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    Can CF-18K factory GPS be put in a CF-19F?

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by stumo, Feb 2, 2012.

  1. stumo

    stumo Notebook Consultant

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    Has anyone done this before? I'm hoping for plug 'n play (but obviously the "plug" part will take a good few hours lol)

    Or is there a cheaper/better solution - well it can't be much cheaper than free, since I already have the 18K with GPS.
     
  2. Alecgold

    Alecgold Notebook Evangelist

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    do you have the numbers for the CF-18 and CF-19?
     
  3. stumo

    stumo Notebook Consultant

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    GPS from a CF18KHHQABA into a CF-19FHNANAA
     
  4. stumo

    stumo Notebook Consultant

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    Actually, it seems my CF-19F already has the factory HSPA 3G option, so some of those mPCIe cards already have the (secret) Gobi GPS function no? I will have to wait until it arrives and do some playing first.
     
  5. Alecgold

    Alecgold Notebook Evangelist

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    I cant find these in the configurator, but the 19 seems to have HSDPA, I just can't find which one. If it is a Gobi, it would have a GPS and that works nicely for most applications. I for one uses it in combination with navigator 11 and the free maps. Works good enough for me for road navigation. for off-roading I haven't used it, but with a usual accuracy of about 15-25 meters, it's not that far off that it gives problems.

    If you are an archaeologist or geodesist, the dedicated GPS might be needed, but then you would also want a DGPS an a pole mounted antenea etc.

    What kind of use do you want to use it for?
     
  6. stumo

    stumo Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for your help, yeah the configurator is pretty much useless for models a few generations old, or models for smaller markets like both of these Australian ones.

    I'll just have to hope its got the Gobi chipset in the HSPA card for now. It should arrive next week. Also I have a spare Gobi equipped HSPA card from a HP laptop I could maybe use, though I'm not sure if its easy to trick it into working without the correct drivers.

    I did get hold of a CF-19C last year, but I couldn't get the HP card's GPS to work in that. But then I gave up early since someone bought it off me for 3 times what I paid, so off it went. But I reckon the CF-19F will be a keeper.

    I use it for vehicle navigation, so don't need great accuracy. Navigator 11 is a fine program for something that is free, I've been using it on the CF-18K. But now I want to migrate to the dual core beast.
     
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    capt.dogfish The Curmudgeon

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    The USGlobalSat BU353 USB GPS consistently delivers sub-meter accuracy for me, confirmed with comparison to very high end survey GPSs and USGS monuments. 15-25 meters is dismal performance since the introduction of the SirfIII chip set. You won't get consistent sub-meter accuracy with an internal GPS but you should beat 3 meters.
    CAP
     
  8. Alecgold

    Alecgold Notebook Evangelist

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    yeah, but yours is a dedicated, (i guess) mine is a build in on the 3G card from ericsson. And I'm stating the accuracy in build up inner city aerea's.
    When I'm out on the highway, open fields etc, sub-meter is certainly what I get.
     
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    capt.dogfish The Curmudgeon

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    "...confirmed with comparison to very high end survey GPSs and USGS monuments." I mean by this that I have physically placed the GPS on either the survey monument or the hub being located by extremely accurate instruments, some certified to 0.01". The BU353s don't need a very clear view of the sky to do this.If you haven't done this you don't know whether you are getting sub-meter accuracy or not. Some of the internal units will give sub-meter accuracy most of the time. If you have a unit which claims 15-25 meters its not very accurate by modern standards.
    CAP
     
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    I have only the reference of the location at google maps and navigator 11 as reference. E.g. if I stand on the corner of a street, I zoom in on my location on the map and check how accurate it is.
    Are there other (software) tools to do this?
    Are there good, informative websites on this topic?
     
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    capt.dogfish The Curmudgeon

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    Visual GPS is a free program which will show you a lot of the information.
    I'm sure that the Netherlands, like the US has a government mapping agency which maintains survey monuments, start with this link: Geological Survey of the Netherlands - TNO Geological Survey of the Netherlands
    Somewhere on that site you should find a list of markers which should look something like these: Survey marker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Maybe you know where some are. At any rate, ignore the map image, compare the Latitude and Longitude being reported by your GPS to that on the monument. The difference between your GPS and the monument is the error being reported by the GPS.
    CAP
     
  12. stumo

    stumo Notebook Consultant

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    Ok well anyway, the 19F arrived today.

    The WWAN card is a "Novatel Wireless Expedite HSDPA Modem" vid=1410 pid=2420

    EDIT: Turns out its a EU870D MiniCard

    Does that card have GPS? There is one com port for it called "status port".

    Also, there is something odd with the touchscreen, it has two options in the BIOS under "Touchscreen Mode": "Touchscreen" or "Tablet". I've never seen this before on my old MK1...
    https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/e58p8pVDuSam9evGKwt3aNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

    WTH is that all about?
     
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    Hello, I'm new in this forum and looking for more information about CF19, diagrams etc.

    Curious to try a mod.

    Thank you
     
  14. dardeloff

    dardeloff Newbie

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    Hello again, by any chance someone to have the schematic manual for cf19, any MK model will do the job, for the level I need it.

    Thank you.