The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    how many models have compal as odm?

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by stamar, Jun 17, 2006.

  1. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    454
    Messages:
    6,802
    Likes Received:
    102
    Trophy Points:
    231
    if someone has a lot of time you can research how many current models have compal as the odm.

    I mean, its reasonably different to say the dell inspiron with the compal 80. even though they are cranking out of the same factory in taiwan,
    Dell is assembling them in the billions and small mom and pop shops are assembling their compals in dozens....

    but, if someone has the inkling you could get a good picture of all of the machines compal has on the market right now.

    They are definitely the technology leader in notebooks, as far as bringing technology to the market. More often than their competitors at least maybe not always.
     
  2. 33percentlonger

    33percentlonger Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    189
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I think goren said something about this earlier i'm not sure though I'm sure we could have a find out though :)
     
  3. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

    Reputations:
    13,989
    Messages:
    9,257
    Likes Received:
    5,843
    Trophy Points:
    681
    Check out the Compal page that that Goren Stickied. He has very nicely detailed the recent whitebox models, and named most of the major brands for whom Compal builds.

    Now, breaking down all of the different major brand models that are Compal would take more time and research, but I think Goren would accept any details on this that anyone can dig up and verify.
     
  4. Goren

    Goren Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    951
    Messages:
    2,739
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    ooh, finding the details is a bit difficult. For sure, Compal pretty much does all the Dell Inspiron lines. The Lattitude lines is mostly Quanta, with a few exceptions (i.e X1 is Samsung). I believe the Toshiba Sattelite series is also Compal, but unsure of their Tecra and Qosmio line.

    Fujitsu-Siemens is another hazy one.. but it is definitely a mixture of Uniwill and Compal (some of which are whitebooks, rather than exclusive models like those made for Dell or Toshiba).
     
  5. Metamorphical

    Metamorphical Good computer user

    Reputations:
    2,618
    Messages:
    2,194
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Eh, really? Is the quality of Compal whitebooks better than that of the Inpiron and Satellite?
     
  6. Goren

    Goren Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    951
    Messages:
    2,739
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    It's difficult to determine how much Compal is responsible for the design. Meaning, Compal may manufacture and build an Inspiron, but Dell might be responsible for 100% of its design. In other cases, especially with the whitebooks, Compal does 100% of the design AND manufacturing.

    The same could be said for Quanta. Alot of the products they make for other people, tend to incorporate brushed aluminum, carbon fibre, magnesium, etc.. but their own whitebooks are usually mostly plastic.

    Then another scenario.. you can have two completely identical notebooks..but one using shoddier parts and failing more often. This is the case with Alienware and Sager Clevos. One would use cheaper RAM, HD, etc and the other would use more expensive ones..
     
  7. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

    Reputations:
    13,989
    Messages:
    9,257
    Likes Received:
    5,843
    Trophy Points:
    681
    The real issue with an ODM that builds for major national brands, and also builds barebones for the Custom Builder channel, is that when building for the major brands there is very fierce competitive bidding.

    Quanta and Compal are constantly being played off of one another by DELL and the other major brands. A 36 cent per unit difference could determine which company gets the mega million dollar contract, so they have to cut corners where ever they can.

    Also, I think you would agree that the Dell Latitude and Precision lines are better quality than the Inspiron line. Well, at one time or another they have all been made by Compal and/or Quanta. So you see it is Dell that controls the quality of each of their lines...not the ODM.

    However when it comes to designing and building their own model for the Custom Built channel, like the Compal HEL80/81 and HGL30/31 series, Compal doesn't have to cut corners but can "show their stuff".

    So the "whitebox" Custom Builders, and their customers, get the advantage of getting the best quality when they use one of the major ODMs like Compal and Quanta.
     
  8. Goren

    Goren Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    951
    Messages:
    2,739
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
  9. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    454
    Messages:
    6,802
    Likes Received:
    102
    Trophy Points:
    231
    i am trying to decipher something
     
  10. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

    Reputations:
    13,989
    Messages:
    9,257
    Likes Received:
    5,843
    Trophy Points:
    681
  11. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    454
    Messages:
    6,802
    Likes Received:
    102
    Trophy Points:
    231
    i read this article in the news here but whats tough about it is it has a lot of other relevant articles that they dont let you access.


    I am trying to actually make pictures of all the models that are compal at one time.
     
  12. Metamorphical

    Metamorphical Good computer user

    Reputations:
    2,618
    Messages:
    2,194
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I think you should post comparison pictures with the Quanta KN1 and the E1505/ i6000d. The notebooks have quite a resemblence to one another. Particularly lif you have a fine eye for detail. You'll notice little peices like the peice between the screen and the keyboard (On the 6000/E1505 picture where the vents on either side of the keyboard are.) It's always led me to believe Quanta manufactured atleast the notebook that's on my lap.
     
  13. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    454
    Messages:
    6,802
    Likes Received:
    102
    Trophy Points:
    231
    well um go ahead lol

    I have looked at the quanta kn1 recently but in a comparison to an msi notebook. it looks almost exactly the same as the msi notebook. I dont think it looks like a dell e1505
     
  14. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

    Reputations:
    13,989
    Messages:
    9,257
    Likes Received:
    5,843
    Trophy Points:
    681
    Here are detailed pictures of the Quanta KN1-C

    They don't really look very close...nothing is in similar positions.
     
  15. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    454
    Messages:
    6,802
    Likes Received:
    102
    Trophy Points:
    231
    you will notice a lot of things about quantas. the led in the middle recently. the very recessed cage behind the grid vent
     
  16. Metamorphical

    Metamorphical Good computer user

    Reputations:
    2,618
    Messages:
    2,194
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Well the first thing I notice is the shape of the screen bezel. Note how rounded the corners are and how flat it is on top, the location of the latches. On the right side, the vent is in the same place, maybe pushed back ever so slightly or missing one of the slots. The back of the notebook you have another slotted vent (that is different from the 6000's but in the same place). It probably means nothing, but the vga also looks to be in the same place inside the a ditch. The front edge of the KN1 curves similarly to the 6000 and the touchpad buttons have little dips. The lines on either side of the keyboard. About even with the tab and pg up keys. On the dell. the peice is the same basic shape. Both with the power button in pretty much the same spot. On the dell, the peice is a little smaller do to the white bumpers (which dell insists have to be there.) and presents of the vents.

    Maybe It'll all perspective, or it's just me, the eye of the beholder... Something like that. I honestly thank I see it.