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    Buying a GPS for a CF-19?

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by Mr.Tough, Sep 17, 2011.

  1. Mr.Tough

    Mr.Tough Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,

    I am in need of a GPS for my Toughbook CF-19 mk1.

    As I have understood there're two solutions, either a Gobi-card with GPS or the factory GPS-module.

    I have looked at eBay and the Gobi2000-card seems much cheaper. (and nothing sticks out of the computer :) ) The question that I have is if I can buy any gobi-card or do I have to buy one that says that it works with Panasonic computers? There is a $75 difference, (shipping included).

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. TopCop1988

    TopCop1988 Toughbook Aficionado

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    Well; you can go aftermarket:

    GPS kit for Panasonic Toughbook CF-19
    , :)

    or factory:

    CF 19 Panasonic Toughbook OEM GPS receiver & antenna. :eek:
     
  3. Rob

    Rob Toughbook Aficionado

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    I have these in stock. As I've sold to kb9kst has just bought one for $175/shipped. I will hold the same price for any other NBR or TBT guy :)

    Thanks
     
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    Mr.Tough Notebook Enthusiast

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    Oh, that's a good price, but I will have to think about it.

    But, if we back up to the cheaper alternative, does any one know the precision of the GPS in the Gobi2000? Is it enough to use in a car and navigate by?

    And can I buy just any Gobi2000 card, will they work? There's a guy at eBay who sells them for $99 and he says that it works with panasonic, but it feels expensive. Could I instead just buy any Gobi2000-card for $40 and get it working?

    Thanks,
     
  5. Rob

    Rob Toughbook Aficionado

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    This is always the question at lately. Gobi2000 GPS VS OEM GPS:

    I can tell you a few things based on the fact that I have BOTH in my CF-31! The OEM is MUCH faster at locking sats. It's a little more accurate too. For normal street navigation the GOBI 2000 one works just fine. HOWEVER, for my marine navigation system when I operate at NIGHT and I rely SOLELY and ONLY on the GPS, I prefer to use the OEM one built into my 31. One mistake on the water at night could prove to be detrimental to your health if you know what I mean.

    Thanks
     
  6. ohlip

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    One thing to remember, those gps from WWAN card like gobi works only if you have an activated card. Correct me if I'm wrong but thats what I know about it. It also rely on networks signal not just like the stand alone gps receiver builtin module that the signal came directly from satelite on the outer space. It means no bridge to be exact.


    ohlip
     
  7. Rob

    Rob Toughbook Aficionado

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    This is incorrect. I have LOTS of CF-31's in stock with GOBI 2000 cards in them, NONE of which are actually activated with any service providers and they still work fine (usually on COM17 :confused: )... Anyways, you DO HAVE TO use the CSA (carrier selection application) and select a provider (I usually select Sprint because I'm used to it), but once you do that, you don't need to have anything Sprint related up and running or activated for the GPS to work.

    Thanks
     
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    ohlip Toughbook Modder

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    Rob! I do have 5725 sierra wireless card on my CF-w5. I installed the watcher and under the menu there is a gps option at com7 but when i hit connect. It pop a windows telling me to activate the card :confused:

    Same on Cf-19MK3 that I recently sold with gobi 2000. Can you explain how it works maybe I've missed something here. The csa on the unit is loaded btw.


    ohlip
     
  9. TopCop1988

    TopCop1988 Toughbook Aficionado

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    You cannot get WAAS (Wide Area Augmentation System) accuracy out of a cellular system-based location finding system.

    Better "SmartPhone" cell phones use Assisted GPS (A-GPS) for their "GPS."

    While the WAAS accuracy standard is "a position accuracy of 7.6 metres (25 ft) or better (for both lateral and vertical measurements), at least 95% of the time," I do not know if these is a "standard" on A-GPS. :confused:
     
  10. ohlip

    ohlip Toughbook Modder

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    Thats what I am talking about, to have a builtin Gps rather than to rely on a network signal(WWAN card)


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  11. Rob

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    Teo, the 5725 cards do NOT have true, NORMAL GPS built into them like GOBI 2000 cards do. Sorry, you loose! :D

    ~Rob, starting his night of drinking early!~
     
  12. ohlip

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    I know! Ok! then, I have to attend a friend dinner party tonight as I was invited. Maybe start to drink morethan to a regular one, Lol


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    Depends on the card and carrier:

    GPS functionality on MC5725
     
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    Also with a WWAN card (mine is a Sprint MC5725 from a 595U) you have to physically turn on the the GPS everytime you turn the computer on. Could be a drawback if your running an app that is in the start up group and looks for GPS right away.

    Jason
     
  15. Mr.Tough

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    Hello again,

    It sounds like a Gobi2000 is sufficient for me, it will be several years before I think that a real GPS will be of interest and when I do, I believe that a CF-30 might be better for those purposes.

    But I am not prepared to pay $99 plus shipping for a Gobi-card, if so I would rather pay more for Rob's real GPS. :)

    So I would want my first question answered if anyone has any ideas. Are the cards locked to specific computer brands?

    -Would this card work?
    Qualcomm Gobi 2000 HP UN2420 WWAN Card 4 DM1 5310M DM3 | eBay

    Or would I have to buy this to get it working?
    Panasonic Toughbook CF-19 for Gobi2000 HSPA/EV-DO+GPS | eBay

    Thanks,