new zepto nox/new fan problems,help!!!

just recentley got my hands on my zepto nox.................
getting this laptop was quite a problem..............(will save that story for another day)..............

am having a problem with the fan being quite high and coming for bout 40 seconds every 2 miniutes interval
cant seem to run any programmes on the 64bit vista guess i have to revert to 32 bit...............(any advice also on how to do this ?)
any advice pls

 

Did you install the latest video card drivers?

Tried contacting Zepto support and see what they have to say?

Ain't looking promising if this is a universal issue, as I'm planning on using x64 Vista also. :S

 

If it's games you can't run, then Zepto has released an updated driver in their FTP for that issue:
ftp://ftp.zepto.dk/Notebooks/Nox_A15/Drivers/Vista/64bit/02_Graphicscard/175.16.zip

 

got that downloading now(update on driver)..............will get it going and monitor .............
the fan still kicking in at the moment,..............hoping it gets better............cos had similar problem with my vaio...................
any other suggestion would really help.................
thanks for the pronpt reply guys

 

Well the fan kicking in only means that your CPU is getting hotter, so it needs to be cooled, perfectly normal, exept if it goes on very loud.

As for running 32 bit os on your nox, I say not recommended if you got 4GB ram. A 32 bit OS cant handle over 3GB ram in a sensible way (or without starting to scream or something other wierd ).

 

If the fan is too noisy, first check the CPU utilisation in Task Manager. It should be no more than about 10% when the computer is idle.

Next you can use monitoring page of RMClock to see your CPU speed ad voltage. You may be able to look into undervolting the CPU but I don't think RMClock is fully compatible with the new CPUs. At least it will help to understand what is making the fan busy (the GPU is the other factor).

John

 

I've read about this fan issue on a different forum, and I think it's a "babyissue" , and that it will be fixed in the next BIOS update.

You're saying that none of your programs work on x64. How do you mean exactly?

 

You MUST be joking, right?

 

No. But on the other hand I'm not saying that this is a fact either. It's just my guess.

But I don't think it's something to be hugely alarmed about (I assume you're getting flashbacks from earlier BIOS issues with 6625WD that never seem to be fixed). Nox is manufactured by a completely different OEM, and I don't think any OEM will be as bad as inventec was at getting out BIOS fixes.

 

I have the same problem, the fan runs every 1-2 minutes for 30-40 seconds.

I'm using Win XP 32.

From a new Laptop like the Nox 15 i expect something like "as quiet as a whisper" when i use only Office and Internet.

 

That doesn't sound as bad as on my 6024W where a short burst of CPU activity can trigger 5 seconds of fan activity.

The solution to both is probably to have a slower first stage fan speed so it runs for more time, but more quietly.

It's not impossible to do - I have had notebooks where I need to put my ear to the fan to find out if it is running.

John

 

If Zepto will not release as far as possible a BIOS Update i'll send back my Nox, it's pretty easy.

The Samsung R560 also Centrino 2 and 9600M GT GDDR3 is quiet as whisper in Office/Windows/Internet.

So i'm not satisfied.

 

I didn't mention Samsung although that's what I had in mind. I'm pleased to hear that the new models are just as quiet as the old ones.

John

 

You might want to try enabling Powermizer in you Nvidia Control Panel. See if thats enabled.

 

PowerMizer is activated.

Now i'm using the nox with battery, the fan runs less than in desktop mode. The CPU runs with 800MHz.

The fan runs although every 1-2 minutes, 10-30 sec.

 

Well, what they could do to make it silent, is that the fan would allways be on, but spinning very slow (like 100rpm) just to keep the air moving inside

 

Anyone else thinking "nVidia Faulty GPU workaround"? This looks to me to be just that. I'm not saying the GPU is/may be faulty, just that it may the sign of things to come from all notebook manufacturers that use nVidia. Sort of a "we've seen the fix for others who have a heat cyclic problem so lets make sure we don't have a problem with our notebooks and make the fan run as much as possible".

 

well, i do hope the fan issue is resolved in the next bios update........i was hopin not to get this in a new era computer,
hey forretde
do u run 32 bit with 4gig ram configuration on your notebook,will like to know if it slows your computer down

 

Yes with 4GB Ram. I see no speed problems with 4GB Ram.
Windows says that i have only 3GB thats all.

But i have had some shutdowns, (after the installation of the Wlan/Wifi Module and the Zepto Mobile software) i dont know why.

 

shutdowns, freezes or BSODs?

and regarding the GPU problem, heat cycling at idle is not the problem, temps dont alter that much, but when gaming, thats where we have the problem.
When you start up the game, GPU temp explodes from 60C to 80C withing one or two seconds (on my 6625), and same when you shut down, exept the values may differ even more then, from 87C to 60 in about 4 sec. Thats thermal Cycling

 

Thermal cycling can also be where the gpu heats up from cold then goes back to cold. I don't necessarily think there is a problem with the nox's GPU, its just that ALL notebook suppliers that have issued bios updates to counter the "POSSIBLE" problem have made the fan run more often. It may be just one of many causes to the fan seemingly running soo much. Not a fault as such just a way to reduce a potential problem from arising in the future. Bear in mind that nVidia have not released any specific details of what is and what isn't effected, this is just a way of manufacturers coversing their arses (in my opinion anyway.) I applaud them for taking such a stance should this be the case as it shows they are trying to help provide a more robust product.
I agree that the higher end heat cycling is more likely to be the cause of any possible failure than going from off to idle temp then back again.

 

Hey forrestde...

if your problem consists and prove to be "normal" this would be the first real reason for me, to NOT buy a Nox...since my first notebook, a gericom hummer, i promised myself to never buy any hardware thar makes helicopter like noise in office mode...

So my 6214W was perfect, nearly no noise pollution, even my external 7200rpm Hitachachi is louder...

But I go with the guess that these really maybe NVIDIA's precautions against sudden GPU Death...cause there are rumors, that the G96 has the same problems...lets hope the problem is solved in the 55nm G96b series...

flunserl

 

well smaller nm doesnt neccesarly mean new packing materials

 

Read this. It gives a little insight into the problem.

John

 

abolutely right!

Thats why I said I HOPE they took the chance to improve the production...

THX for the link!

nice idea to interview the one who "seems" to be responsible...

but that the chip itself was not the actual reason for the failure I already knew/understood...

I don't know if they necessarily need too change the way they mount the chip, even if not, I hope they used this change to reconsidere it...

interesting discussion btw!

flunserl

 

A nice illustration to show the fan activity and the workload.

I'm using Win XP Prof. 32Bit with SP3 and all Hotfixes, and the drivers delivered by Zepto.

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/133b-i-jpg.html

I booted the laptop and started my test, so the laptop was cold and the activity of the fan was at the beginning lower.

Active application, while I made the test:
Everest
Winamp played music (sound disabled)
Firefox with 3 windows and some tabs to surf in internet
Windows explorer
and some apps in the background (AntiVir, Realtek Sound etc.)

I surfed in internet to read something, often I made nothing just scrolling for reading or I opened a new tab in firefox it's perhaps the peak in the workload.

The darkblue line shows the CPU workload in %, after 15 minutes the average workload decrease to 15% but the fan activity growth. The red line shows the fan activity.

 

Hi

The Fan-Level might be interesting.

If its the lowest level, than it should not be to disturbing...my 6214W runs the hole time on first level, which is approximately the noise of a 5400 HDD spinning...

BTW: Your from germany?

Wie zum Henker bist Du jetzt schon an das Nox gekommen?

Ciao,

flunserl

 

It is the lowest level (obviously) but it is disturbing!

Ok the fan activity is a personal issue, but i'm working over 50% in office/internet so i'm not happy with the fan loudness. -> it's not a helicoper noise but loud enough to disturb.

The fans of my old Laptop are also very loud, so it's the same reason like for you flunserl, i'll never buy such a laptop.

Na, ich habe am 21.7. bestellt und am 24.7. meine Auftragsbestätigung bekommen und geliefert wurde es am 25.8.

Hier mein kleines review falls du das noch nicht gesehen hast:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showpost.php?p=9926212&postcount=8

 

Hi,

...very strange...my last hope would be, that it this one misses the first level an starts in the second..I can't really beliefe that Zepto is going zi build noisy laptops...

Gratulation, ja dein Review hab ich kurz danach gefunden!

(sorry guys, just asked him were he got the nox so fast...)


Ciao,

flunserl

 

I've just got a new Dell E6400. The fan is amazingly quiet. At its lowest speed is is almost inaudible.

Zepto need to buy one and listen to it.

John

 

well , i guess i will have to revert to 64 bit,cos my computer seems to give a yelp sound from time to time,like a scrreech,(probably not running well to 32 bit)............ok ,does anyone know how i could get my solidworks design software to work on 64bit,cos the one i have works on 32 bit............

 

Do the seller of the program have a 64bit version?

Try dual booting to 64bit and testing it out before switching completely. Many programs run on 64bit even if they are designed to run on 32bit

 

Which software did you use, to make this image?

I have the same problems with my Nox. Received it 4 days ago and the fan is starting to anoy me more and more. I bought it as a desktop replacement. I use it in school everyday and primarily use it as office/internet pc. Once in a while I use it to game as well, though I haven't tried it yet.

I was hoping for at quiet computer while I use it as office/internet and perhaps som noise while watching movies and playing games. Unfortunatly the fan turns on and off all the time.. Doesn't bother me that much while im at home, but in a classroom at school it pisses me off. I want a silent Nox!

Im hoping for a solution soon. Im am already looking for replacement and if I find a good one, the Nox goes back to Zepto.

That said, I really love the look and feel of the Nox. The perfect replacement would be a Thinkpad T61p, but that costs a fortune compared to the Nox.

Any other laptops that I should look for? Suggestions are welcome!

 

u know..................i do like everything about my nox...........................just the annoying fan.............i do hope someone from zepto reads this and takes it into consideration on the next bios update.........(hopefully soon)...............

it will be quite annoying to send it back.................cos it took me a long time to get it and its going to take me a long time to get my money back and also get another laptop,and i do need a powerfull laptop at this point in time.............

 

The diagram is made with Excel.

I used Everest Ultimate Edition (Trial) to get the temperature of CPU, GPU and the CPU Workload. Everest saves these values every second in a CSV format.

In manual work I noticed the time (start-end) when the fan was running.

With the csv file you can create the diagram in Excel and I added just the time in manual work.

 

Apparently, it is possible to change the fan settings in the BIOS. You can set the fan to go on when the CPU/GPU reaches 90C. (it is not recommended to go above that)

 

I wouldnt set it that high, rather put it at 60 and turn off at 50 so the fan goes on for a bit longer and stays off a bit longer (no pulsing)

 

why realease so much out when their is much that has not being resolved ..............interms of speakers,bios and.....................ooh well

 

Is the heat normal? and the noice?
I have already payed it, but i'm still waiting for it...
If it's a big problem, i may cancel my order...

 

There is a BIOS update to the NOX A15 that got released yesterday.
available from Zepto's FTP
ftp://ftp.zepto.dk/Notebooks/Nox_A15/BIOS/3331/

 

Thank you for the heads up!

 

Am I the only one to notice that there is NOTHING on the Zepto's drivers page?
The FTP site is empty.

 

Use Internet Explorer instead of Firefox.

 

Use Firefox with the FireFTP add-on.

 

And? Already tried it?

 

I've had it running on my lappy since it got released, nice little tweaks.

 

Hi,
I have installed the new BIOS 3331 and the fan control (noise) is not any better. I think actually that is a bit worse. It is turning on and off all the time. I have NO load on the system, only using a web browser. I’m VERY disappointed with my new Nox A15 due to the fan problem. It makes more noise than any laptop I have heard. This should NOT be the case for a “top model”.

Regards,
Dag

 

Turn off your Machine, remove Powercord and Akku, wait 1 Minute, but in back the Akku and Powercord, start the Engine . It Works, my NOX have had the same Problem, after this Procedure it works .

Greating

 

Has anyone found a solution to this? My fan started acting up just a few hours after I'd received my laptop. I brought my laptop to class today, but I had to turn it off, as it's far too loud and distracting. I'm curious if this is an issue everyone has, because judging from the comments at a Danish laptop site with a review of the Nox laptop, (I can't enter URLs, but just google "zepto nox anmeldelse" and choose the one from laptopworld) this fan issue seems to be a widespread problem, but Zepto don't seem to consider this as an urgent issue to address, or perhaps they're just ignoring it. I'm not sure if I should bother sending my laptop to their repair joint, because I doubt they'd consider the fan noise a problem, probably just ignoring it and billing me instead.

I'd love for a way to get this **** fan to stop being so noisy!

I'm guessing by Akku you mean the battery, I've tried that as well, while it sometimes works, it usually only keeps the fan at a tolerable speed for a few minutes, or until you restart the laptop. It's not really a solution, it seems totally random if the fan will work properly or not....

 

Thanks Z-Man, but it's not helping

Zepto must come up with a better solution for the the problem.
I hope that everyone will send lots of complaints to Zepto so that they can see that they have a serious problem with this laptop.

Regards,
Dag