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    upgrade cpu on IFL-90?

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by maditude, Oct 27, 2009.

  1. maditude

    maditude Notebook Evangelist

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    What's the fastest cpu that will work in an IFL-90? Right now, I've got a 2.0GHz c2d (T7300)...
     
  2. Ayle

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    The x7900(2.80 GHz) should work.
     
  3. grbac

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    According to ark.intel it's the x9000(2.8GHz) but with more cache.
     
  4. maditude

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    Thanks guys -- looks like my gaming addiction will have to switch back to desktop mode.
     
  5. Ayle

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    The x9000 is a penryn cpu, which are not really compatible with the fl90...
     
  6. Daniel Hahn

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    You sure the X9000 does not work? Cuz I think some people here are running a T9600 in their IFL90 which is also a penryn cpu... think as long as it's a penryn CPU with 800 MHz it's alright or not?
     
  7. Ayle

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    The penryn cpu work physically but you don't have a working thermal sensor. Normal penryn don't really creates problem since they are cooler than merom core, but extreme edition cpus have a higher tdp than regular cpus meaning they get hotter than regular cpus. The people running t9600 on their ifl90 are either among the rare ones to have the latest revision of the ifl90 motherboard with the upgraded thermic ic or they are kamikaze.
     
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    Maybe I'm wrong, possibly, but T9600 only works on P/GM45 chipset, which is in the JHL90 and KHLB2, not the IFL90. It's because it is a 1066MHz bus CPU. So I don't know how they could run T9600, as then that wouldn't be the IFL90.

    This what Ayle said about the Penryn and Merom is true. Thanks for clearing that up Ayle, I forgot about that.

    The best CPU that you could upgrade is Core 2 Duo T7800, which is a Merom.

    As far as I know, updated IFL with support for Penryn was JFL92, which is the one I have.
     
  9. Layne

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    The best is probably the T7800 (2.6 GHz), but the fastest should be Intel Core 2 Extreme X7900 (2.8 GHz).
     
  10. moral hazard

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    The best is your T7300, if you can get setfsb working.

    My T7300 got to 2.7ghz. I bet it could do more if I had stable ram.

    Try setfsb, I can help you out with that.
     
  11. Daniel Hahn

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    I knew that the desktop C2D are very stable to overclock but didn't know that the same goes for the mobile versions. After appyling MX-2 to my T7500 the temp goes only up to 69°C, used to be 87°C. So there would be room for overclocking... just sucks that there is no way to edit the bios directly... I have Vista 64 bit and most overclocking programs dont run at all or dont run in autostart.
     
  12. maditude

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    Sounds interesting. At the moment, however, my laptop is out of commission -- the video just died last night (nothing, not even backlight on the screen, no luck with an external monitor, either).
     
  13. moral hazard

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    Do you have nvidia graphics?
     
  14. maditude

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    Yeah, the nVidia 8600MGT. This is the second time it's gone back to the shop now (thank heavens for PowerNotebooks.com's 3 year warranty!)...
     
  15. Ayle

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    It's gonna die again after some time.
     
  16. moral hazard

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    Unless you turn up the fan speed and maybe do a copper mod.

    Undervolt it too.
     
  17. maditude

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    I had it sitting on a laptop cooler, that really kept the whole thing quite cool. Unlike with the first go-round, had experienced NO weird video artifacts that would have foretold impending failure, it just didn't have any video display after I turned it on Wednesday evening.
     
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    I don't think that heat is the main problem, it's just the card that dies after some time... Anyone still has his broken 8600M GT? Mine is not here. Because I'm very curious if this whole baking solution works. Anyways it's better to just replace the broken 8600M GT with a HD 3650 (or HD 4650 if you find one), it runs cooler while offering more power.
     
  19. moral hazard

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    The problem with those Nvidia GPUs is that the solder cracks so they have a bad connection to the board.

    Putting them in the oven is a cheap way to do what's known as BGA reworking/reballing.

    When you put it in the oven, you melt the solder, fixing the bad connection.
     
  20. Ayle

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    But the thing is that baking reset the solder but every time you turn on your laptop, the heat makes everything expand putting stress on the solder and when it cools down everything contrats. And that happens everytime you use the laptop and shut it down. After a bung of those cycles the solder just cracks again. So unless you can keep the gpu at room temperature, which is not possible unless you do some heavy modding. It's gonna die again and you will have to rebake it again.
     
  21. moral hazard

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    Yes, keep it cool.

    Do a copper mod. Use diamond paste. Undervolt and maybe underclock.
    Turn up the fan speed. Do everything you can to keep it cool.
     
  22. maditude

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    Man, trying to get a status update out of these guys is like pulling teeth. Still in the shop. :(

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    Got a fedex tracking # for my IFL90 this morning -- should be here today sometime. :)
     
  23. Ayle

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    If they can't repair it, ask them if they can't put a hd3650 in place of the 8600m gt. That would be a nice upgrade.
     
  24. maditude

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    At this point, I'm about ready to give up on laptop gaming of any serious nature. Travel has been drastically reduced (hooray!), and even when I am on the road nowadays, playing the games I like -- first-person-shooters -- typical hotel internet connections are horrible. Maybe that's just the fleabag places my employer puts me up in, tho.
     
  25. yotano211

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    well to get back on topic, i have a sager 2090 based on the same form factor. i also bought this one with a t7300. i was able to get a t8300 running at 2.4 and it worked. i called Clevo tech support to see if it was support and they told me, it's not support and wont work. i installed it anyways cuz never seem to pay attention to other people. the cpu worked just fine, the temp senor is way off and the fan only runs at max speed all the time. i have tested to see if it worked just fine and it did, wprime score are around the t8300 level. i would post some screen shoots but my 2090 does not work anymore. the hard drive just failed and the DVD drive does not work anymore so i cant install a new OS unless i buy a external DVD drive.

    i would not install any of the extreme cpus since they run really hot, the overall best cpu is the t9300 at 2.5. you can find some on ebay for really cheap.
     
  26. Ayle

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    You can install an OS with a flash drive. The problem with running a cpu with no power sensor is that if for some reason it reaches T-junction temperatures, since the bios doesn't now the true temps of the CPU it won't do an emergency shutdown and your CPU will fry. But since the bios also takes its temps reading from the gpu, it shouldn't be a problem.
     
  27. maditude

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    And they sent me the wrong damned notebook. :mad:
     
  28. Ayle

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    Ack. Try contacting paladin44 he is their contact on the forum. What notebook did they send you?
     
  29. maditude

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    I called them -- they're (various support guys @PNB) working on tracking mine down -- some mixup at their repair center. The laptop I got was an HL90, with a KCcomputers (Whitewater, WI) sticker on it. At first, I thought maybe they couldn't repair it, and just sent me a used replacement, then I noticed that my hard drive's mounting bracket wouldn't fit, the screen was different, and there was a note from the repair-tech inside that mentioned a completely different RMA#.

    Days without my computer: 15 and counting. :mad:
     
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    how do you do that, i have tired to install with a external hard drive but the windows installing does not let me. any help would be so great, i really miss the speakers on it. i hook it up to my sister's HD tv to watch movies, i use the speakers from the laptop, best speakers i have heard in any laptop. thz alot...
     
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    hey moral hazard, could you help me overclock my Ifl90 using setfsb? I want to change the t7300 2.00ghz to 2.3ghz.
     
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    i tried the setfsb mode (si sandra doesn't work for me) there are many possible ones. they each show a fraction. Which is the best one?
     
  34. moral hazard

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    The one that lets you increase the FSB :p

    Save your work, because if you try to overclock with the wrong PLL selected, you might make the notebook freeze and then you will need to restart.
     
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