And so my WIHI (Xcelite) screwdriver kicked it's bucket today! :( *mourning in progress*

I have a NICE set of screw drivers for my Toughbook work.

However, the reality of it is that I only use 3 of the 7 I got, the TINY one I used to use broke today after 6+ years of HARD USE.

Now if only I could figure out which one it was that broke!

I'm pretty sure that THIS was the one I broke: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-Tools-...642?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a15e044ca

I use it to take out those TEENY TINY silver screws that they use to hold the hdd caddies together on CF-29's and there are 2 of the same size on the CF-19 caddy too

I have a PH00 00x60 and that's the next size DOWN from the one I need to replace (TOO SMALL)

They are CHROM-MOLYBDEN-VAN ones...

Also, I have Xcelite ones... are they the same company as WIHA????? I like the Xcelite ones... seemed to last SO LONG.

Thoughts?

 

I'm using this tool (black color) for all my laptop works


Wonderful set

 

They are not the same company Rob. Wiha is made in Germany and Xcelite is made by "Cooper Hand Tools" USA . Check these out http://www.amazon.com/Xcelite-6-Piece-Precision-Phillips-Screwdriver/dp/B000B63BWC .

I like the Wiha better
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-7-Piec...Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c62b27edb
or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-8-Pc-P...199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b29bcb0f

 

I went with the Wiha ESD (yellow top) and have been ecstatic at how good they are I got them from an Ebay seller but it was years ago now and I've no idea which seller it was. I think the 7 piece set was $25 or so at the time.

 

The first set I bought were Moody Moody Screwdriver Set, ESD Slot/Phillip 8 Pc/57-0635 | eBay . They were alright but then I tried the Wihi and now have 5 different sets

 

To actually answer your question, the PH.0 seems to be the best fit for the hard drive caddy screws.
CAP

 

I got that set in the plastic box for $1. It was in the bargain bin at the 7-11 on the corner (or something like that). Maybe a decade or two ago. Worked great on my HDD caddies. The set has 6 different sizes of mini philips head drivers, and 4 of them are "#0," so there is always a perfect match for the screw.

 

Xcelite is made in Germany too man... It says "Germany" right on it...

 

I was just going by what it said on the cooper home page but I see it now on the handle

Rob is the handle all hard plastic or is the red part soft ?

 

Not what it looks like at all.

Here is what mine look like: http://industrialelectronics.biz/cooper/elctscrw.jpg

 

261/PH000 x 40 Made in Germany WIHA.
261/PH00 x 40 It's probably this one.

 

Since the heartless horde here won't say it... Rob, I'm so :cry: sorry for your loss.

Your bravery in coming out of the closet like this has given me the courage to admit that I too share your secret screwdriver-love-shame.

Snap-on was my first "relationship" but it turned out everybody had had her. Not to put too fine a point on it she was for sale. Expensive too, dammit.
American I believe...

Wiha was the briefest of flings, wore her out in a few weeks. Over-rated Teutonic tw.. ah, never mind, mustn't be unkind. We're all friends now.

Then I met NIWA. Finely chiselled, even-tempered little stunner from Japan, OO the best I ever handled, always a perfect fit. Some of us need little ones, nothing to be embarrassed about.

Sadly NIWA passed away long ago. Been cloned but the clones are brittle, short-lived and just don't feel the same. Rob knows what I mean.

Some of these facts are not but I'll never tell.

 

Didn't we all go over this like... to death in a thread a year or two ago?

Moody makes a great modular driver and their ESD safe line is simply fabulous; but I still say the Lindstrom Ergos are the most comfortable to use everyday. UNFORTUNATELY - they no longer make anything smaller than a PH0.

After checking on my CF-29, carefully, under magnification, with 2 different screwdriver sets, I can tell you without a doubt that those HD Caddy screws are PH000. The lid and hinge cover screws are PH1 (With 1 stray TX9 in each lower lid bumper - I think from someone's private stash), while the LCD hinge screws and large bottom case screws are PH2. The door hinge screws & bottom cover screws are PH000.

As I cannot suggest a source for my beloved tiny Lindstrom precision screwdrivers except "just get lucky on eBay", I'll have to go with the Moody or the Wiha you've already got as a second choice.

Moody part # for the #000 Philips is 51-2063; Wiha part # for the #000 Philips is 26102. All of them, as well as Lindstrom's current line of screwdrivers and their pliers and cutters (of which I can also say from experience that there is STILL no equal; truly a joy in the hand) are available here in singles and sets:

Stanley Supply & Services - Products and Services for Electronics Manufacture, Assembly, Diagnosis, and Repair

Moody 51-2063:
Moody 51-2063 ERGONOMIC ESD SAFE #000 JIS TYPE S - Stanley Supply & Services

Wiha 26102:
Wiha 26102 PRECISION PHILLIPS DRIVER WIHA SIZE 000 - Stanley Supply & Services

Of course, you can STILL go to your local Home Despot and pick up for approx $6 one of the Husky HD-74501 Modular Philips/Slotted precision screwdrivers to get you by until your "Good" one gets delivered:
http://www.homedepot.com/buy/tools-...llips-and-slotted-screwdriver-set-114521.html

I keep one of those and a HD-74502 Torx version in my field kit at all times:
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...d=10053&langId=-1&keyword=74502&storeId=10051

The bits they use have the right balance of hardness and not-brittleness to last you quite a while, even under everyday use.

Hope this helps,

mnem
*Da Tool-Dwagon*

 

We did indeed. I have both Wiha and Moody. the Moody is preferred, only because they are actually made by well paid Americans about 45 miles South of my house.
Props to you for putting me on to the Huskies, I have the HD-74501 close to hand at all times and it is a very good tool.
Those little Torx screws are factory stock and found on every CF-29 I've ever seen.
I called out the PH0 for the caddy screws only because I field tested on a CF-30 caddy and it seemed to fit best. Hard drive caddy screws are not much of a challenge, those 4 screws that hold the hinge cover/keyboard retainer on the CF-28 will sort the men from the boys.
CAP

 

I believe those Torx screws are there as a reminder that they are the only screws that don't need to be removed to separate the lid halves.

 

Yer welcome for the heads-up; I agree on the Moody Tools being better for us on a global scale as well. The hinge cover screws are a bear; I remember using a Crescent wrench on the hex shaft of my lil' Husky to get the torque needed.

That sortof makes sense, now that you mention it. It just seemed weird that there were only 2 Torx fasteners visible on the entire unit. :laugh:

mnem
*Un-screwed*

 

I think the 00 is too small... I think it was just a single 0 on the size because I have a 00x60mm now and i don't like it... Too small

I will buy a 0 x 50 (looks like they don't have the 60mm length, only the 50mm): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-Tools-...926?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53eb4285ae

I do have a "1" size as well that I use in my electric screwdriver and manually in my Xcelite set too.

 

My every day and shows it is the PH0x50. The 00 I only use under the keyboard....little flat-head silver screws...o.k. some are black, and on some caddies.
PH1 x 80
PH1 X 60
PH0 X 50
PH00 X 60
These four are my main arsenal.

 

See the little flat silver ones you're talking about I use the 0 on, NOT the 00...

the 00 works but I just feel like It'll break too damn easily...

 

Yeah, those little silver ones are all PH#000.

The way to tell is this: If the bit goes all the way to the bottom of the gullet in the screw, it's the right one. It will fit tightly, and it will not wobble in the hole.

You should be able to press on the tail of the screwdriver and feel resistance to wobbling in any lateral direction. If this is not the case, and you don't have a worn out tip on your screwdriver or stripped screw, then you are trying to use the wrong size screwdriver.

You CAN turn these screws with the next size larger; but it doesn't give best grip and you are much more likely to damage screw and/or screwdriver.

mnem
I know... things.

 

What he said. I use phillips bits in a drill to drive saddle screws. You want that puppy bottomed out. Punching an extra hole in your seat leather will ruin your day and 6 hours works and $60 of skirting leather. Don't ask how I know.

Jeff....bottom em'