CF-20

The Toughbook 20 is a fully rugged, lightweight detachable laptop with a removable keyboard that transforms
into a fully functioning tablet with just one hand. It is the first fully rugged detachable laptop in the market and
features a magnesium alloy chassis and durable MIL
STD 810G and IP65 design.
At only 3.9 pounds, it’s good on the go with a clever built in handle that also functions as a kickstand, an optional bridge battery which allows hot swappable battery replacement without disruption and the broadest range of ports and integrated options in
its class. The Panasonic Toughbook 20 comes with a display that allows you to touch the screen with or without gloves. Its sunlight
viewable 800 nit IPS alpha display with direct bonding enables wider viewing angles and richer colors.

The fully rugged detachable laptop is purpose-built for mobile workers, delivering features that enable
productivity both in and out of doors, including a 10.1” sunlight-viewable 800 nit IPS display with gloved
multi touch capabilities, a waterproof stylus pen and a backlit keyboard that is 16 percent larger than the
Toughbook® 19. The standard 2MP webcam and optional 8MP rear camera expand communications
options for field workers. The device’s optional bridge battery allows for continuous operation and the
optional second battery (located in keyboard dock) doubles battery life and can also be swapped between
the tablet and keyboard dock.


Optional features include a true serial port, magstripe reader, 1D/2D capable barcode reader, dedicated
GPS or 4G LTE multi carrier modem to ensure the Toughbook 20 provides the versatility needed to
complete any task in the field. At a mere 3.9 pounds (2.1 lbs. for the tablet only), the device is
exceptionally portable.


The Toughbook 20 comes with all of the advanced security features users expect from Windows devices
and 6th Generation Intel R CoreTM vProTM processor technology, plus integrated options such as insertable
or contactless SmartCard readers, fingerprint readers for maximum flexibility for dual factor
authentication. The device also includes dual Kensington lock slots - one that secures the tablet and the
keyboard and a second for the keyboard dock only.


The Toughbook 20 is supported by a broad selection of accessories, including a desktop dock, vehicle
docks, rotating hand strap, 4-bay battery charger, vehicle charger, carrying cases and replacement items
such as waterproof stylus pens for digitizers, tethers, protective screen films, batteries and AC adapters.


Panasonic Toughbook 20: Key Features
Versatility: World’s first fully rugged detachable PC, combining the best features of laptop and tablet.
Processor: Intel® CoreTM m5-6Y57 vProTM Processor (4MB cache, 1.1GHz up to 2.8 GHz with Intel®
Turbo Boost Technology).
Operating System: Windows 10 Pro operating system with option to downgrade to Windows 7.
Display: 10.1” WUXGA 1920 x 1200 (224 PPI) sunlight-viewable 800 nit IPS display
Memory & Storage: 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD (upgradeable to 256GB or 512GB).
Graphics: Intel® HD Graphics 515.
Battery Life: An identical, removable, full-shift 2600mAh battery comes standard in the tablet and as
an option in the keyboard dock
Hot Swappable: Optional bridge battery allows batteries to be hot swapped for continuous use.
Durability: Designed to meet MIL-STD-810G, MIL-STD-461F and IP65.
Connectivity: A variety of ports on both tablet and keyboard dock for maximum portability and
flexibility including USB (including one high powered 1.5A USB), SDXC, HDMI, VGA, Serial, Ethernet,
Wireless: 802.11ac Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Dual Pass Antenna, optional 4G LTE multi carrier or Dedicated
GPS.

 

Wow that sounds and looks great but I think they could of done better to install a better Web cam and camera

 

How long do we have to wait for this baby?

 

No word yet, just know it's coming soon

 

Official release is Monday 11-9-2015

 

groovy

 

I figured the search ninja would find out when

 

Source?

Most of what I've been reading says February 2016.

 

so what will the starting price be?

 

The official press release has a date of 11-9-2015 on the top.

 

For anyone else who may be looking, here is the url to the official press release (gotta copy/paste. it isn't behaving as a link): ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/computer/toughbook20/toughbook-20_launch_pr.pdf

11-9-2015 is the date of the press release (today). If you scroll down to the "Pricing and Availability" section, it says it will be available February 2016 with a starting price around $3,099.

I hate to do this, Shawn, but I have to temporarily suspend your ninja license.

 

Here's Panasonic's page for the Toughbook 20, which includes lots of purdy product pictures: http://business.panasonic.com/toughbook/2-in-1-hybrid-detachable-laptop-toughbook-20.html

 

Something I just noticed...

wonder where they got that idea from ​

 

CF31 later mks have been using a Ublox for a while now.

 

That I did not know. When it comes to the 31 it's still high priced for me for a good one.

 

Bet I know where you can get one.

 

Sorry but broke now after someone had fun cleaning out my Amazon account

 

I'll have one ready to go in a week or two.

 

The main reason why I never looked at the 31 is because of the size. My 19 fits perfect in my Dodge Dakota center console.

 

Get a bigger truck.

 

Been looking but some you need to take out a mortgage to pay for it .

 

Most of the 31's I have seen don't have the dedicated graphics. I would want at least 6750 or 7750 version. Since I sold my Mk3 19 I am kind of torn on a new i5 Mk5 or higher 19 as well. Too many choices. lol

 

The CF19 with i5 is nice and fast. But if I had to chose, I would go for the CF31.
The CF31 is a newer design. It is much better than a CF30.
The CF19 is 7 generations old. The little details are showing the age.

 

If you are talking MK's s as generations then it's 8. We have just upgraded our 19's to MK8's as I see not difference between them and my MK5.

 

Yes I meant generations as in mk's.
That's sort of my point the mk8's are for the most part physically the same as a mk1. And those are very, very close to a CF18...The design is a 2006 design with only very small changes / improvements. 9 years is a long time without any major design improvements.
Don't get me wrong, I like my CF19, but if I had to CHOSE, I would chose the CF31 over the CF19.

FYI.......CF31 was designed in 2012..

 

What's wrong with the CF-19? I'd rather stay with a single form factor than buying new peripherals or adapters every time there's a new product out *coughapplecough* It's an industrial business product, not about being the latest and greatest - companies and organizations spend tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars on a system and change is expensive not only on capital purchase but retraining, config, IT support, etc.

 

No one seems to understand what I am saying...
It's not what is WRONG with a CF19...It's what could be IMPROVED on a CF19.
The keyboard layout first of all..Lose the goofy L shaped arrow keys and go with a more standard layout like the M34.
The looks of the entire lid and antenna covers have room for major styling improvement.
A redesign of the port covers like the CF 31 would be great.
Maybe eliminate the troublesome hinge / wiring and go with a lid that could be removed and replaced into the tablet position?

 

i thought about posting this as a separate issue ... i think this will work here as the thread has drifted a bit.

the use of a "MKxx" designator is something that has been used for a long time .
usually , it denotes a series of improvements that are incorporated , in part , from changes made during the "life run" of a particular model group .
most times the changes and improvements are denoted by serial number blocks/groups .
RCA (for example) was great for doing this ... i have seen schematics that were good for five "production changes" as denoted by block groupings of serial numbers .
if you did not use the correct schematic , you could wind up chasing your tail or cause more damage .

retooling a production line is time consuming and costly ... keeping track of all the changes is not easy .
and what if a supposed "improvement" turns out to be not-so-hot down the road ?
these are more reasons why several changes to a given run are incorporated by the "field tested" method ...
get enough changes together and cover them under a MKxx version .

 

I think the way Panasonic thinks is "If it's not broken, don't change it". Inprove it.

 

Now if only we could get ATI graphics in a 19...........

 

I had an idea.....ATI on a CF19....Does anyone make a mini PCIE graphics card? Boy that would be slick. Put the updated graphics card in the WWAN slot and boom...In the current stock configuration, the graphics card would have to be USB I/O.

 

I have a Asus XGstation that plugs into the express card slot to do that with a desktop card. But you can only use it on a external screen for the boost in graphics power. That is one reason I like the new alienwares where they have a special plug in the back where you can plug into a external dock for a desktop card, and play it back on your laptop screen.

 

Is there an echo in here?

 

No, but there is a crappy internet connection at work. I am lucky the forums load. It's one good DSL connection speed, BUT has close to 100 people on it right now. The ship I am on now can have close to 250 on at one time.

(I had went back and edited the post to make it more useful.)

 

Except for price, I can't see the benefit of the FZ-G1 over the CF-20. The CF-H2 seems discontinued so this 2 in 1 might replace more than just the CF-19.

 

The CF19 could use a real camera....

 

this..

 

FYI: A bunch of cf-20 information has been consolidated into the "Preliminary CF-20 Guide" post over at TBT:
http://toughbooktalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=2764

 

what this guy says!

Also if they are not worried about continually changing the cosmetic design they can gradually improve the function and allow the function to lead the form.

Plus I've got 5 Toughbooks in the house from Mk1 CF-18 to latest CF-C2 and (with the exception of the CF-18 charger being too low amp to charge the C2) all the chargers are compatible with all the laptops so i have a charger in every room and one in my work bag and can plug them all in anywhere i am. Not a small thing IMO

 

I don't get it. You just described the changes from the CF-19 to the CF-20.

The life of the CF-18/19 design has been about right IMO, because it's so different it somehow avoided looking dated. Laptops like clothes and anything that tries to be fashionable are out of fashion as soon as it moves on, which it does constantly. Its a mugs game. Putting function over form seems to have worked with toughbooks.

 

No way would i choose that combo over the CF-20 especially when its a rubber keyboard.

 

Nobody seems to get it.

Bueller, Bueller, Bueller???

Simply put.
First of all I will offend CF19 lovers. I don't care. It's been a bad couple of days and I have had enough of people in general. (blame it on my stroke if you want)
The CF19 is very dated. It is an old design. It is thick and HEAVY for a tablet/convertable
The hinge idea is very old technology.
The software and drivers are a royal PITA. If they are not perfect, the hardware is FUBAR.
The keyboard sux.
The CF20 beats the CF19 hands down. It's not even close. Then only advantage I see to the CF19 is that with the 4:3 screen it is narrower.
The CF20 is fully rugged, thinner, better screen, way more versatile.

I do not have 2 to 4 thousand to buy a CF20. I will continue to use my CF19 mk4 and be happy with it.
A windows based 10" or larger Toughpad with a good bluetooth keyboard would be much more versatile. Once again, I don't have the money.

If someone wants to trade my CF19 mk4 for a CF20 send me a PM...I'm in......
Otherwise I will suffer on with my CF19 mk4, led backlight, digitizer and touchscreen, Ublox GPS/taoglas antenna, 300gb SSD, 4gb ram, emissive keyboard, fingerprint reader, Intel 6300 wifi with custom 3rd antenna, Bluetooth, CF card to PCMCIA adapter, shoulder strap, X hand strap, smartcard reader, Brand new Japan spec battery, AC/DC charger, all stainless steel socket head screws, Win7 pro......
Oh the struggle........

 

Lol i'm with you. My daily driver 19 does everything i need really well and i love it despite knowing it's less desirable aspects as you mention. One great thing is i know it will be doing it all exactly just as well in a year or two when i pick up a nearly new CF-20 for 1/4 price on ebay that some company bought and put in a cupboard.

Has anyone on here actually bought a new full price toughbook? Its perhaps another unique feature of Toughbooks that plenty get bought and not used so there is no need for individuals to buy new ones to get newer ones

 

"Laptops like clothes and anything that tries to be fashionable"
cue : billy joel ; it's still rock and roll to me .

man , one could look at the '30 and '31 and say that they look as dated as high button shoes ... and they sort of do .
i agree , that there are two very good reasons why these two models and several others are still around and will continue to be so for many years ...
niche build and marketing
basic functionality that encompasses the compatibility and interface functions required by a large percentage of applications

it requires solid research to design comps such as these ...
it takes return on investment to warrant designing/building anything .
it is much cheaper to gear up to build an injection molded clone-grown machine that can readily be adapted to other design upgrades .
think of how many comps (desk and laptop) that look very similar and how many of these different models and makes use the same or slightly modified motherboards .
i would like to see the numbers about the different models of the comps and how many have interchangeable motherboards between models .

 

Larry,
You do have a point. There is one thing we can not know about the CF20. The real world, military/police/taxi/etc durability.

 

I can't see that lasting on the forklifts we have at work. The Hyster forklifts have no shocks and solid rubber tires. The 19MK8 that we have on them take a pounding. We have tried other brand of laptops and only the 19's lasted. We did have 19MK1 but just upgraded to the 19MK8.

 

We've got a contract agency that has some of the FZ-G1's, and when we looked into them, the price point was about the same for the tablet/laptop/mobile dock as it was for a CF-31.

We're testing out another brand of fully rugged 11"-class "convertible" device (you can probably figure out which), and we've got approval to purchase a CF-20 for testing when they are officially released. I have a feeling that the CF-20 will be my new laptop after the testing is over. I'll post some pix and stuff when I get my grubby paws on it.

 

Please do, would like to hear your thoughts on it. I do like the style of it

 

heh ... "duraflame national forest" .

if i had my druthers , i would choose the '20 ...
a much more flexible/utilitarian package .
still , for the most durability , the designs such as the '30 and '31 are the most bulletproof .
it's too bad panasonic does not offer a more modern version of those machines .