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    CF19 gps on mk1

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by dukeluca86, Jan 12, 2013.

  1. dukeluca86

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    Is this what you need?

    CF19_PIN_DRAFT_01.jpg
     
  4. dukeluca86

    dukeluca86 Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you guys, yes shwan this is exactly what i was looking for.
     
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    dukeluca86 Notebook Consultant

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    UPDATE i connected my module to the cn902 with the pinout provided in this 3d, the gps is now recognised by the bios (of course only the short on pin 11-12 is recognised).

    In windows xp i can see the COM3 port in device manager, i setted it at 4800bps 8 bit, parity none, 1 stop bit.

    But it will not work, is not working on any program, oziExplorer, winfast nav, visual Gps, none of them.
    I launched a communication with HyperTerminal an it says: "Unable to open COM3, check your com settings"
    I disabled COM PORT B in bios, also tried to set the gps to ENABLE and set the irq manually, nope.
    My com port a have a irq4 is it right ? Help needed !
     
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    Do you see data flow?

    Have you tried resetting back to factory default and rebooting? It may help... But unless you have data flow... You have nothing.
     
  7. dukeluca86

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    No data flow, nothing, but i listened to the phisical out fro the module with an earphone and i can clearly ear the "sound" of the data, obviously without signal, there's no antenna at the moment, how can be ? It sounds like there's some problem with windows or it's driver, it seem that something is keeping the com3 port used, and you certainly know that a co port can be used by only one istance at a time. Toughts ?
     
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    "Process Explorer" from Sysinternals (now Microsoft).

    "Find handle or DLL" -> "\device\serial0" and serial1 .....2, 3
     
  9. dukeluca86

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    Ehm... thank you but can you explain it a little more ?
     
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    U have probably the problem, that ur COM-port is used by an other program, with prcess explorer u can see which one...
    BTW, had u checked the other com-ports with hyperterminal or com-port monitor?
     
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    Yes, in HT i can establish a communication with the other com ports.
    In PE i can see, looking for "com3" that there's a lot of program related to this.
     
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    so kill them all :) look, what happens and if nothing is gone wrong, try HT again
     
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    There's a lot of process, but all named the same:

    HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\COM3

    the problem is that some of this processes are handled by explorer.exe, hkcmd.exe, svchost.exe, etc
     
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    This is not, what u are looking for, HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\COM3 is about the common objectmodel ... :)

    copy -> \device\serial2
    start PE,
    press CTRL+F,
    press CTRL+V
    hit ENTER

    what do u see?
     
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    Is it possible that the 4 dip switches are involved in some ways in this trouble ?
    Additionally now the mouse pointer is going to right-top edge every 5 secons, very frustrating...
     
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    I tried like you said but it can't find anything, neither from serial1 to serial10... What can be ?
     
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    OK, but it is in the wrong side ! How can i do, i looked to the pana site but i can't find anything useful...
     
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    It does not work, is there any other com port in the 19 mk1 ? I mean internal com port, not the com1.
     
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    I found that when i enable the gps, a "microsoft serial ballpoint" come out in device manager on the COM3 port, so i think this is the trouble, that make the pointer crazy and at the same time keep the com3 busy, what's your toughts ?

    The driver for this devices are:

    C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\mouclass.sys
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\semouse.sys

    If i disable this device the pointer stop to be crazy and works fine, but the port remain busy, if i try to unistall it, it will respawn almost istantly and return crazy.
    Can i unistall the driver or are they common to the normal mouse and touch ?
     
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    Sounds like the same gps mouse issue on a cf29..
     
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    It seem i found a solution, i have to do more tests before to be sure, but it's a problem with a bug of windows xp, it seems that is reported on the microsoft site, that a serial device, connected to a com port, if it's powered on when the computer is fired on, will be misrecognized as a serial bus mouse (or trackball) so i should turn the device on only after some time that the computer is switched on, this can be accomplished with a RC timer and a transistor that insert a time costant in the powering up of the module or manually by a switch, turning it on after the computer is powered on.

    I have to test how much this latency time is long, i tried after that windows xp loaded and logged in and worked fine, but i have to test shorter time, for examples about 3 seconds after the firing up of the computer, in this case a rc timer is best, just to avoid to turn it up manually each time, on the other hand if you have a manual switch, you can keep it off while you don't need it, to save battery, not that much, the M87 module with an active antenna, will draw 50mA in the worts condition, but better that nothing.

    I found that other people had this problem, with TB and gps an also with other devices that should be always connected on the com port. This will also occur with a virtual com port (IE bluetooth com), not only with a physical one, but usually virtual port are created on window startup so usually they don't make trouble.
     
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    I can't understand, it worked fine the first time, now it stopped work again... i think it's possessed...

    Can't enstablish a communication with com3 even if the gps is disconnected, maybe a mobo malfunction, i shold try another com port, do you know where is the com port b ? Is it used for port replicator ? Where i can pick up traces on the mobo ?
     
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    SOLVED

    The previously work condition was not due to the retarded ignition of the gps board, but just because it changed the com oport number, i tried to move the gps to com7 and it worked ! For a reason that i can't understand the COM3 give problems on my 19, COM7 instead of COM3 and now works.

    Well i have to add SOLVED to the title of the thread., thank to all of you guys,
     
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    The trouble that you have, had been discussed before. If you could only have time to search. You will find it all. The only problem is the search button is not functioning properly and there some people use the google.

    ohlip
     
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    I am one of these people !
    So it seem to be a proble concerning com3 port, i'm wondering why this port make this trouble. Well now all works fine.
     
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    A conflict from other device or sometimes its resources.

    ohlip
     
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    Yes but it's strange because the port is not listes as busy, but you know, systems are not perfect, expecially talkin about windows.