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    CF-191HYAX1M How to Make Sound Stick

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by UNCNDL1, Jun 8, 2017.

  1. UNCNDL1

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    Running Linux MX-16 64 bit found here: https://mxlinux.org/
    It's a great distribution, and everything works out of the box except for sound. Ran down the trouble shoot trail, putting in the windows hard drive and make sure everything is working. Followed up with all the previous reading we've done with no sound issues using Linux as an operating system. Ended up reading some things on the MX-Linux forums and the ALSA: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture
    I ran "alsamixer" in Terminal and then hit f6, and chose not the default, but my sound card which is Intel HDA...then i went in and maxed out the sound on Everything and unmuted Everything...Sound works great, and can listen to sound casts like from this site: http://www.wnyc.org/shows/soundcheck
    or pandora, etc...sound is working great....until I shut her off and go to sleep for the night. Next day, same drill. I have to go into Terminal and run Alsamixer once again as Above.
    So, since I could not post this on the Linux threads on toughbooktalk.com, anyone have ideas on how to make my choices "stick" so that it's good to go each day?
     
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    Hmm..

    Looks like I might need to send Jeff my extra CF-19 mk6, so he can figure this out for you..
     
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    Since I'm running MX-16 on nearly everything I must have come up with something.

    You caught me using 53 Jula....my bank machine Linux Mint 17.3 ....installed 5/2014.

    Stand by.

    My MX-16 installs were from your USB. (Cleve) I'm back up on JULA newish MX-16 install.

    Sound works.

    sudo adduser <you> audio
     
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    Try putting a tiny script:

    xterm -e alsactl restore

    in startups
     
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    Attached is a screenshot when running Alsamixer (v.1.0.28) in Terminal. When you hit F6 for the sound card, the default is highlighted. I arrow down to 0 HDA INTEL PCH and hit Enter.
    The Headphon (next to master is muted (MM) as well is the Master
    I hit M key to unmute, then hit arrow up (page up) key on the CF-19 to raise the volume. I also made sure the Auto-Mut is disabled.
    Now the sound works for this session only.
    I will try the above advice and let you know
     

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    tough@tough:~
    $ sudo adduser tough audio
    [sudo] password for tough:
    The user `tough' is already a member of `audio'.



    Thank you, and Yes. I'm an audio member (tough)

    Sound works on the 53J at home with MX-16.
    I'm on the road with this CF-19. The only think I like about it so far is the awesome battery life. Maybe if I had an external mouse that would help things. I'm thinking my next travel assignment in 2 weeks it will be the 53 once again, unless I can find a hard drive caddy for the CF-C2 that's collecting dust.
     
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    I looked for StartUp in the file system (scary stuff) and could not find.
    Attached is a screen shot of my file system
     

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    Startups is not a folder. In Ubuntu (and probably most Gnome-based Debian derivatives) at System>Preferences>Personal>Startup Applications. If MX-16 is KDE based, I imagine it also has a place for startup commands.

    Un-muting in alsamixer and changing sound device to HDA Intel PCH seemed only to work temporarily for me too, even when run as root (sudo). I looked so many places before I found that little command. I'm not sure where I found it, but it permanently fixed my sound problem.

    EDIT: It stores that command at ~/.config/autostart
     
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    Disabling the module "module-device-restore" in /etc/pulse/default.pa solves the "mute" problem. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=183211&p=2

    Open /etc/pulse/default.pa as root.
    Disable (This means comment out ...with ### in front of the selected line)
    I don't know what it did yet I haven't re-booted. :D

    Re-booting now.

    Well buddy it's no worse than it was. Without knowing how the kernel is built on a MK6 this is the best I've got right now.
     
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    So, log into the system as root, and then look in a folder for what you describe and make a change? Looks very dangerous in root mode, I backed out of there and will just live with it unless I can do something like when you save your touchscreen settings in your tutorial.
     
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    FYI, this is what is in the file system that Lefty is talking about above:
    #!/usr/bin/pulseaudio -nF
    #
    # This file is part of PulseAudio.
    #
    # PulseAudio is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
    # under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as published by
    # the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
    # (at your option) any later version.
    #
    # PulseAudio is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
    # WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
    # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU
    # General Public License for more details.
    #
    # You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public License
    # along with PulseAudio; if not, see < http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.

    # This startup script is used only if PulseAudio is started per-user
    # (i.e. not in system mode)

    .nofail

    ### Load something into the sample cache
    #load-sample-lazy x11-bell /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/bell.oga
    #load-sample-lazy pulse-hotplug /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/device-added.oga
    #load-sample-lazy pulse-coldplug /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/device-added.oga
    #load-sample-lazy pulse-access /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/message.oga

    .fail

    ### Automatically restore the volume of streams and devices
    load-module module-device-restore
    load-module module-stream-restore
    load-module module-card-restore

    ### Automatically augment property information from .desktop files
    ### stored in /usr/share/application
    load-module module-augment-properties

    ### Should be after module-*-restore but before module-*-detect
    load-module module-switch-on-port-available

    ### Load audio drivers statically
    ### (it's probably better to not load these drivers manually, but instead
    ### use module-udev-detect -- see below -- for doing this automatically)
    #load-module module-alsa-sink
    #load-module module-alsa-source device=hw:1,0
    #load-module module-oss device="/dev/dsp" sink_name=output source_name=input
    #load-module module-oss-mmap device="/dev/dsp" sink_name=output source_name=input
    #load-module module-null-sink
    #load-module module-pipe-sink

    ### Automatically load driver modules depending on the hardware available
    .ifexists module-udev-detect.so
    load-module module-udev-detect
    .else
    ### Use the static hardware detection module (for systems that lack udev support)
    load-module module-detect
    .endif

    ### Automatically connect sink and source if JACK server is present
    .ifexists module-jackdbus-detect.so
    .nofail
    load-module module-jackdbus-detect channels=2
    .fail
    .endif

    ### Automatically load driver modules for Bluetooth hardware
    .ifexists module-bluetooth-policy.so
    load-module module-bluetooth-policy
    .endif

    .ifexists module-bluetooth-discover.so
    load-module module-bluetooth-discover
    .endif

    ### Load several protocols
    .ifexists module-esound-protocol-unix.so
    load-module module-esound-protocol-unix
    .endif
    load-module module-native-protocol-unix

    ### Network access (may be configured with paprefs, so leave this commented
    ### here if you plan to use paprefs)
    #load-module module-esound-protocol-tcp
    #load-module module-native-protocol-tcp
    #load-module module-zeroconf-publish

    ### Load the RTP receiver module (also configured via paprefs, see above)
    #load-module module-rtp-recv

    ### Load the RTP sender module (also configured via paprefs, see above)
    #load-module module-null-sink sink_name=rtp format=s16be channels=2 rate=44100 sink_properties="device.description='RTP Multicast Sink'"
    #load-module module-rtp-send source=rtp.monitor

    ### Load additional modules from GConf settings. This can be configured with the paprefs tool.
    ### Please keep in mind that the modules configured by paprefs might conflict with manually
    ### loaded modules.
    .ifexists module-gconf.so
    .nofail
    load-module module-gconf
    .fail
    .endif

    ### Automatically restore the default sink/source when changed by the user
    ### during runtime
    ### NOTE: This should be loaded as early as possible so that subsequent modules
    ### that look up the default sink/source get the right value
    load-module module-default-device-restore

    ### Automatically move streams to the default sink if the sink they are
    ### connected to dies, similar for sources
    load-module module-rescue-streams

    ### Make sure we always have a sink around, even if it is a null sink.
    load-module module-always-sink

    ### Honour intended role device property
    load-module module-intended-roles

    ### Automatically suspend sinks/sources that become idle for too long
    load-module module-suspend-on-idle

    ### If autoexit on idle is enabled we want to make sure we only quit
    ### when no local session needs us anymore.
    .ifexists module-console-kit.so
    load-module module-console-kit
    .endif
    .ifexists module-systemd-login.so
    load-module module-systemd-login
    .endif

    ### Enable positioned event sounds
    load-module module-position-event-sounds

    ### Cork music/video streams when a phone stream is active
    load-module module-role-cork

    ### Modules to allow autoloading of filters (such as echo cancellation)
    ### on demand. module-filter-heuristics tries to determine what filters
    ### make sense, and module-filter-apply does the heavy-lifting of
    ### loading modules and rerouting streams.
    load-module module-filter-heuristics
    load-module module-filter-apply

    # X11 modules should not be started from default.pa so that one daemon
    # can be shared by multiple sessions.

    ### Load X11 bell module
    #load-module module-x11-bell sample=x11-bell

    ### Register ourselves in the X11 session manager
    #load-module module-x11-xsmp

    ### Publish connection data in the X11 root window
    #.ifexists module-x11-publish.so
    #.nofail
    #load-module module-x11-publish
    #.fail
    #.endif

    ### Make some devices default
    #set-default-sink output
    #set-default-source input
     
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    It wasn't my idea.

    I tried it before posting it.

    The thing with ### is you add to the line...it is not deleted. Linux ignores lines with ### on them. So, if it doesn't work out refer to your notes and delete ### reboot and hey presto you are broken again. :D

    Try it on a Live USB (Persistent) if in doubt.

    1.) Click File Manager then [File] [open root thunar here]
    2.) Click File System then pulse then default.pa (default.pa opens in leafpad editor)
    3.) Edit the line by adding three ### and a space
    4.) Save and exit.

    You can add another line like "### Here is where I made a change by adding ###"without the quotes.

    It's hardly dangerous at all. :) You won't notice anything unless your sound works after re-boot.....

    THE POINT OF THIS EXERCISE IS TO DELETE WHATEVER WAS RESTORING SOUND TO OFF AFTER REBOOTING. (And this could probably do that....I would say for sure but I don't have a MK-6)

    ### Automatically restore the default sink/source when changed by the user
    ### during runtime
    ### NOTE: This should be loaded as early as possible so that subsequent modules
    ### that look up the default sink/source get the right value
    ### load-module module-default-device-restore
    /\ #SHEEPMAN added ###[space]here
     
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    On systems running systemd, the alsa-store.service is called by shutdown.target

    I don't screw around with these much since it all seems to be working fine with my distro and I'm no systemd expert. I'd probably check the output of
    Code:
    service alsa-store status
    Should be loaded but inactive/dead
    Then check to see if it is linked to shutdown
    Code:
    systemctl show -p WantedBy alsa-store
    That's my limited understanding of how things work with persistent mixer settings. If the response from the above two commands ain't right, take it from there and try to figure it out.
     
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    Thank you Lefty and ko-niner...here's what Terminal says:
    tough@tough:~
    $ service alsa-store status
    alsa-store: unrecognized service
    tough@tough:~
    $
    Jeff, I understand completely, you had a MK 6 once, maybe once again you will again. They are half price now. I'm happy doing what it takes to listen to npr music on this little beast in Terminal, but I'm always taking the time to make it better...
     
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    alsa-store service should be part of the alsa-utils package in most distros. I suppose you would use the MX16 package manager to search for and install it.

    Sorry I can't be more specific. Never used MX16, antiX or MEPIS. J'd would know better.
     
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    $ service alsa-store status
    alsa-store: unrecognized service

    I have installed alsa in the past and everything worked except alsa store.......and restore.

    Hey Cleve when you type [menu] MX Select Sound what does the window tell you?

    MX-16 boasts on no systemd. Uses sysVinit? I think........

    "Built on the reliable and stable Debian Jessie (8.6) base with extra enhancements from the antiX live system, it also comes with numerous up to date applications provided by the MX Linux packagers. Just like previous versions of MX, this release defaults to sysVinit," reads the announcement on the distro's website."

    Anti-x pronounced anteeks.
     
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    Jeff may have a mk6 very soon. :D
    Once I get things together enough and the Dr appts slow down. I can "loan" him one for testing purposes.
     
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    In that case, storing and restoring is handled by the /etc/init.d/alsa-utils init script, or something similar to /etc/rcX.d/K50alsa-utils in the sysv-rc variants.

    Either way, systemd or sysvinit, these scripts should be part of the alsa-utils package. Make sure that is installed.
     
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    Typing in my select sound says "only one sound card found"
    I will follow ko-niner advice above and report back


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
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    Alsa-utils is installed.


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    To be clear, are you saying that you just installed alsa-utils or that they were already installed?
     
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    Sorry, it was already Installed. Stock install from May with all updates.


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    On my system, the alsa-store and alsa-restore services are installed as part of the alsa-utils package. It appears it wasn't installed in yours. Do you have alsa-restore?
    Code:
    service alsa-restore status
    Another thing you can do is figure out if the files are provided and by which package.
    Install apt-file (if not already installed)
    Run these as root or sudo
    Code:
    apt-get install apt-file
    apt-file update
    apt-file search alsa-store
    apt-file search alsa-restore
    The long way around this would be to create or copy then install the sysv init files by hand.
     
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    Good basic stuff here ko-. I've never seen this.

    Thanks.
     
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    Glad to help. Are you running MX16? Care to apt-file your way to these file's origins if you are?
     
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    Sure. I'll find a drive that I haven't tweaked too much.

    Code:
    $ apt-get install apt-file
    E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
    E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
    tough@mx:~
    $ sudo apt-get install apt-file
    [sudo] password for tough:
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree      
    Reading state information... Done
    The following extra packages will be installed:
      libapt-pkg-perl libconfig-file-perl libregexp-assemble-perl
    The following NEW packages will be installed:
      apt-file libapt-pkg-perl libconfig-file-perl libregexp-assemble-perl
    0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
    Need to get 208 kB of archives.
    After this operation, 577 kB of additional disk space will be used.
    Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
    Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main libconfig-file-perl all 1.50-2 [10.0 kB]
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    Get:4 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main apt-file all 2.5.4 [29.9 kB]
    Fetched 208 kB in 1s (111 kB/s)  
    Selecting previously unselected package libconfig-file-perl.
    (Reading database ... 172036 files and directories currently installed.)
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    The system-wide cache is empty. You may want to run 'apt-file update'
    as root to update the cache. You can also run 'apt-file update' as
    normal user to use a cache in the user's home directory.
    tough@mx:~
    $ sudo apt-file update
    Ignoring source without Contents File:
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    tough@mx:~
    $ apt-file update
    apt-file is now using the user's cache directory.
    If you want to switch back to the system-wide cache directory,
     run 'apt-file purge'
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    tough@mx:~
    $ apt-file search alsa-store
    alsa-utils: /lib/systemd/system/alsa-store.service
    alsa-utils: /lib/systemd/system/shutdown.target.wants/alsa-store.service
    tough@mx:~
    $ apt-file search alsa-restore
    alsa-utils: /lib/systemd/system/alsa-restore.service
    alsa-utils: /lib/systemd/system/basic.target.wants/alsa-restore.service
    alsa-utils: /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.rules
    tough@mx:~
    
     
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    I think I get it. alsa-utils doesn't install sysv init files any more and only supports systemd and I'm guessing they're grabbing the packages straight from the Debian repos. (welcome to the future)

    This means to get persistent sound settings, init scripts will have to be written and installed by hand or use some other method to run the appropriate alsactl store/restore commands during bootup and shutdown.

    In reality, MX16 maintainers should have stayed on top of this.
     
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    I'll have a CF-19 in a few days...and try to answer the original question.
    Yes they should have....possibly may have already.
    Oh the woes of a package maintainer.....
    1. My computer makes noise.
    2. My computer doesn't make noise.
    3. The screen is ____________ and I want _________ insert favorite color.
    4. Etc.

    All I want is for the thing to leave USB alone so I can play with WWAN and GPS. :) (systemctl/systemd)

    No worries, my computers work.....but whether I can tell someone else how is debatable.....Hey! I know......
    AS SOON AS YOU SPEND 36 HOURS RESEARCHING A SINGLE TOPIC, THEN CALL ME AND I'LL TELL YOU THE FIX OR WHO TO CALL.
    The "gargler" can be your friend if you ask the right question....and don't let squirrels distract you.

    gargler=google
     
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    Oh really I thought The Gargler was some DC Comics super villain.
     
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    Hmmmmm.....is there a difference?
     
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    uuuhhh ... errr ... ummm ...
    oh , never mind ...
    i digress .
     
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    Chief Squirrel says "yer welcome" :cool:

    Don't be gittin Linux tracks all over that 19.
     
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    Was that a
    CF-191HY$69M? (insider joke)
     
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    I be keepin that CF-191HY$69M fer myself.
    You be gittin anudder one.
    Actually it was yours in the first place until you and I engineered the locked BIOS to tranform into magic smoke.

    New MB/GPS/FPR and Bob's our uncle.
    I thin I added dual touch.That means you can type with 2 fingers doesn't it?

    didn't I have an appt with that Dr last week?
    I'm sure he was a MB.FPR.GPS
     
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    Wow... And I thought I was pretty good at reading codes! lol
     
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    mobo gps fingerprint reader.......

    Fix 'em 'til they break r us.
     
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    "Fix 'em 'til they break r us"

    or , "engineer 'em right off the air" .
    :p
     
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    Linux.......




    Figured we needed at least one post that was on topic..
     
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    Heh, well... if I was on topic I'd suggest trying this:
    Editing /etc/rc.local to add alsactl restore when the system boots. I'd put that right above the exit 0.
    Editing /etc/init.d/reboot and /etc/init.d/halt to add alsactl store for reboot and shutdown. I figure that would go somewhere in the do_stop functions, right above the reboot and halt commands.

    Looks like sort of a kludge.

    UNCDL1, let me know if you want to try this and don't understand my gibberish.
     
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    Go ahead kludge.

    CF-193H101FW

    New install off of persistent disk.

    Alsa store and restore missing...I'll sort that first.....
     
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    O.K. they are not missing.
    tough@196:~

    Code:
    tough@196:~
    $ sudo apt-file search alsa-store
    alsa-utils: /lib/systemd/system/alsa-store.service
    alsa-utils: /lib/systemd/system/shutdown.target.wants/alsa-store.service
    tough@196:~
    $ sudo apt-file search alsa-restore
    alsa-utils: /lib/systemd/system/alsa-restore.service
    alsa-utils: /lib/systemd/system/basic.target.wants/alsa-restore.service
    alsa-utils: /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.rules
    tough@196:~
    
    Code:
    [Unit]
    Description=Sound Card
    Documentation=man:systemd.special(7)
    StopWhenUnneeded=yes

    Code:
    $ sudo apt-file search systemd/system/alsa
    alsa-utils: /lib/systemd/system/alsa-restore.service
    alsa-utils: /lib/systemd/system/alsa-state.service
    alsa-utils: /lib/systemd/system/alsa-store.service
    alsa-utils: /lib/systemd/system/alsa-utils.service
    
    FYI
     
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    Double post to avoid the kludge.

    1. Sound turned on with
    Code:
    alsactl init
    the first time.
    2.
    Code:
    alsactl restore
    after that.

    alsactl store insists on sudo....

    (btw alsamixer shows pulse audio as a sound card) ((the rc.local edit seemed to have no effect))
     
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    Thanks again from North South East & West. I popped the SSD out of the CF-19 and into the CF-53 and sounds works just dandy. The 53 is a much better beast for my travels with the expense reports done in citrix and oracle. I like the speed of the CF-19 but the screen got tedious with the expense reports, etc. I'm guessing the original sound problem in the 19, must be "hardware" as out of the box MX-16 does not work with sound however the hard drive in the 53 sound works just dandy.
     
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    Not missing but they are systemd files, not sysv init scripts. But anyway if the OP got it to work, albeit on a 53, it may just mean that I am wrong.
     
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    try this..
    [​IMG]
     
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    So what is the mk of the 19 and the mk of the 53?
    I want to post a hardware comparison.
     
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    CF-191DC02FT
    CF-53 has Realtek ALC269VB
    and Cougar Point HDMI

    I'll post it later from the CF-53's.
     
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    CF-191HYAX1M is the unit this thread started with.
    CF-53JJCZF1M is the unit ssd from 19 works just fine in.
    Sorry Shawn, I don't know what MK they are.
     
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