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    CF-18 Touchscreen - Palm Rejection?

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by gonsped, Jul 6, 2009.

  1. gonsped

    gonsped Notebook Guru

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    My only touchscreen tablet PC experience is only with the rather expensive Fujitsu P1610 and the latest P1630 with palm rejection technology.

    I am trying to take down notes on the CF-18 Touchscreen with One Note 2003 and its downright impossible to do so without lifting your palm above the screen which makes writing ever more difficult.

    Is there some sort of workaround solution to this touchscreen issue with Panasonic? It would be sad not to be able to write if they don't have some sort of palm rejection software.
     
  2. gonsped

    gonsped Notebook Guru

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    I gather from the lack of response with a good number of viewers on this thread that this is a known issue of Panasonic touchscreens and there is no workaround solution?
     
  3. Alex

    Alex Super Moderator

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    No, there is no solution on your model
    The cf-18 digitizer is the type that would work the best for you, if you could get by with using the stylus
    btw the newest panasonic tablet the cf-19mk3 has a feature that has both a touchscreen and digitizer combined
    I have not used it myself, but I wonder if it has a way of quickly disabling the touch when using the stylus


    Alex
     
  4. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    What I've heard on the Tablet PC UGs I frequent is that they did EXACTLY what I suggested; they've made the TouchScreen disabled any time the Digitizer pen is within an inch or so of the screen.

    mnem
    Dominos Dominus!
     
  5. gonsped

    gonsped Notebook Guru

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    Interesting - so technically if you have the CF-19 with dual touch/digitizer - you really cannot write properly with a normal (non circuitised) stylus?

    I have to commend that the palm rejection technology for the P1610 & P1630 is absolutely great!
     
  6. onirakkiss

    onirakkiss Notebook Deity

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    Yes, u can: use a digitizer!...and so come on with ur great P1610 or P1630... let's go outdoor and playing into the mud :p
     
  7. gonsped

    gonsped Notebook Guru

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    I wasn't comparing the rugged features of the Panasonic with the P1610/30. It just goes to show that Panasonic only fixed the touchscreen issue with a digitizer + a digitizer stylus. Hence with a touchscreen and a standard plastic stylus will have the same palm issues as my CF-18.

    But I can certainly live with the price I paid for my almost new CF-18. A brand new CF-19 is only a little faster + minor addons ie. HSDPA but priced 5-6x more.
     
  8. Zakalwe

    Zakalwe Notebook Consultant

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    I have to say I find my touchscreen to be quite unresponsive to anything that isn't pointy, and writing while keeping my palm on the screen isn't really a problem. I tried getting it to react to my palm, but even a worrying amount of pressure wouldn't suffice. Fingertips (not nails) and knuckles sort of work, when pressing really hard, but this needs quite some effort. A slight tapping only works with a fingernail or the stylus.

    I don't think there is any smarter tech behind this though. Maybe they just turned the sensitivity down for the CF-19. Or maybe I'm just too frail and lightweight. :D
     
  9. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    My personal take on this is:

    Once you've USED a Penabled (digitizer) tablet PC and gotten to the point of using and understanding all its special features, ANY touchscreen seems like a blunt instrument. the ONE good use for touchscreen technology is as implemented on the iPhone; gesture-based object manipulation and of COURSE a SOFTWARE KEYBOARD that ACTUALLY WORKS so you can almost TYPE on it. I'm not saying that it should become a replacement for a keyboard & mouse on your desktop; that's what they make docking stations for.

    But if I could have a Touchscreen on my HP TC1100 AS WELL AS Digitizer, so it had a gesture-based touchscreen you could type on with your fingers, I'd call that the most nearly perfect "laptop" computer possible. This model is almost 6 years old now, and it is STILL one of the BEST implementations of Tablet PC technology out there. It all revolves around growing the huevos to actually ditch the added weight & bulk of keyboard & mouse and LEARN how to use Tablet OS. Of course it has a regular keyboard & pointing device; but that just snaps on/off, and when you're carrying just the tablet, it's all of .8 inches thick and 1.8 LBS- this using technology from 2004... Of course it's hard to sell anything that requires actual LEARNING to the "Pointy-haired Boss" types; so they become a niche market for those who who are looking for something that is actually better - like MAC OS. ;)

    mnem
    Got huevos?
     

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  10. gonsped

    gonsped Notebook Guru

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    Yes, I agree the HP TC1100 was a fantastic design. With touchscreen and possibly a stiffer keyboard (mine was a little skewed), better rubber on the pen grip so it doesn't expand due to heat it'll be one fantastic machine.

    It's funny how all the community in the tablet pc forums all say the good things on the HP TC1100 but HP and other manufacturers are still not listening.

    BTW, the TC1100 is not 1.8Lbs without the keyboard, I recall weighing the unit and its 1.4kg or just above 3Lbs. My Fujitsu P16X0 laptops are all 2.2Lbs and I know the TC1100 is noticeably heavier.
     
  11. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    Mmmhmmm....

    *Pulls out his postal scale*

    You're RIGHT... it's about 1.8KG WITH KB; but 1.4KG w/o, just like you said.

    I wonder where I got that figure from?

    mnem
    Whahwetalkinabout?