CF-18B

Is it possible to use a CF-18B hard drive in a CF-18D with the same specs only difference is the processor? Both have digitizer.

 

Do you mean pull it out with windows installed and put it in the other CF18 without re installing windows?
If that is what you mean then....
Probably..Depends some on the version of windows...Win7 is very forgiving...XP not as much.

 

The 18B drivers will boggle things up,I believe. I tried that and it seems to me it didn't work very well.

 

Yes pull it out and into the other one. Original XP tablet mode installed.
I have done it with other CF-18B's but can only find a D on ebay. The sound and wireless are different models but I can install the correct drivers. Chipset is the same.

 

based on several *swap-outs* in/on/with sundry OSes on sundry machines ...
it is pretty much a mixed bag-o-nuts .
one thing to remember : the "key" for a windows OS is stashed on the HDD and this key is referenced to the "EID" numbers of the motherboard that it was installed with .
in other words : "this particular copy of windows is registered to this particular motherboard along with this particular key" .
this is just one way of how M$ ensures that "one copy on one machine" is maintained .
there are exceptions to this but this is usually found (for example) with/on/pertaining to a batch of corporate machines .
the above information is registered with M$ and checked/pinged frequently , also , the OS "phones home" if it detects a mismatch of information .
the system is pretty thorough and hence makes it difficult to crack and bootleg .

i have had an OS/HDD swap *finally* get to working only to have "this copy of M$ is not genuine" or other similar messages along with "ya got X number of boots before we pull the pin on ya" rear it's ugly head .

 

I have done this between a few 18's, and on some of the ones it worked on/ and on others it won't. If it won't work on the newer machine (Mk1 to Mk2) it will still work and not break anything putting it back into the original machine.

As far as hardware, the CF-18 Mk1 is very close to the Mk2.

Are you trying to "upgrade" machines? Or just don't have a reload disk?

 

This machine never goes online. Its a diesel mechanic diagnostic laptop. The current system has been running for about a year. About a month ago the CMOS battery died causing all sorts of problems with the subscription based software. I got a battery and soldered the leads onto it. Now the CMOS battery is dead again. I figured something is afoul and it would be easier to find another parts laptop. The current CF-18B is the 2nd system the hard drive has been in. So I am looking for another.

 

those lithium coin cells do not like having a lot of heat applied to them ...
did you get a cell with a set of solder tabs attached ?

have you given thought to a CF-30 ?
these are more plentiful on the market .

is the swivel/flippable display a requirement ?

 

I was going to say the upgrade route but the keyword here is "diesel mechanic diagnostic laptop" so he has software that is locked to that kind of pc. But that is a good point if he did heat the battery too much it would drastically shorten the life of the battery. May be best to find one with the wires already.

 

certain cmos batteries for lenovo will fit and are available new for $4... on ebay

 

Too many tangents. All I wanted to know is will a 18B hard drive boot up in a 18D system?
The battery was quickly soldered and waited 30m to soldered the other side. (went to electronics school in the navy)
The diesel software is old and runs on XP. It does not go online or get updated. It does all the things they need it to do and these old dogs dont like new tricks.

 

It's hard to give a definite answer.
Either it will work and you may need to load a couple new drivers, or it will bluescreen. Either way, you will have to reactivate Windows XP because the motherboard is different.

 

heh ... i hear ya ... my stepdad was forge welding axles for model Ts when he started out .
it was difficult to convince him that a *condenser* and a capacitor were one in the same .
however , i learned much from him ... more than a lot of graduates from those high-dollar tech colleges .


the questions and comments stated/asked here are not meant to be tangential ...
they are valid as they pertain to the real problem(s) with the original machine .
it is much the same as the diagnostics/analysis path used on sick and ailing vehicles .

sometimes a full swap-out is faster/more practical than a diagnosis/repair (think short block as opposed to rolling-yer-own) .
sometimes one does not have the option of a new "chunk" (for many reasons) ... and if possible , diagnoses , analysis and repair of the old unit is a possibility .

i have seen a few motherboards that had a screwed up BIOS backup circuit and would flatten a new cell in a fairly short period of time .
the percentage was/is very low ... perhaps four machines over the last 20 years .

 

I will wait till I find an 18B.
I wasn't aware that the MB were different. Now that I know I am not going to chance it.
Some brown clips came off removing cables. Old and brittle I guess as I was gently with them.

 

Uninstall the chipset driver, video driver and others that are not belong to D model. Do it when it is at B model. Then slide it in into the D model. Then install the right driver when it boot up to D model.

ohlip

 

B model is down so cant uninstall drivers.
I found one and is currently on the way.
close thread

 

Donor came today. Swapped out ram and noticed WLAN was different. Old one has Intel WM3B2100NA with Dual Band (wires run on top of MB and connect by the docking port) and donor has Intel WM3A2100NADELL is not dual (wires run under MB). Will it work or do I have to swap that over too?

 

Would you happen to know which model Lenovo I should search for?
As it turns out the date was 2003 in BIOS after I got it up and running. (Just my luck) back to square 1.
I disabled WLAN until I hear a reply.
XP booted, played the music then hung at desktop background with no icons or taskbar for about a minute then everything appeared as normal. No errors or popups.
I found some batteries with the tab. Still looking for direct replacement. Are all the connectors look the same to me on the Lenovos. The pics focus mainly on the battery and not the connector.

 

look at these ..verify the polarity...It may be reversed......

http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=CR2032 IBM CMOS Battery 08K8216 08K8050 92P0986 02K6541&_itemId=350318041751

or this real panasonic for more money
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-CMOS-BA...2K6502-/110347717048?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

 

That real one has the same connector but the one I took out is CR2032 and that is CR2025. I am not sure the difference probable the size/diameter but the 3 volts are the same.
Going with the first one.
Thanks a ton!!

 

CR2025 = Diameter: 20 mm. Thickness: 2.5 mm. Capacity: 160 mAh,

CR2032 = Diameter: 20 mm. Thickness: 3.2 mm. Capacity: 220 mAh

 

just an fyi about the lithium cells pictured above ...
they are the opposite polarity at the connector .

 

Thanks Larry, It's good to mention it again for those not paying attention in class.
I was not sure. That's why I said to check them first. It's easy to swap pins in those connectors..

 

I am going to have to swap pins?
always somethng
I dont have a pin extractor that small.

 

An exacto knife works.. The lock is on the side. All you need to do is lift it slightly and the pin pulls out.

 

Looking at the pics today they dont seem the same.. I can always splice in the old connector.

 

I got it spliced. The connector is a little wider and shorter and did not fit in the motherboard. I played with the cut new connector and was able to pull the pins out by lifting up on the plastic locks after looking at it with a magnifier. Next time will be easier.
Thanks for all the help.