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    CF-30 mrk3 running windows 7 64 bit

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by Matt Kahle, May 25, 2014.

  1. Matt Kahle

    Matt Kahle Notebook Enthusiast

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    Okay just to let you guys know I have been reading a lot of your posts on the toughbooks and I have loved them a lot and that's why I became a member here. So I saw some posts on loading windows 7 64 bit onto a CF-30 and that there are no drivers or not many that work. I have loaded the 64 bit OS with drivers from the CF-31. As for the inf OS drivers for 64 bit I got them from Intel's downloading site.

    As for the dynamic power application management I had a problem at first and got some memory dumbs...I found out I had a bad down load and was missing some files. After re-downloading the driver I finely got all the files. I checked for it in the reg to make sure it worked*. People say that the hot-keys don't work in 64 bit, I got all of them to work just fine. Every thing worked except I had a problem with the SD dll driver. but, I checked the SD port with a SD card and it recognized it. I didn't get around to up dating the WAN driver which needs a driver. So to sum it up I almost have every thing and it works well. but, I think the possessor is a little unstable...I screwed up I think, I have never loaded an OS on a computer. So when the OS was finished I started with windows update and didn't load drivers for the possessor.

    The laptop got a little hot from loading all those drivers and files the possessor used about 50-70% and a few times it spiked up too 97%. My freind told my I should have loaded cpu drivers first maybe he was right and he told me that I might have hurt or melted my cpu. I did start the OS in safe mode and the cpu stays at a nice 0% with nothing running. I have seen a pc once that had a bad cpu that was melded and it died the day I built it from old parts the cpu was unstable big time then it died after trying to run a game.

    So in a normal start up with nothing running the cpu runs/jumps 0-3 1-3-4% which I don't like. When I run an application the cpu really spikes up too 30-50% but, if I'm just using Oprah browser it jumps a 12-17%. So my big question is just because I can run 64 bit doesn't mean its good? I really wonder if the drivers and the 64 bit is okay for the cf-30. Recent driver from Panasonic were made for 32 bit and there's a reason for that I think. So if you guys are wondering why did he use 64 bit and not 32? I just wanted to see if I could do it.

    I apologize for rambling on about the usage of the cpu I just thought I would put it out there for people to know how it runs.
     
  2. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Deleted incorrect and misleading comments.........

    I was wrong :(
     
  3. Matt Kahle

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    Sorry My writing sucks I hope college will pan that out this fall.
    Um I have 4gb or ram. I did see a post about upgrading to 8gb?
     
  4. SHEEPMAN!

    SHEEPMAN! Freelance

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    Hey Matt...check my signature...My favorite line is
    Buddy, You keep asking and we'll keep answering.

    Welcome to the party.

    Jayburd
     
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  5. Matt Kahle

    Matt Kahle Notebook Enthusiast

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    Okay do you think I could hurt my computer from using drivers from the cf-31?
     
  6. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    Done...:thumbsup:
     
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  7. Azrial

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    But x64 Windows, or Linux for that matter, is a good idea if you have at least 4GB of RAM and anticipate the possibility of adding more.
     
  8. Matt Kahle

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    Well I will have to look into that another time. What type of ram will I need to make it work?
     
  9. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    It's not true :)
    Performance is ~ equal.
    Of course 8GB is better than 4GB (and 16GB is better than 8GB :)), but only in case user really needs to run RAM hungry applications (or many applications at once). I think at least 90% of users do not need more than 4GB.
    It's more correct to tell user doesn't really need 64-bit, if he has less than 4GB RAM and doesn't need to run 64-bit apps.

    Install DOS :)))
    There are too many background processes for 0% CPU in Windows :))
     
  11. Matt Kahle

    Matt Kahle Notebook Enthusiast

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    And you are right I switched the OS back to 32 bit
    and got done late last night.

    The 64 bit really was cool but this is the only computer
    I have at the moment and don't want to destroy it
    by experimenting on it.

    Plus I really did need to find
    a better way to get the 64 bit Os working because
    CPU was really badly unstable by the time I was almost
    done adding all the drivers. (At the end the CPU ran with
    stuff running about 50-70%)
     
  12. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    . I did find some benchmarks and it appears that at 4gb of ram, you are correct. 32bit and 64bit performance is very close.


    Edited to try and dig myself out of the hole I put myself in... :(
     
  13. Matt Kahle

    Matt Kahle Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well I'm sorry If I have been a pain in the neck
    for starting this post and for wasting every ones
    time.

    I just wanted to do something fun that's all.
    I knew that the processor was rated for 64 bit.
    So I though I could try to get the 64 bit OS to
    work.
     
  14. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Nothing personal...I didn't mean to direct that at you..


    My apologies if I offended..


    Dentopedalogy is the science of opening your mouth and putting your foot in it. I’ve been practising it for years.” ~ Prince Philip



    Edited.... Shovel in hand ,,digging my way out.... why is the hole getting deeper?...:(
     
  15. Matt Kahle

    Matt Kahle Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm not offended at all I just don't want to offend
    any one else or you.

    I will keep any posts I make to be of useful things.
     
  16. 48user

    48user Notebook Consultant

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    well I learned that maybe I should go back to 32 bit as I've been running w7 64 bit on a cf-30 mk2 with 4gb of ram for about 3 weeks now, didn't really know, just figured 64 is twice as good as 32. no processor instability on mine, sound is a bit off as it makes a click at startup and shutdown and I never got the hotkey going, but the worst part is I think it consumes more power, I seem to be changing batteries too often..... I really miss XP pro!!!

    I'm sure your processor is fine as I have used mine plenty and never worried about it.
     
  17. Matt Kahle

    Matt Kahle Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well that's cool on a mrk2 :)
    I really like XP pro too but,
    microsoft is not supporting it
    any more.

    I'm having real good luck
    with windows 7 32bit now.
     
  18. Azrial

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    OK, I have been reading this thread for sometime and except for my one little comment, have been silent. But, having started with a 4GB CF-30 and upgraded it to 8GB I think that my opinion may have some relevance. But first to address the OP's comments.

    Matt, I would not worry so much about "melting my CPU" or damaging your Toughbook by adding drivers. I have been working with computers since 1983 and have never heard or seen such a thing. If your Toughbook is running hot it is most likely because someone has taken off the base and not replaced the thermally conductive paste or for some other reason, not due to x64 drivers. I wish you the best with getting it sorted out, this board is the best place on Earth to do that, short of, perhaps, Panasonic.

    You know, I have read that statement here several times and while I normally agree with Shawn, here I must differ. I started with 4GB of RAM on my CF-30 and Win7 and Ubuntu, both x64. I found both to be quite snappy and responsive! After reading statements of others similar to the above I found myself thinking, "wow, their CF-30's must really fly!" And, then I remembered that I had started with x86 on this machine and had seen no discernible difference.

    While getting the x64 bit drivers and such may be a bit more of a bother, frankly, at this point you need only follow in the well worn footsteps of others.

    Here I completely concur with my porcine cousin from the Ukraine! I would like to add that the biggest and most common usage I get of more RAM is when I am doing research and have multiple pages open at the same time.

    Well that's it, my two cents! :D
     
  19. Shawn

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    I surrender........

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  20. nmbushek

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    Guys

    Thanks for all the info.

    I am going to try and tackle loading a TB30 Mk3(k) with W7-64 this weekend.

    Couple of questions:

    -Is 4 gigs of RAM the max that the mobo will support?

    -Which drivers should be used? Pannys official driver site only has up to W7-32 drivers available to download for the Mk3.

    Not sure if I would be better off with W7-32 or 64 though; I am mainly leaning toward the 64 bit since I have a copy of 64 ultimate/enterprise but only professional in the 32 bit flavor.

    Thanks in advance for all your help gentlemen, it is very much appreciated.

    Looking forward to your thoughts and words of wisdom b4 diving into this one

    Have a great evening.

    Nick
    Fully Maxed out 29 Mk5
    Pretty maxed out 31 Mk3
    and the collection continues.....
     
  21. toughasnails

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    I think you should read the start of this thread . W7 64 bit is not for everyone and takes a lot of work getting it up and running. Max memory for 32bit is 4GB and 64 bit is 8GB.
     
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  22. Shawn

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    Just an alternative idea....
    You can get an original win7 32bit restore disk for about $35. Pop it in and 20 minutes later and the CF30 mk3 will be ready to use..


    What's the full model number? Did it come with win7 32 bit originally?
     
  23. capt.dogfish

    capt.dogfish The Curmudgeon

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    Here's a nifty little chart which shows all of the differences in Win 7 versions. If you don't need bit locker (TrueCrypt works fine) you probably don't need Ultimate. Which Windows 7 is right for you? - CNET

    " Although it's possible to conceive of some home uses for Ultimate, the features that separate it from Windows 7 Pro set it in a class that's almost exclusively for intensive international or network use. For most office or home power users, it's not really recommended."
    CAP
     
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    hi all

    I am running win 8 pro 32 bit on 64 bit cpu on cf 30 mk 2 "f series", the cpu usgage chart in task manager isn't that imporatant, look to see what you have installed that is over using resources , the cpu has intel step technology and will vary the GHZ frequency as needed.

    I installed a 32 bit on my 64 bit by mistake, not paying attention, don't want lose $$ invested and it is also a triple boot with vista business 64 bit, win 7.

    on a side note on win 8 pro I started using firefox as IE 11 is very unstable in win 8 pro and causes frozen screens.

    32 bit will run on 32 and 64 bit systems. 64 bit will not run on 32 bit systems only on 64 bit systems.

    32 bit will only see @ 3.7 G mem, hence 4 G limit.

    64 bit will see way past 4 G. but Toughbook cf 30 will only use 4G max any way, some newer desktops will see 64 G mem,........... wonder why :)

    64 bit will run "faster" because instruction sets have a wider "bus" vs 32 bit....................... :)
     
  25. Azrial

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    Shush! Please don't say that so LOUD, my CF-30 does not know this and is happily running 8GB of RAM... :rolleyes:
     
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