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    CF-30 mk2 doesn't work correctly on Win7 ?

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by Zeewulf, Apr 23, 2016.

  1. Zeewulf

    Zeewulf Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi All,

    I've done a clean install of Vista 32 bit using the factory recovery DVD and then upgraded to win7 pro 32bit. Yet even after using the drivers off the Panasonic website (the bundle option that installs itself) I can't seem to get everything to work correctly.

    What's the correct procedure for installing Win7 on a CF-30 mk2 ?
     
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    Zeewulf Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ideally I'd like to go 64bit on my mk2, but only have the 32bit Vista recovery dvd. I have DVD's for all versions of Win7 so no problem doing a blank install just from them if needed. Just unsure of the correct procedure and which drivers I'd need to get everything to work properly.
     
  3. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Did you right click and install the bundle as an administrator?

    Clean install of win7 pro,
    Then install bundle pack as administrator should work fine.

    Why 64 bit? Unless you have over 6gb of ram, 64bit will be slower than 32bit.
     
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  4. Zeewulf

    Zeewulf Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ram isn't a problem as I have easy access to whatever I need. Installed the bundle as admin also. Yet the wireless/bluetooth switch doesn't work correctly. If i turn the switch on, only the wireless works and I have to go into the program to turn everything else on then restart the laptop. Once this is done it's then the opposite in that it doesn't switch off unless i restart the laptop. Everything works fine if I install vista though via the recovery dvd. Just doesn't if I do a clean win7 install or upgrade the installed vista to win7 via the upgrade option.
     
  5. bennni

    bennni Notebook Evangelist

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    Try Driver Identifier and have it search for drivers? It provides direct links to manufacturer downloads if it finds anything. Just make sure to select the 32bit drivers if you get a choice.
     
  6. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    there have been instances of "driver identifier" being contaminated/a vector for infections .
    a google search of "driver identifier malware" will return a lot of information .

    also ... when it comes to toughbooks ... sticking with the genuine panasonic written/developed/signed drivers is a wise choice .
     
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  7. Zeewulf

    Zeewulf Notebook Enthusiast

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    These are the drivers I need:

    Data Interface
    PCI Data Acquisition and Signal Processing Controller
    Unknown Device: ACPI/MAT0019 *MAT0019
    Unknown Device: ACPI/MAT0021 *MAT0021
     
  8. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    What are you using as a win7 32bit install? Where did you get the iso or DVD?
    Are the wifi / wireless cards all original from a Toughbook?

    Here are the upgrade instructions for a mk3. They are for a manual install of each driver.
    http://pc-dl.panasonic.co.jp/itn/su...ows 7_Upgrade_Step-by-Step_Guide_CF-19_30.pdf

    Basic win7 install info for a mk2
    http://www.toughwiki.com/index.php?title=Windows_7_on_CF30_mk2

    more threads
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...a-cf-30-mk2-in-one-thread-for-newbies.756035/
     
  9. Zeewulf

    Zeewulf Notebook Enthusiast

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    Win7 DVD is a genuine Microsoft one. Wifi/wireless card are genuine Panasonic as everything worked perfectly under Vista. Going to put Vista back on and redo the Win7 upgrade and see what drivers are missing.
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Hotkey drivers.

    Intel thermal management
     
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    bennni Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, I hit up a few search engines and unless I'm missing something, it seems ok. There are two user comments on one site that claim to have been infected but that's it - and I've seen plenty of user comments that say the same thing regarding well known and used, legitimate software. One site reviews Driver Update quite fairly and says they tried to find another *not related to driveridentifier* app which allowed automated updating but that some of them are ad/malware compromised. I went back 9 pages and nothing salient came up and the rest of the results were becoming increasingly spam-like. I'm almost inclined to call your comment out as being nonsense but you have quite a lot of likes and a decent reputation score, so I'm just respectfully going to say that I couldn't verify your claims. Can you point towards the evidence you used to make your claim?
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    If ya don't believe me what the missing drivers are, then run this.
    http://www.halfdone.org/ukd/

    Different people have different definitions of malware. I use a downloader program that is "listed" to contain lots of horrid malware. Well I reinstalled it just to see. It has 2 or 3 bundled add ons which you can decline to install. One is Bing. Now I don't like Bing, nor do I like the "add ons" concept, but in my view, They are a PITA and not really malware.
    True malware is a trojan or spyware, not a search engine change which I can DECLINE to install, IF I READ THE INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS.

    I guess that brings us to the real issue. People do not read the instruction boxes and then complain when they get the extra crap installed. Many internet whiners seem to be lazy and do not pay attention. Of course we get 4-6 posts a week on here of questions that are easily answered in the OWNER MANUAL. ...RTFM...

    These guys need money to develop this software we get for FREE. They have 3 choices.
    One is donations. We know how well THAT works.
    Two is ads built in to the program. That is a DEATH to the program.
    This leaves us option Three. Bundle programs with theirs.
     
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  13. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    not to beat a dying horse but more as a heads up to the individuals that stumble upon this thread while searching for an answer ... and are not as *aware* as others who are more fortunate .
    (as this is one of the few sites that deals with the toughbooks and such)

    i am familiar with the aforementioned program due to removing it from a couple of machines in a business (along with other crap that resulted from the install) .
    the installation log confirms what i was told by the owner : "things went to hell after i installed the program" .
    any program (or site) can be compromised by an entity bent on harm .
    semantics aside ... i consider any program that installs anything other than what i wanted in the first place as "malware" . malevolence is malevolence .
     
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  14. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    BTW, I do agree that "Driver Identifier" can be VERY unfriendly.
     
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    Well, CWB32, you mentioned all of the evidence on Google but I tried to find it and it wasn't forthcoming. Your post stated there was a 'lot of information' to support your claim but I couldn't find it when I actually searched for it.

    Can you give any details of your own experience, please? Your post is vague and I'm interested in some further details as to what actually happened.

    I have no personal interest in the aforementioned app, except good previous experience. I certainly don't want to recommend bad software to people but I also want evidence before I automatically condemn it. You can look up the device details (Available in the Windows hardware manager, usually) yourself and manually search for the download links (Best option). Driver idenitifier just saves the hassle and provides you with download links for any devices that are missing drivers or have none at all, at present. I've seen no evidence of adware or malware as a result and the download links it gives are almost always direct from manufacturers.

    Sorry for thread derailment OP.
     
  16. bennni

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    What makes it unfriendly?
     
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    Not going to argue over specific software.

    The original poster has some other issue going on. The official bundle he installed includes ALL of the proper drivers for his Toughbook. I have used that bundle myself and I know it works. No real need to search for drivers. searching just complicates things.
    If he wants to search go here C:\util and/or C:\util2 The needed drivers are right there.

    Using this sites SEARCH function would have quickly told him what those incorrect drivers are without needing to install ANY driver finder//fixxer//identifier.

    Any "automatic" driver finder and installer is unnecessary for the original poster. They "find" incorrect drivers and make a further mess. Panasonic custom builds most of their drivers. Installing the random drivers that any "automatic" fixer program installs will slow the machine down or cause it to not operate properly. If you don't believe me, get a CF19 and install the latest Intel video driver from the Intel website. You will have a myriad of video problems including a lack of screen rotation, and front buttons that will not work. Install the latest standard Intel chipset and thermal management drivers on any Toughbook. Then observe the heating and power problems.

    A Toughbook is very different from other laptops. Most of the Toughbook drivers are customized. The ONLY place to get proper drivers is from Panasonic. Any other source will cause issues. Why install any program to find drivers when we already know where to get them?
     
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    It isn't an automatic installer - Driveridentifier finds you download links from manufacturer websites (Such as Panasonic...) and you manually download and install them. The links are not obscured and it's a direct link - if it looks like its not from a manufacturer, it's obvious to see. That you don't know this suggests that you actually don't know what you're talking about regarding this software.

    The rest of your points regarding specific Panasonic drivers is fair enough and if it is the case then I retract my previous advice to the OP. I do however find the lack of evidence from yourself and CWB32 regarding Driveridentifier to suggest that your posts regarding it are uninformed.
     
  19. toughasnails

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    Very well said Shawn. I find that Panasonic makes it very easy to find all the drivers you will need all in one spot.

    FYI...."driver identifier malware". This thing will be death to you laptop. some night you will be on the net and these adds will pop up in the corner of your screen trying to sell you something. you go to click on the "X" to close it but instead it takes you to the web site. Oh yes it does not uninstall well...I had to do a full install. I did this many years ago.

    Now you might want to check this one out. @Phoenix he does not like these things at all but some time ago he came across this one DriversCloud - The best FREE Drivers update software . He posted his findings here . http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/driverscloud-the-best-free-drivers-update-software.788623/
     
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    The above quote was just one example. The one I hate the most was the adds that are on the side but when you get close to clicking on the "X" they disappear. It took me a hour to find out how to fix it. On the "sevenforums" they told be to do a format and then reinstall W7.
     
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    Still won't argue specific software packages.
    Ignore list +1
     
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    Follow this precisely and you will not have a problem. I have installed W7 on my CF-30 MK2 numerous times without error. To be honest it's easier to install W7 on my MK2 than my MK3. That MK3 can be a sensitive little thing sometimes....