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    CF 29 Non touch LCD part number

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by Shawn, Feb 20, 2011.

  1. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    What's the manufacturers (not Panasonic) part number for a non touch Lcd? I wanna pull the non working touch out and replace it with a standard lcd panel. Unless someone has a whole non touch lid for cheap.

    Thanks
     
  2. SHEEPMAN!

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    I just pulled the lid apart and ripped the back layer of the touch panel out. It's about twice as thick as the screen protector. There's more to the story than that but this is the short version. Made thing all bright and shiny. But I don't know what I'm doing. :D
     
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    From what I have read here, the non touch lcd's have a hard plastic cover that is in the front of the lcd. The touch versions have the touch panel in place of the hard plastic to protect the lcd.
    What's the part number on the lcd of the touch panel version? For example L133X09
     
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    They are all Samsung panels, and as far as I know the touch and non-touch in each series have the same part # for the lcd
    The harness is the same for all mk-1-5 so you can't go wrong buying a replacement lcd
    The front panel glass is different between the touch and non-touch model
    The non-touch has a single layer ,the touch add's a scratch sheet + touch panel that slightly reduces screen brightness
     
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    So you are saying the lcd is the same for all cf 29's. Do you happen to know the part number? What about the protector in front of the screen mentioned in other posts? If I buy a bare lcd and swap out the lcd/touch assembly, will I be good to go?
    What I have is a good lcd with a non worky touch that I am about to sell to my bro. If I swap out the lcd to a standard one, I will have the touch assembly to repair or send to Ohlip to repair.
     
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    No, I don't have the part # on hand,the reason is that the whole lid has been cheap enough ,and I find you can't have enough spare sparts lol

    I am not sure on what parts you have and what you want to do

    If your LCD is dead ,you most likely need a replacement LCD as you seem to be asking for or it could be an invertor

    There was a ebay seller that was selling front non-touch outer housing with the non-touch panel
    that would convert a touchcreen to non and you would have a dead panel left over and end up with a brighter display

    Am I making any sence
     
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    I have only 1 complete lcd assembly. non working touch with good lcd. I can get a 13.3 xga lcd for cheap. 90% sure it will work in cf 29. Do I need a different bezel to go from touch to non touch? Is there a clear protector (not usual stick on) that goes in front of non touch.
    What I am trying to do is save the broken touch assembly I have to experiment with like Ohlip did.
     
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    If you are planning on removing the touchpanel that is glued to the front bezel
    You don't need a lcd as they have nothing in front
    No clear protective glass
    No touchscreen that has clear protective glass + a thin plastic scratch sheet

    The LCD will be easily damaged you need glass in front

    Now am I making any more sense
     
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    non touch has glass in front
    touch does not have glass in front
    So if I remove the touch panel, I need to replace it with the glass.
    I would have bought one of those bezels for that price. It would make this simple. Those bezels have the non touch glass in them, correct.

    I re read his complete ad. It explains that they do have a protective glass.
    CF 29's use 1 standard lcd with either a touchpanel or a protective glass in front.
    The touch or glass make it "tough"


    Thanks
     
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    What you will have left over is the bezel and touchpanel , still nicely sealed
     
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    LCD then back layer of touch panel then stiffer "glass" then screen protector. = TS
    LCD then stiffer "glass" then screen protector = Non-touch. I didn't see anything different and I just made a L3L into a LTL. No nothing. Stand by for the only number (found 2) I have and I know it has a 133 in it. The difference in thickness is -.01 inches. (the thickness of the back flappy part of the touch panel.
    It's 29 degrees in the shop. Whewwie! Both LCDs are TFT-LCM TM1133XG-A01-03. Both were behind touch panels. From memory and I couldn't find it but I was freezing the glass on the non-touch was a teensie thicker. The LCDs have a rubber gasket to hold them away from the glass near 1/32.
    Like TC said undo the hinge covers, two screws in the back. Four screws for the top of the hinges. You already rolled the lid and LCD out of the way. Lift the bezel out with the antenna wires. I forgot the keyboard bezel, keyboard, five silver screws in the hatch. Slide new antenna wires in, loop them into the gizmo there. Push the hinges into place and seat the back 2 screws. Lay the bezel flat, roll the LCD into place. WATCH the little rubber spacers on the sides, one is probably on the floor. 2 long two short. The white angle thingees go in with the short sided one on the media bay side. Peek underneath to see if the glass is still flat. There are those four clear plastic invisible spacers that cause you to crack the glass if it's not where it belongs. Twice if you didn't pick up on it the first time. :rolleyes:
     
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    I am sure it's not as complicated / scary as is sounds. Depending on how much sleep I have had.
    Thanks for the tutorial. Once I find a bezel with the glass, I will swap it out.
    29 might be considered a heat wave in some parts of the USA. Northeast USA has been cold this winter.
     
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    If I'm not mistaken several lcd's I've dissambled internals said sanyo and some said samsung. Seems like there was another manufacturer as well but was juggling parts to reassemble a TS finished product that didn't have discoloration on lcd grey areas whatever they're called......Driller
     
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    Do you accept a trade. I do have an OEM non touch panel with a front bezel intact in exchage with your non working Ts panel. Let me know.


    ohlip
     
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    deere, Information only. All you have to do to convert a non-touch to a touch is replace the touch panel and find a TS PCB somewhere. The PCB snaps into place. The wire is already run and neatly taped down where you snap the PCB in place. A little protective tape on the ribbon cable is not out of line. Super simple. Has to be.....I DID IT. :D
     
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    I am going opposite. Touch to non touch.
     
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    That's why I said info only. :)
     
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    @deere245

    The pics and guide are well done...BUT

    You risk cooking the M/B fuse If the battery is not removed first ,and that is not even mentioned in that guide
     
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    Not my page or write up. I just posted the link. It's the same site that has a write up on how to swap a mb in a CF 29. They have some details that are incorrect in their write ups, but they are much better than nothing especially for a newbie looking for pix. I figure with the boards advice and that website, someone could manage fairly well.