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    CF-19 and BADLY Broken Wireless

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by thewanderlustking, Jul 28, 2015.

  1. thewanderlustking

    thewanderlustking Notebook Evangelist

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    I had posted this up in another thread. I am copying over the pertinent information. The original post is over a year old, and every attempt to fix this has met with failure. Anyways here it is...

    The above thread had lots of good suggestions, none of them have fixed it. I have tackled this multiple times and every few months I get back to trying to fix it. The machine has been operating fine with the broken software being left alone and broken. But I tackled this again this weekend as for the past few weeks my CF-19 has become completely useless on the internet. It was acting like it had been overheating. It would run fins on a new bouts for 15-45 minutes, then get progressively bad up to the point of completely unresponsive when browsing. I started to suspect something was up with internet/browser instead as it ran fin with those applications (mainly IE) closed. That issue is separate though, and likely solved. But since I was doing intensive cleaning, I gave the wireless issues another shot.

    Where we sit now:

    First, I have a recovery point saved to get me back to a broken software/working wireless point. Then with AT&T Communications manager uninstalled it again will not allow me any access to the internet. First it thinks I am on an unknown "public" network, and doesn't let me edit. When I do the troubleshooting, it tells me i do not have a valid IP configuration.

    I have uninstalled all wireless drivers that I can see loaded (there could be some not showing because the sierra wireless card isn't physically in the machine maybe?). I have reinstalled the drivers from Intel. Intel's software does not seem to let me have any "real" control over the card. Windows appears to be in full command. Specifically there is no checkbox inside of the intel software to let windows control the card, or vice versa.

    I am at a loss. If it weren't for the insane amount of trouble it takes to reload Windows 7 on this thing, I would simply wipe it and start over. My backup clone drive failed along with my backup of my backup... I still have my CF-T7 working... I would be able to clone and use that drive in theory, since it was originally a clone of the CF-19... But I think fixing whatever AT&T Communications manager broke, is the best path to take. I am "okay" with the CF-19 being down a while since I now have the CF-30.

    Just throwing the whole drive swapping cloning thing out there since I did get the CF-T7 operational that way, and it is kinda time to play the moving HDD sizes around game.
     
  2. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    refresh us,please,

    full model number?
    OS?
    Is it a genuine Panasonic WWAN card?
    Are you using the Panasonic driver package?
     
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  3. thewanderlustking

    thewanderlustking Notebook Evangelist

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    A thought, the AC890 is a PC Card GPS deal. I can quickly recover back to a broken software working wireless point, and pop that card in and see what happens... Leaving alone for the moment though until I have some good direction to go with. I don't want to reboot and play with recovery anymore than absolutely necessary.
     
  4. thewanderlustking

    thewanderlustking Notebook Evangelist

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    CF-19C6GAXVM
    Windows 7

    Genuine Panny/Intel wireless card. 3945abg adapter.

    WWAN not installed. I broke "software" using the WWAN PCIe slot for a Sierra Wireless 595u card. I think I had also tried the Sierra Wireless AC890 for AT&T. The ONLY reason I had popped these cards in, was to get GPS. When this "mess" gets fixed, I have a crappyish U-Blox card I "might" want to toss in there. AFTER I make a new and clean backup clone...

    BTW I did get both the above cards working. But they didn't work well enough to bother with keeping them in there. Out of the two, the AC890 actually worked much better though. But it seems its software is what killed me.

    I have a full factory GPS setup on my CF-30. I really want the CF-19 to get a much higher update rate setup, maybe even 18hz. So whatever goes in is likely to be temporary. But no more "multifunction" crap from Seirra that kills my normal wireless when I uninstall it....

    W7 was installed before the all-in-one drivers bundles were out (I think anyways). Whatever the case, I had to do the drivers one at a time on the CF-19 following the install sheet. And due to it not being offered with W7, I had a pretty long "build" thread for it here.
     
  5. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    My feeling is that something is so messed up that to me it's time to do a full install. Don't use any backup copy. Use the restore disk....back to XP tablet. You said way back that it worked great with it and thought the problem was with W7. On my 19 MK1 just like yours W7 worked bad, to many problems. My feelings are the MK1 is not meant for W7. My MK2 and up run W7 great.
     
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  6. thewanderlustking

    thewanderlustking Notebook Evangelist

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    No recovery disc, so reinstalling XP is pretty much out of the question. In fact I don't remember what I originally used, but maybe I had downloaded an .iso of the recovery disc or some such thing. Whatever the case, this SHOULD be fixable. I am just missing something.

    This MK1 has run really good on W7, after actually getting it to run on W7... I have only had one real issue other than the wireless being broken by uninstalling AT&T Communications Manager. That would be weird issues I was having with my keyboard becoming unresponsive on the internet. Turns out that was a deeply hidden malware issue.

    With ATTCM installed, but broken, it pops up a screen on each boot asking where a file is. Such file is missing and I have to cancel it. Not a big deal, just annoying. But once I uninstall, it breaks the wireless, and specifically networking and IP configuration. Somebody good with such things, could likely fix this in a minute or two. Networking issues are above my pay-grade though. :(
     
  7. thewanderlustking

    thewanderlustking Notebook Evangelist

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    POSSIBLE PROGRESS!!! I am on the CF-19 right now, and just rebooted NORMALLY with ATTCM uninstalled. I tried again with Revo Uninstaller and apparently did a few things differently. It found LOTS of crap including broken registry files.

    There is one more AT&T program that showed up with Revo. AT&T Wireless Connection Tool. Making a recovery point here and then trying to uninstall that with Revo.
     
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    I think everything is uninstalled and cleaned now, and working whoot! Revo and Windows couldn't find the uninstaller for "Connection Tool" so I let Windows delete it from the program list.

    Revo is a pretty amazing tool for the toolkit! It has been on my "toolkit" thumb drive since it was recommended in the other thread. But it didn't look very familiar. If I had used it before, I was doing something wrong. Whatever the case, I spent a few hours going through and cleaning out suspect things, and I think I found the cause of my internet issues. AVG Had installed a "Secure Search Toolbar" and even though I had disabled it... Seems things were still running in the background.

    And there was 70 "run without permission" internet add-ons from this company "Motive Communications"... I have no idea what those are about, and Google didn't tell me anything useful.

    My CF-30 had acted up for a moment. I suspect it had the AVG toolbar in it prior also. I would have uninstalled that the moment I noticed, hence it not acting up since. Between that and the add-ons, PRETTY sure I found the issue!

    As for the AT&T and Sierra Wireless crap, all sorted out, uninstalled, and wireless doing what it is supposed to.
     
  9. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Good...
    I had a run in with that AVG "Secure Search Toolbar" a while back.......
    • Get SuperAntiSpyware and CCleaner...great pair of programs..
     
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  11. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    i used to use and recommend AVG ... but sometime back they started "screwing up" .
    the constant "nagging" about different stuff was a PITA .
    then it started missing "stuff" .
    i have used ESET "smart security" for about three years ... i am quite pleased with it .
    for a "free" AV , i use "avast" .
     
  12. thewanderlustking

    thewanderlustking Notebook Evangelist

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    I use the heck out of CCleaner. Although I haven't used it recently... It is most likely already installed. Must go take a look. On my Macbook right now, it is so much easier to type on. The Toughbooks get crunchies under the keys lol....

    Things are much better, but defiantly having issues with the IE browser on my CF-19, and to a smaller degree on my CF-30. I will try those out!

    Yeah AVG works nicely, or at least it has worked for me for many years. But the toolbar thing and email scanners and some of those "added" features cause extreme problems. Maybe it is time for a change.
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Comodo internet security free edition..
    Works great on all my machines..I always tweak it some to suit my likes....It's a bit "ambitious" out of the box for me.
    I always turn off auto delete...I want to know what it wants to delete. I disable HIPS and PEP....That's for my personal machine..
    For someone else, I let it set to the default aggressiveness..
     
  14. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    i don't know if i am having problems with the IE browser in vista(less) in my '30 ...
    i used it once to download firefox ... :p :rolleyes:
    i have not had any problems with it .

    "The Toughbooks get crunchies under the keys lol..."
    easy fix ... stop eating potato chips .
    (that bacon and onion dip really gums up the works)