CF-28 HD Caddy

Got a guy on eBay selling CF-28/800 MHZ caddies no reserve; only 1 day & change left:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Toughbook-CF-28...ryZ74949QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This guy has 5 of these, so there's enuf to go around...

Hey, question - what is the difference between the 600mhz & 800 mhz caddys? Is the data connector different, or is it possible one could mod(ly) fy a 800 mhz model to fit in a 600mhz?

Thanks,

Paul K - CF-28 NOOB

 

You could probably modify the 800 to fit, but the difference is thickness when screwed together.

I can't recall what I measured them at, but it adds roughly .100" and the 800 caddy is not able to fit in a 600.

 

I think you read it wrong.. it has 5 bids on...but only one is available.......

 

The guy has a total of 6 CF-28 HD Caddy's for sell.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZkpett2000

 

Yup... He started them all at 99 cents... Could be a deal to be had.

 

Modly is correct, there's a very small difference in thickness. The smaller caddy will fit in the larger caddy case but not vice versa. Usually if you cram it in and bent the caddy a little, you can make it fit without hurting the drive but it doesn't always work.

 

I've never found a caddy I couldn't get into my 1 GHz, taken from 600s and 800s.

now let's get back to the auction. It doesn't make sense for us to bid against each other. Are any of you going to bid? I'll put at least $60 on each of these unless one of you wants to bid on them.

 

Ah..ok.. I just looked at the one listing.. Oops...he has them all listed separately..

 

If you get it for $60 I would buy it. I wont bid

 

Any feed back on the second hard drive or sometimes call media bay hard drive for the cf-28? CF-VHD2830U The UK site has them for more money than I can spell

 

Modly - If the only difference in the caddy is mechanical & the data cable will connect from my 600mhz MB to my HD I can make it work; I have Dremel & TIG. >~~~~(;

Grav - I too will give $60 for one of these, plus a little extra for your trouble. I'll stay out of the fray.

 

Yeah, the cable will connect in. If you've got a dremel, you're ahead of the game. It's a very necessary tool for what we do here!

Now a TIG you say... I'm coming over to borrow that

 

Wow.. And my guess is this isn't much different than what I would like to do with all the LS120 caddies I've got lying around! I did a little looking into it, and the problem I'm having is finding an adapter that goes from the CDROM's end of the CDROM cable to the cable's end of the HD cable. (did that make any sense at all?) All the pre-made adapters I found were the opposite polarity.

 

Modly -
Anytime yer in TX, swing by sunny San D@mntonio & look me up... yer welcome to use it anytime, as long as itz in the safety..err... comfort of my own garage/driveway.

Mmmm... sounds like the singles scene here in SA; all the good looking ones are the wrong polarity or at least AC/DC...:twitcy:

But seriously grav - have you tried snurching a CDROM socket from one of the older Gateway laptops? Some of them used a ribbon cable that was standard TEAC slim CDROM d-hood on one end & ATA-6 on the other. Once you have that, figuring out the pinout in the opposite direction to solder to a d-hood from an old CDROM should be doable...

mnem
*Hugs his Fluke 87 close* Now, now Mr Tektronix... don't pout... there's more than enuf geeky lurve to go around...:GEEK:

 

What I think I would need is the connector from a CDROM (or LS120) drive and then solder a cable onto it. I was hoping I could find an adapter like this already made though, as it seems like every other type of adapter has already been done!

 

Grav - I understand what you're saying, but take a look at this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/5x-CPQ-DL380-CD...ryZ56092QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Now if you take an old slimline CDROM apart & plug the connector into this, then wire an IDE-6 cable to it such that the completed cable pins out the same as a regular ATA-6 ribbon cable, I suspect that the part you have just made is the adapter you're looking for!

Just a suggestion,

mnem
Hack the planet? Dewed... I wanna hack the COSMOS...

 

Furthermore... if you need a donor unit, I'll mail you a defunct laptop CDROM drive or two you can rob the connector from... just send me back one of "all those" LS120 caddies you've got lying around - for my own fiendish plans.

mnem

 

I dunno if these will help, but you kindof got me curious on this...

http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/disk-pinout.htm

http://pinouts.ru/DiskCables/cdrom_40to50_pinout.shtml

It DOES appear that the adaptor you are seeking is nowhere to be had, or at least, the perpetrators are keeping it as an "Under Penalty of Death or WORSE" kinda secret. I can't IMAGINE that noone has thought of this besides us; you'd think it would be ALL OVER eBay or somesuch thing...

mnem
How do I set my laser printer to stun?

 

Are you looking for the cd connector or the hard drive connector?

The HD receptacle on the motherboard side is a JAE KX14-50K11DE - from the specs PDF that modly posted.

The HD side plug is a JAE KX15-50KLDLE.

I received a sample of each from JAE and confirmed the KX15 connector does fit the motherboard receptacle. Both are made to attach to a PCB. Now I just need to figure out what to do with them (and find the time to do it).

 

I just discovered something interesting, although I'm not sure it helps us. The CF27 HD caddy connector is the standard notebook CDROM connector. I can plug the HD caddy right into the LS120 and/or CDROM harness.

So now I know I've got a bunch of extra male CDROM plugs on short ribbon cables (from scrap CF27s) if I can think of a way to use them! too bad its the OTHER end that I could really use.. and it doesn't look like it would be much fun to try to desolder them from the LS120 drives!

 

I've seen boards for sale that connect to the 50 pin small connector on the CD side and break it out to the regular IDE with power plugs and master/slave jumpers.
Like this:
http://www.mini-box.com/Slim-Cd-ROM-to-2-5-IDE-Adapter

But that is the motherboard side connector(the KX14) - you would need the hd side (KX15), so that doesn't really help.

 

Well I'm afraid the LS120 project just got a little more complicated. I gutted a LS120 case and stuffed in a CD drive, hoping the computer would recognise it instead of the LS120. Well not only did it not recognise it, when I plug it in the whole thing shuts down and I start to smell something getting "hot". Luckily it doesn't seem to be causing permanent damage. (And I'm just using P-266 CF27s for the test so who cares anyway) Its very repeatable.. LS120 works, CD doesn't. *shrug*

So now I'm taking a fresh look at the LS120 drive itself. I wonder if there's a Linux environment that could live on the LS120? I wonder if I could trick W95/98 into being satisfied with that?

 

Damn Small Linux is only 50 meg, and very full-featured. It will run in ram on a 486. I keep a DSL install on USB key with me, it's great to rescue data from a brain-dead Windows PC. If it hits swap on a LS-120, that would probably slow it down. It might be better to install Damn Small Linux on a USB key, and just use LS-120 for storage, but you'd have a USB key dangling out of it.

I read that Puppy Linux can be installed to LS-120, but I have no experience with that.

For DSL, you can make a boot floppy as well, if it won't boot directly to whatever storage you have it on.

 

I've seen lean builds of Win'98 that only occupy 80-85 megs on HD; however, I dunno if you can configure '98 to place its swapfile anywhere but the boot drive (i'm sure you can tweak the registry to do it somehow... but would it know to look there EVERY time? And then there's apps that address the memory directly...). Added to that the inherent suckage of having to use some form of FAT instead of NTFS for both OSes... well, I would personally rather watch American Idol and drill screws through my feet... actually, being forced to watch American Idol would probably drive me to do exactly that...

mnem
I took the red pill AND the blue pill... now we are unanimous...

 

Hey Grav - Mopuser Electronics has all varieties of the KX-14/15 connector for sale right here:

http://www.mouser.com/catalog/632/1258.pdf

Hope you can find what yer need...

mnem
This space available for timeshare.

 

Sorry, just got one for $78 including shipping. Sweet!

 

Ive had no problems switching different HD caddies between different machines All 28 of course.

 

I've been using a 600 Mhz caddy in my 800 Mhz CF-28 without any problems. The difference is 21mm for the 600 and 23mm for the 800. If you put the 800 caddy into a 600 you will have trouble closing the caddy/ battery cover.

 

Hi i have a CF-28 HD Caddy for 800 to 1000 for sale for 82.00 dollars

 

$82 shipped?

 

hi Toughbook what is your zip code

 

He lives on Mars!

 

No, he's in the hospital for people that THINK they live on mars

 

Seems that LS120 media is not cheap. Must not have been a whole lot of it produced. Oh well..

I'm now coming to the conclusion that the LS120 drive interface is NOT the same as a CDROM. I might spend a little time trying to find out.

I just made another interesting discovery, too. The CF25 didn't use a HD caddy. the HD plugs into a ribbon cable that goes right into the motherboard. (oh, if panasonic hadn't quit doing it that way!) It is a 40-pin cable, just like the little stub that goes from the media pocket board to the little LS120 slimline plug board. So in theory, I should be able to use the CF25 HD cable with the LS120 media pocket board, right? no dice.. same behavior as with a CDROM. plug it in, and it instantly shuts down. Not just the drive, but even the CF25 cable into the media pocket adapter board.

 

grav -

I think thats its way of saying "Don't touch me there"...

mnem