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    CF30 Touch screen upper lower inaccurate

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by SirJ, Feb 17, 2016.

  1. SirJ

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    The video should explain the touch issue. Ran calibration tool, reinstalled etc.
     
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    Did you follow the instructions to click on each red cross in order?
    Did you then click to save the calibration?
     
  3. SirJ

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    Yea just ran the test again.
    Still is way off in the upper portion and lower portion of screens
     
  4. SHEEPMAN!

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    1. What is bios and ec? Sounds like XP bios and ec and you want Vista.

    2. Type calibrate. Windows calibration screen comes up. Click reset box to wipe settings from registry. Calibrate.

    3. As Shawn said... remember to [SAVE]

    One more thing, what is the machine showing under [HID] in Device Manager? If two generic hid devices than bios and ec are right. If Fujitsu than it's XP Bios.

    No, two things.... DON'T use Panasonic drivers.
     
  5. SirJ

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    So pretty much because this one CF30 has a custom bios which is not touchable. Certain things may not work right? Like touch may be off, GPS may not work. Etc? That sounds like a terrible way to build a laptop.
     
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    What's the news in the device manager? It's the short way of checking the bios. IOW you do not want Fujitsu which clashes with Windows.

    I'll find a W7 disk pretty soon and send a picture.

    Hmmm, you're in California. Drive on up here and we'll sort it out. :D It's worth the trip. Ask Cleve and Kerry. (UNCNDL1 and safn49)

    It's only 544 miles one way. o_O Cleve flew from New Jersey.....or New Something
     
  7. SirJ

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    Yup says Fujitsu under Human Interface Devices. How do I fix that?
    Searching for calibration does not being up actual touch screen settings. This is on w7.
     
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    All is clear. It's an XP bios. Easy way is a new/used mobo replacement.
    Or run MX-14 or MX-15 486 Linux. I like 14. Make a small edit where the Surrender Flag key launches the menu and you won't miss Windows. (also called Windows key)
     
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    We are back to the same issue as before.
    It is an XP BIOS. Win7 will NEVER run properly on it.
    Sadly the fact it is a custom BIOS makes it next to impossible to update the BIOS to something Win7 runs on.

    Panasonic does this for good reasons. They build the majority of the laptops for huge corporations and the US dept of Defense. Both of those entities don't want employees mucking around with the computers. Those entities don't upgrade the operating system, They buy new computers. That's how we get $4000.00 Toughbooks for under $200.00
    They also are built to be software and hardware "bulletproof" Dependability is top priority. These laptops are wonderful to own and modify. They however are NOT a DELL or a HP. Toughbooks are fun and very challenging. I have explained to you about the BIOS upgrade/ Win7, problem several times already. I am not sure how else to explain it.

    Can that custom BIOS in the mk1 be upgraded? Yes, by a skilled technician. Not by the general user.
    The deal then becomes that the technician will charge $100.00 to upgrade it. I know I would.
    You can buy a bare CF30 mk2 or mk3 for less than $100.
    The mk2 and mk3 DO NOT have the BIOS problem when installing Win7 or Win10 for that matter.

    So now you have several choices.
    Buy a motherboard and swap it.
    Install WinXP and learn to be happy with it.
    Install Linux and learn a new operating system. It's easy to learn Linux and it is MUCH faster than Windows.
    Use Win7 without the touchscreen.
     
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    I have a deal on some CF-30 MK1 mobo. Includes full computer with immaculate cases. GPS, Backlit KB, Optical, WWAN. Runs Gobi2000 card good. (On sled)
    I might have a mobo here too if I can find it.
    Meanwhile I'm going to make a MX-14 special USB with all settings (very few) geared to CF-30MK1. It's the first time I tried it so might be a few days. IOW I do the settings and MX-14 automagically burns an iso file with settings intact. Should be fun.
     
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    Am I missing anything by going back to Xp? Why don't you message me privately. This mk1 is as clean as those other $300 eBay machines.
    I payed $65 shipped for a top to bottom clean CF30 mk1 with every possible mod (still haven't finished the GPS install) has Bluetooth, touch, finger print, wwan, dvd burner (I added this). I won't miss windows 7, can we fix all this by going down to vista, or this bios a XP only bios? Why would they ship a custom bios machine with Vista installed? Not trying to beat a dead horse here, I feel this machine is usable. The problem with Linux is a I program Motorola commercial radios and need a Windows machine.
     
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    Yes it is an XP only BIOS.

    XP will run perfectly on that mk1 with that BIOS. Vista will give you the same problems as Win7.
    Run XP with a good firewall and anti virus. Never look back.
    XP is better for radio programing anyway.

    That machine shipped with Win XP installed and a Vista COA.
    I don't know why they put the Vista COA on it. Maybe some Microsoft licensing BS. Panasonic does it quite a bit with a different COA than the OS installed.

    Don't get caught up in the I got to have the latest greatest OS hype.
     
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    All the stuff will still work, GPS, touch, finger rdr etc etc?
    Then I am installing XP black edition.
    Can run a theme manager and make it look like 7.i never really liked windows 7 anyways. The gui is fun for about 20 min, the sounds are fun for 2 minutes.
     
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    With XP you could even use a factory recovery disk. About 20 minutes from blank drive to fully running operating system.

    Yes everything will work with XP. As long as whatever GPS program you chose runs on XP. Maybe a few year old version of Streets and Trips.
     
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    "Linux is a I program Motorola commercial radios"
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    man , were you around when a few outfits had to mod their software to run on ME ?
    we actually used W98 and gave up on the ME crap ...
    with vista it took some time before the OS and software were *workable* .
    yep ... nothing wrong with XP for what you're doing as long as the software is available .
     
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    I have streets and trips 2013 final release. Is there something better up, to date out there?
     
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    That's fine.
    Remember: newer means higher hardware requirements. Also less likelihood of running on Win XP.
     
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    Noticed today outside that the screen has a screen protector on it. I wonder if I should leave it or remove it. It does has some scratches and one thumb smudge that just won't come Off
     
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    leave it until it gets pretty bad .
    have a replacement at hand before you peel off the old one .
    they come off a bit hard sometimes ... a blow-drier will warm and soften the adhesive .
     
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