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    CF-52, LinuxMint and GPS

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by staffyman, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. staffyman

    staffyman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi peeps,
    I have a CF-52 (CF-52PFN32PE) and have installed LinuxMint 18 on another hdd which I swap out with Windows7. I'm in the process of swapping over to Linux but need to keep Windows as my kids use that at school.

    Everything appears to work fine but I would like to get the GPS (Qualcomm GOBI2000) working. It works fine under Windows but I haven't been successful with Linux.

    As I understand it, the GOBI is a USB device and I've tried the command 'lsusb' but nothing shows that looks like it would be it.

    russ@Toughbook ~ $ lsusb
    Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04da:250e Panasonic (Matsushita)
    Bus 002 Device 003: ID 044e:3001 Alps Electric Co., Ltd UGTZ4 Bluetooth
    Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
    Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
    Bus 001 Device 003: ID 08e6:3437 Gemalto (was Gemplus) GemPC Twin SmartCard Reader
    Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
    Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

    Has anybody got any experience with this?

    I'm a newbie when it comes to Linux so please be gentle with me.

    I've tried a search on here using "CF-52 GPS Linux" and "CF-52 GOBI2000 Linux" but not come up with anything that helps me.
     
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    staffyman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just done 'sudo lshw' and got this info amongst everything else:

    *-usb:1 UNCLAIMED
    description: Generic USB device
    product: Qualcomm Gobi 2000
    vendor: Qualcomm Incorporated
    physical id: 8
    bus info: usb@2:1.8
    version: 0.02
    capabilities: usb-2.00
    configuration: maxpower=500mA speed=480Mbit/s
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Later today my Linux//gps man Sadlmkr will be on to assist you in your journey.
     
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    staffyman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks Shawn. :vbthumbsup:

    Been doing some further searches and I see that you use an external GPS Glonass one which can be picked up rather inexpensively. If I have no luck I may have to look at that instead of the built-in GOBI.
     
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    Install .wine and check back PM (private conversation) I'll put my "tute" together. :D

    You are always better off with a stand-alone gps over the Gobi.

    I can show you how to turn the Gobi on but signals will be nothing like a stand alone.

    See ya.

    jeff
     
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    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    yeppers ... running a windows program under wine and pol might just be the solution .
    i have been trying out several 'nix mint18 based gps programs and the only thing i have really accomplished is consuming a small bottle of aspirin .
    now , it might just be me , but it seems that there is really no *free* one-step *easy* solution .
    there are plenty of free programs as shown here :
    https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Desktop
    but i would have a tough time suggesting any of those i have tried ... including a few that are still in active development .
    there might be one or two that are not listed that i have not tried , so this information will be incomplete and not exactly up-to-date .
    i am certain that jeff can set you straight .
     
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    I'd wait a while on Mint 18......not squeaky clean yet. It might like the 52 but not the mk2 and 3 CF-31.
    I do have it running in a Mark2 CF-29. (long story)

    LinuxMintDebian 17.3 is a.o.k.

    BTW I accidentally went private.....thought I had lost a half hour of typing. :confused:
     
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    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    hmmm ...
    i wonder which MK my '31 is ?
    it (was) running mint 18 without a hitch (that i noticed) ...
    there is one issue though ... the "software search" does not work too well , using the "software package manager" works much better .
     
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    If I recall, it is a mk1
     
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    staffyman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just to keep you informed, Sadlmkr is currently helping me with this via PM.

    I'll let you all know the outcome as and when. :vbthumbsup:
     
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    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    sounds good ...
    i am waiting for a shipment of aspirin before i start back in .
     
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    Youse guys are gonna force me to load Mint 18 on a CF-52. :cool:

    Look at gobi-loader.

    gobi_loader is a firmware loader for Qualcomm Gobi USB chipsets. These
    devices appear in an uninitialised state when power is applied and require
    firmware to be loaded before they can be used as modems. gobi_loader adds a
    udev rule that will trigger loading of the firmware and make the modem usable.

    Still requires the sudo echo "\$GPS_START" > /dev/ttyUSB1 #once per session for GPS.
     
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    All right I dug up the CF-29 MK-2 running Mint 18.

    Gobi-loader is not enabled/installed by default in Mint 18 32 bit.

    That udev rule is the key.
     
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    Save some for me!

    This is giving me a BIG headache now. Beginning to wonder if the GOBI has somehow failed so gonna swap back to Windows7 hdd and make sure it is indeed still working before continuing.
     
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    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    ehhhh ...
    i had a problem with one of those cards ...
    i fought and fought with it .
    finally , i pulled the card thinking that *somehow* there was a piece of *something* that got into the contacts ... that and i remember reading in these forums or elsewhere that these cards will "choke up" sometimes and that pulling/reinstalling them will fix the problem .
    my hassle was on/in/with a '19 i bought from a guy here and i decided to clone the hdd over to a ssd .
    i mean i tried for three days !

    as i said ...
    i have been trying some different 'nix stuff because i *really* want to get away from windows on the comp i use in the plane .
    the reason is (ultimately) using a kit form of a comp (think along the lines of a smartphone) and drive a 9" display .
    this would be a custom build for mounting in the existing space in the cockpit dash .

    So, I've refitted the Windows7 hdd and with this OS in, it shows up in Device Manager. Using VisualGPSview it shows 4 satellites whilst sat in my front room.

    I'm currently downloading Mint17.3 32bit and going to try that. If I can't get that to work then I'm giving up and going down the USB dongle route. :confused:
     
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    staffyman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, I installed LinuxMint 17.3 32bit KDE version (much prefer Cinammon, but I digress) but still cannot get it to work despite it showing up in KInfocenter. :(

    I'll wait and see what Sadlmkr can do and if it doesn't work I give up. USB dongle it will be. A shame as that then means something sticking out the back of the laptop.
     

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    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    i might put mint/another ssd back in the '19 0r 31 ... the '19 would be better as it has a gps similar to yours .
    curiously though , i might give mint a try on the '31 or 30 as these have aftermarket modules .
     
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    Mint 18 on a stick.....now to find the Gobi cards.
     
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    I know it's been a while but I've been ill and pretty much knocked about but I'm back up and running again.

    Did anybody have any luck with this?
     
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    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    i have thrown in the towel trying to get a decent gps/nav program on/via mint18.2 .
    you would think that *someone* would write a competent program .
    i looked for a few hours (off and on) and came up with bupkis .

    a while back i bought a swansong S5 for 100 small pictures (or one big picture) of benny f.
    you would not believe all of the gps/nav programs that are available for android !
    i settled on "us topo maps" for 12 bucks ... there is a crippled/free version as well .
    don't let the name fool ya ... it can access/dl/stash locally a comprehensive list of map types and "overlays" .

    the only kick i have is the small-ish screen size of the S5 ...
    this can be overcome by getting a "smartphonetablet" or a straight tablet comp running android , with a larger screen .
    these are available pretty cheap from "deal extreme" or "aliexpress" .
    (it is a case of "caveat emptor" if you by a 10" lcd tablet for 50 bucks)

    i suppose one could always use an andriod virtual machine via linux ... however ...
    this is or can get to be a royal pain to set up and running correctly .