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    A Question on Temperature...

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by Toughbook, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. Toughbook

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    I've searched and read everywhere with limited results... But what is the low / medium / high temps of the hard drive and CPU in the Toughbooks? I've seen several on other PCs, both laptops and desktop units. I always run Everest in the background of the CF-30. It gives me the availability to show the temps in the system tray. I shows temps for the hard drive, the CPU and then (Strangely enough) CPU #1-Core #1 & CPU #1 - Core #2. plus I show the voltage to the CPU. As I type I show 106 degrees for the HD, 102 for the CPU, 108 for CPU #1-Core #1 and 108 for CPU #1-Core #2. These are obviously degrees in Fahrenheit. I think the hottest that I have ever seen on mine with it working hard is 127 degrees but only for a few seconds. And my 30 has been on now for a straight 10 hours for the most part.

    What temps are you guys running? What do you experts consider too hot?
     
  2. jooooeee

    jooooeee Stealth in disguise

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    Are you talking F or C because if you talking C those temps are way high. If that is F your fine.
     
  3. Toughbook

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    Did you read my post? What model Toughbook do you have? I was really looking for comments from other Toughbook owners... I already know what the Dell/Asus/Lenovo/IBM crowd says...

    I figure Im good at least up to 140F since the Toughbook is rated that high operating in that temperature.
     
  4. Tim

    Tim Notebook Virtuoso

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    I think he didn't notice that your temperatures are in Fahrenheit and that is what he was asking. I am not sure if those temps are fine since I don't have a toughbook. My uncle has one though...but I know I could never use it since it is property of the fire department.
    Tim
     
  5. jooooeee

    jooooeee Stealth in disguise

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    Not the CPU its made by intel and it is safe up to certain temps regardless of what it is in.

    And your HDD is made by Hitachi so is mine regardless of the computer it is in it takes the same temps as every other Hitachi HDD.

    They don't make rugged components for rugged PCs it is just how they are packaged in the Toughbook.

    If that is in Celsius your CPU is way hot and the life of it is being greatly decreased.

    Listen or not facts are your components can take the same temps as everyone else's.
     
  6. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    I was gonna post some pithy response; but... it's just too easy.

    mnem
    *Lost in the TBZone*
     
  7. ZeroFlight

    ZeroFlight Notebook Evangelist

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    I can't tell you in terms of degrees since I go off of touch but I haven't had the 30 go anywhere near as hot as a 28 that's been running for awhile if that's what you're worried about. Either the processor(s) are dialed way down (not uncommon practice) or the heat diffusion is excellent. It reminds me of a 29 in terms of temp, maybe a little lower. The ultra-lights (T, W, Y) get pretty warm - guessing in the low 100s - especially if the thermal paste isn't on well but they're not bad in general. That's not much help without a number but it's a starting point.


    That's correct, packaged differently, which is kind of the point. It's not "how much can they handle", it's "what's normal after diffusion within a Toughbook."
     
  8. Toughbook

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    Zero... I've noticed on the 29s that there really is no thermal paste... More like thermal clay. I usually add just a dab of Arctic silver when I put them back together. I've seen a drop of about 2-3 degrees when I do. Not much but every little bit helps.

    Jooooeee... I'm aware of how the Toughbooks are built... I build them for a living. I know that the components aren't specially made it is how they are assembled and what is used. That's what I have been telling people for a long time. What I was looking for was other Toughbook owners to share their experiences. As I said... I'm well aware of what others say as I've read about it all over the net. But with no fan to cool anything I was curious what other Toughbook owners were seeing under different loads.

    I guess people are too quick to answer without fully reading the posts and or understanding them.
     
  9. ZeroFlight

    ZeroFlight Notebook Evangelist

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    The 28, 29, 30, 18, and 19 all use a kind of pad which tends to disintegrate over time and exposure as I'm sure you've noticed. The ultralights use some thick pads (more cubes than anything else) and paste in various parts. The 48, 50, 51, 52 all use paste on the processor, not sure about the rest of it or of any of the other units. Pan. apparently changed the formula or supplier for the pads because if you noticed on the 28s the long strip is a rubbery webbing while the newer pads are more like you said, clay and fall apart much easier than that webbing but do a better job. They can all be replaced with paste though, and in some cases I think it needs to be.
     
  10. klboo

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    Maybe it's in K, so the TB is probably running a little cold, but you might want to get a personal heater. (If it is in another part of the alphabet, you're on your own)

    By the way onirakis's lady is in H*LL with a 29 (check first pic in his latest thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=3536550&postcount=1 ), so if it works there, you are probably okay.
     
  11. alemex

    alemex Notebook Enthusiast

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    On my CF-Y7, temps are right now :
    135 F / 57 C for cores
    99 F / 37 C for hdd
     
  12. Modly

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    Rick, when I checked my 28, it was about 38°C (100°F). I haven't checked it since, but I'll fire it up when it's warmer out today and see what I'm at.

    The Mac Pro I use has gotten up to 61°C (over 140°F) and hasn't melted down yet, and my memory sticks have gotten up to 84°C (183°F)... Still running solid!

    Edit; I'm running at 33°C right now. The temperature outside is slowly getting warmer though, so I'll check it in a few more hours.
     
  13. Toughbook

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    OUCH! That's awfully high for the memory stick!

    BTW.. How is the hearse coming along. You have to give us updates every now and then you know.... (Unless I missed it somewhere)

    Alemex... Thanks for the info!
     
  14. capt.dogfish

    capt.dogfish The Curmudgeon

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    Modly, Now that I think of it there have to be some interesting stories about the ride all the way to Oregon in a hearse that was that reluctant to move across the street!
     
  15. Modly

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    The hearse is great. It made it all the way here without any real issues (wipers quit in Nebraska, but some grease took care of it). I was very happy that my transmission that I built held up nicely.

    I averaged 62mph the whole way (Gas is a killer in that thing), and during the day I could see everybody pass me, staring at the car. It was great! :D
     
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    Glad you made it w/o problems.
     
  17. Toyo

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    Could somebody please head me into the direction of what programs, or how I could get my temps?

    I use my 30 in some pretty hot conditions, I would love to know.

    Thanks
     
  18. Toyo

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    I just downloaded Everest. What a bunch of foriegn language to me!

    My temps are 86 and 103 F. Mine has been on since 6:00 am this morning. In my van with outdoor temps of 90 degrees.

    Hope that helps a little!