Booting to pure DOS, CF-19 mk3

Does anyone know how to boot to a pure DOS prompt via USB stick? I have some radio programming software that requires DOS to run. I have a USB key that used to boot the CF-29 and CF-30 but my CF-19 mk3 just skips right past... I can boot a linux USB key though so I know it works.. somehow...

I cannot use the Windows command prompt, must be pure DOS.

 

This is from Ehow.com


Instructions

1 Navigate to the AllBootDisks ISO Image Downloads page (allbootdisks.com/download/iso.html). Click the "DOS6.22_bootdisk.iso" link to download the file and save it to your computer.
2 Download "UNetBootin" ( UNetbootin - Homepage and Downloads). This is a program designed specifically to create a bootable DOS USB drive.
3 Extract all the files from the UNetBootin archive file with an archiving program such as WinRAR, WinZIP or 7-Zip. Launch the "UNetBootin.exe" file once the extraction has finished.
4 Insert a USB flash drive into a free USB port on your computer.
5 Click the "Disk Image" radio button, and click the "..." button. This will open a small dialog box that prompts you to select an ISO file.
6 Navigate to where you saved the DOS 6.22 ISO file. Select the file and click "OK."
7 Click the "USB Drive" option near the bottom of the window and select the drive letter that corresponds to your USB flash drive.
8 Click "OK" to create your bootable USB drive.
9 Restart your computer to boot into the DOS 6.22 environment instead of Windows. You may need to change the boot order in your BIOS so that your computer boots from the USB flash drive.

Bob

 

Then you must install "pure DOS." What runs under Windows 7 is not DOS, it is PE (Preinstalled Environment) and the last time I installed Windows over real DOS was Win98. I am not sure if XP, 7 or 8 will run over DOS. Perhaps you can run it from a virtual box for your application?

 

Try this...I've used this for many years ghosting HDD from a flash drive. The program needed is HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool. Download here https://www.hightail.com/download/ZUcyWmdqb0I5NVVpR01UQw

-Nick

 

Yes, that's why I've used a USB key to boot into pure, real, DOS on my old CF-29 and CF-30. But I can't, for whatever reason, do that on my CF-19 mk3.

My current key works on an HP i5 desktop. On my CF-19 mk3, it hangs right after "Booting MS-DOS" with a blinking cursor. And this includes i58SR's utility too.

 

try RMPrepUSB...it is very versatile..
homepage
• RMPrepUSB - What does it do? - RMPrepUSB

direct download link.....
http://www.rmprepusb.com/documents/...RMPrepUSB_Full_2.1.722.zip?attredirects=0&d=1



from another forum..

Could be the SecureBoot option in the BIOS especially since it came with Win8. Secureboot doesn't allow any nonUEFI compatible OS boot on the computer. You could shut off SecureBoot, but I don't know what effect that would have on Win8.
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more on secure boot..UEFI......from here.. Dealing with UEFI and Secure Boot on Linux [Linux Wiki Guides]

Introduction

The new UEFI specification has changed the method a computer uses to boot its operating system. This has added challenges to running Linux on a PC which uses UEFI. Most/All desktops/laptops which have been preinstalled with Windows 8 now come with UEFI so we will need to deal with this. This guide will try and assist you in getting Linux up and running.
Note

For here on out when we refer to Ubuntu 12.10 that also includes all its derivates (Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Linux Mint, etc.) The exception to this is when we talk about the Ubuntu remix edition.

When we talk about Windows 8 here we will assume it has been installed in UEFI mode, this is normally the case with a pre-installed version of Windows 8.
Warning on Samsung Laptops

A number of users have reported that making changes to a Samsung laptop's UEFI boot options has caused a complete brick of the laptop. Extreme care needs to be taken on these laptop, I would recommend not installing Linux until a proper solution is found.
Dual Booting with Windows 8 vs Standalone Installation

If you are not planning to run Windows 8 alongside your Linux installation then you will have an easier time installing Linux. Dual-Booting Windows 8 does add extra challenges. In this guide we will cover methods of installing Linux dual-booting with Windows 8 and also cover a standalone Linux installation. Windows 7 does not have the same installation challenges that Windows 8 provides and dual-boot is usually handled by the Linux installer.
Secure Boot

Secure boot is a new feature of UEFI, its purpose is to allow only signed bootloaders to boot the system. If you are not going to be running Windows 8 it is recommended, if you can, to turn off this feature in your computers UEFI settings. However we will try and deal with Secure Boot if you require it to be turned on.

At time of writing, I only know of two Linux distributions which support Secure Boot, Ubuntu 12.10 and Fedora 18. I will experiment with other distributions in the future.
Turning off Secure Boot

If you wish to use a Linux distributions which doesn't support Secure Boot then you will need to turn it off in your UEFI settings. There is no standard way of doing this so it's not possible to explain the process here, but typically there is an option for disabling it within your computers UEFI settings. Check your computers manual for details.
Intalling in UEFI vs BIOS mode

Some computers allow you to install the operating system in either UEFI or BIOS/Legacy mode. In this guide we will try and cover both methods, but keep in mind that if your computer was pre-installed with Windows 8 and plan to dual boot then you will need to install in UEFI mode.
Turning off UEFI boot

If you do not wish to use Windows 8 then you may be able to turn off UEFI booting and switch to BIOS/Legacy booting. There is no standard way of doing this so it's not possible to explain the process here, but typically there is an option to enable/disable certain types of booting from within your computers UEFI settings. Look for an option relating to booting methods. Unfortunately not all computers allow you to switch modes, some newer computers may only support UEFI booting.

 

Have you tried it with the hard drive caddy pulled?

 

The HD caddy has nothing to do with it as the USB boot sequence boots the USB key first. DOS doesn't even see the HD.

Anyway, using the HPUSBDisk util and the DOS files included, I've gotten the system to boot! YAY!
But the program freezes after the title screen. BOO.
Checked using an old P4 desktop at work, and it works fine on that. Grrr.

 

There is no DOS there, it ended with Win ME. DOS does not run under NTFS. DOS has RAM and HDD limitations that will not run on modern machines. A Command Prompt is not DOS.

 

A simpler solution may be getting a cheap CF18 and make a dedicated DOS machine for your radio programming..

 

I was going to suggest the same. I just bought a spotless MK3 CF-18 digitizer(no touch screen woes) off the flea for $26. I had the caddy in stock. I got it for my friend in California who has been trying to get me to build him a vehicle expedition GPS using a MAC Book. That is definitely a no go due to software just not in existence, never mind the terrible build quality and durability of the MAC. It seems that DOS will not run on a Pentium M machine, the cutoff seems to be Pentium III. I have, and you may have for shipping cost, a decent CF-28 MK2 which does have a Pentium III processor.
CAP

 

If you are trying to run RSS or MRSS this thread is one of the dumber I have seen. THERE IS NO DOS THERE. The machine can be no faster for RSS/MRSS than a P75 or 486 133MHz. Anything else will brick the radio. Trying to run DOS in a virtual box will, sooner or later, brick the radio. If you try to use a USB to serial converter, sooner or later, you will brick the radio. If you are running CPS, well you don't need DOS, CPS will not run under it, it needs Windows and will run on a modern computer. I know this from programming hundreds of radios.

Shawn and the Captain are correct! Get an old PC, with a 486 or P75 and a real serial port, they are super cheap and use that for programming.

If it is not Batwing, I have no idea what you need! But, I know Batwing... Either way, unless the machine originally came with WinMe or earlier FAT based OS (and then from 98 up, it is not likely...), there is NO DOS THERE.

Frankly, this thread has made me feel like I am taking crazy pills! (loL)

 

Relented and got an old Thinkpad to do it.

It's MRSS but I've done literally hundreds of Jedis with my previous CF-30. I'm not doing any MCX... Radius, Spectras, Jedis all programmed fine. Never bricked or failed read/write a single (working) radio. Which is why I expected the CF-19 to do ok as well.

 

Glad to hear that you are up and running. But I stand by what I have said regarding computer speed and it would be hard to find a Motorola Shop that has not done the same thing that you have, get an old cheap slow PC!

I am kind of impressed with my new XPR7550 MotoTrbo radio for just that reason, programs fine with my CF-30, via CPS not MRSS/RSS, and uses Bluetooth, not serial, for the programming link!