking at RMClock's CPU Info page and when my computer is under low load it is showing something like: CPU load 26%, OS load 8%.

This makes sense when you consider that the CPU is running at 800MHz, ie 40% of potential full speed, so its 40% of potential capacity at that speed. When CPU usage reaches 60% (or whatever you have set in the performance profile, then the CPU will speed up).

Is this the cause of your confusion?

John

 

No, its that my OS never goes to idle, the processorusage is allways less than the OS usage

 

right, check this out

 

Ok, since Rene said that the new BIOS for 6625 is closer to release than 6224, let's get this thread going again.

What do you expect from the new BIOS?

Obviously they'll fix the fans, let them kick in later, at higher temps, and maybe even let us have full control!

I'm really looking forward to it! I'll finally be able to have IDA and SLFM

Sprint; How's your fan when undervolting in BIOS-011? Does it help when undervolting? And do you see SLFM and IDA ?

 

The CPU usage never goes close to 0% because of the latency issues on the Santa Rosa platform, the new BIOS for the 6625WD is going to feature a fix for this also, so not only does the fans turn off more, the CPU usage will also fall to between 0-5% (on the machines we have tested on).

 

Woah, nice. I can't wait to install it
But you can't say anything about release date right? Before 2008 ? January?

 

Right now it looks like a January 2008 release, but these things can change fast if any problems are detected with the test BIOS we get from the ODM.

 

The BIOS development cycle seems to be a bit slow: The computers will be superseded before the BIOS is fully finished.

Perhaps there should be willingness to release intermediate versions which offer improvements even if there are further improvements in the pipeline. Such intermediate versions should have fewer issues than the BIOSes currently released.

John

 

I agree and would like to add my voice to this.

 

I'm not completely updated on this. But is far as I know, there have been problems with a lot of earlier solved issues coming back in the BIOS-versions we are currently testing. For this reason, the new BIOS have been even worse that the current one and therefor have not been released to public.

I think René can give you a better update on this.

 

But why do you have to redo the BIOSes, cant you just fix a few problems in the versions and release a few bugfixes at regular times.
(I know you dont redo the whole BIOS but this is how it looks like to me)

 

Morten needs to get a big stick and start waving at the Inventec BIOS team.

John

 

I installed Vista SP1 RC today, and man, is the filecontrolling faster, took me 1sec to delete the 400+MB SP1 file, before, it would have taken maby 20sec

 

Yeah it definetly speed up the OS

If this is true, we'll be able to see IDA in action, when the other core is idle

 

I dont know if this belongs here, but my fan went wierd today

Now, it fires up at 58C cools down to 51/52 shuts off, starts again at 54C and cools to 46C????

Also, I somehow managed to get my core clock to 600MHz and throttle as low as 200 sometimes

 

In the past I have had problems with my 6024W mis-reading the CPU temperature as over 70C (when only around 50C) with the fan on full speed. Hibernation / resume or reboot usually clears the problem (once I had to do it twice).

John

 

MY IDLING TEMPS HAS GONE DOWN

before: travelling from 51-58 where he fan kicks in
now: fan off, temps between 48 and 53C

rised to 55 now...

 

So when EXACTLY does your fan kick in? I might try the new BIOS again, too see if RmClock undervolting helps on the fan

 

Oh nvm the post earlyer, idling temps hadnt at all went down..

My fan kicks in at 58C

 

58c ? That's great news. I'll install the new BIOS then. I never reach 58c unless I really do CPU intensive things, like gaming! Unless RmClock shows incorrect temps of course

 

Ok, it turns off at 58 or 55, it takes turns

 

Right, Im now using the 008, and I noticed one thing straight off. The reason why the ilding temp is much lower on 008 is, that the fan never turns off in 008, wich it does in 011.

 

never turns off? I'm on 008 right now, and it's completely silent

 

Hmm, it was on all day yesterday, but it seems to be turned off now

And once it turned on, it doesnt turn off, even if my temp is < 40C

Temps browsing and word: 38-44C

 

38-44?! Lucky man...

...I don't get below 48...ever...

and that's with bios 008, sp1 rc1, and undervolting!

 

whats the temp in your room? I have 17-20C

 

Pretty much the same, thermostat set to 20C.
Laptop about ½ meter from nearest radiator and
perhaps 30cm from window (outside temp -2C).

 

exactly the same here, hardly get under 50°C!

 

Mine processor is always between 50 and 58 if not doing anything processor intensive things. Fans kick in when temperature gets to 57 or 58 and then cools down to 50 or something. It's T7500 and undervolted in Windows XP. It's pretty quiet too, not any kind of disturbing sound.

Of course, as some people have said, it would be nice to choose some temperatures when fans start and stop. But in conclusion I'm happy with this now.

 

but you have 011, im using 008. When I had 011 my idling temps was between 52 and 58

 

As for me, downgraded just two days ago to 008. Temps decreased perhaps 1-2C in idle.

 

Im gaming at 60C with 008 (011: 75-80C)

Zepto you need to take the cooling setup from 008 to your new BIOS, thats for shure

 

Wow-zers! You're karmas intact it would seem!

 

008 cooling+SLFM+lower ping (or what it was called) on the motherboard WILL taste good

 

Ok, another possibly obvious question:

SLFM (Super Low Frequence Mode), where do you control this?
A brief search on the forums did't turn up gold some I'm hoping
you can send me in the right direction. I realize there's been
issues with this and the bios but it seems like you've had
success with it. Thoughts?

 

SLFM is only available on the 011. When you select "power saving" in Vista it will automatically enter SLFM

 

So if it's only available on 011, how does the above work out if using 008?

...sorry for the basic questions, still trying to catch up on the techie
learning curve!