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    CF-19 mk6, cf-31 mk3 throttling and temperature

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by MarkTB, Nov 28, 2017.

  1. MarkTB

    MarkTB Newbie

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    Hi, I have cf-31mk3 if I run a stress test on the CPU or any program that loads the CPU at 100% 2-3 minutes and hi 100 degrees if I run a stress test on the GPU or any game for 5 seconds and hi 100 degrees, it's terrible, the fan buzzing at full power, but the flow of air barely felt by hand. Any solutions to this problem? I will look at the thermal pads in the near future, the fan and radiator are 100% clean.
    And I want to buy cf-19 mk6 with the same processor, who has it? Are there exactly the same problems with cooling? or even worse / better?
     
  2. BaRRmaley

    BaRRmaley Notebook Deity

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    Why do you think it's throttling?
    My home server is 19MK6 and sometimes (video encoding) it's CPU temperature is ~90C during days. It's a powerful CPU inside a fully-rugged laptop, so this situation is predictable.
    100C is ok for this CPU too (up to 105).
    Low airflow? Clean the fan only.
    No problems with cooling on 19mk6 :)
     
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  3. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    Welcome to the Panasonic Toughbook forum.

    Not sure you know this but the CF-19 has no fan.
     
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    BaRRmaley Notebook Deity

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    I'm sure we know :))
     
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    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    True but many don't know this :D
     
  6. MarkTB

    MarkTB Newbie

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    I use the aida64 program to run stress tests, view temperature and throttling and I see that after 100с starts throttlin.
    I checked, the fan 100% super clean
    Nope 100c throttling temperature 105c auto shutdown pc
    well, could you run a couple of CPU tests in AID 64 for me? (or any other benchmark) I'm curious to see how effective passive cooling cf-19 is compared to the active cf-31
    https://www.aida64.com/
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  7. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    FYI.. Changing thermal pads on a CF 31 will involve complete teardown and mainboard removal.

    What OS are you running? Did you install the OS using a factory recovery disc? The recovery discs install Panasonic custom software and drivers for thermal and power management. These are a must for Toughbooks.

    What it the environment setting in the BIOS set to? High temp or normal?

    These fully rugged units are not designed for gaming.
    Wonder if those temperture specs are for active or passive cooling?
     
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  8. MarkTB

    MarkTB Newbie

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    I know, I have changed the thermal pads in the same cf-31, installed windows 7 ultimate sp1, the panasonic driver package is installed too, the high temperature in the BIOS, I understand that they are not for games, but I do not approve the solutions of Panasonic to install powerful processors to where the cooling system is they can not cope
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    What is the outside air temperature where the CF31's are used?
    If it is under 85 degrees F , then set the BIOS setting to NORMAL.
    The high temperature setting is for desert use only.
     
  10. BaRRmaley

    BaRRmaley Notebook Deity

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    But I do :)
    These laptops are just not made for CPU stress tests, they are made for a real work. I'm on MK7 right now, and it's wonderful. Powerful and stable. Yes, I don't mine bitcoins on it :)
     
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  11. MarkTB

    MarkTB Newbie

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    where did you get this information? The high temperature mode is designed to prolong the life of the battery at high temperatures, it charges it no more than 80% at high temperature mode, no more, it's also useful for saving the battery life if you use the laptop constantly from the power adapter, it's written in the manual cf -31
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    How do you think it prolongs battery life......Umm maybe CPU throttling is part of it?

    My yearly speech............
    Basic anawer is Toughbooks are NOT designed for what you are trying to do.
    Panasonic does not give a rat's arse about how we individuals use them.
    They are NOT for gaming or Bitcoin mining.
    Toughbooks are designed for and sold to corporations and government agencies by the 10's of thousands.
    They are designed to run slower than retail laptops. This is done to increase durability. Panasonic has never cared about speed.
    They have one of, if not the best reliabilty ratings of any laptop.
    Average failure rates for "other brands is 15%. Toughbooks are at 3%.

    Old saying is "Get the right tool for the job". If a user is expecting top " balls to the walls" performance from a laptop then move on to a different brand. Toughbooks are NOT going to satisfy you.

    Some reading material for interested readers..

    http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/shareability-test-excalibur.asp

    http://www.govdirect.com/failure-rates-panasonic-vs-the-competition/

    https://www.tessco.com/yts/knowledge_center/su/pdfs/toughbook_advantage_brochure.pdf
     
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  13. MarkTB

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    no also I checked in normal mode
    Panasonic just made the mistake of installing processors more than 10W TDP in such cases, buying a laptop with a powerful processor you hope use on max performance, I checked a few cf-18, cf-30,TDP 10-15 watts no problems with cooling, TDP more than 15 watts there are problems with cooling.


    well, I found out everything I wanted, I think this topic can be closed
     
  14. BaRRmaley

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    Panasonic, do you hear? You've made a mistake. CF-18 had to be your top-of-the-line PC forever!
     
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  15. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    I'm sure this will not last long. But... :biglaugh: