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    Can I even do this?

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by erichzeppelin, Dec 18, 2010.

  1. erichzeppelin

    erichzeppelin Notebook Guru

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    I have a Panasonic toughbook CF-28M (MkI) that I use everyday, I was wondering if I could take the motherboard out of a CF-28 MkIII and put in mine, also, what about the video card? I'm at 600MHz and if I can go to 1GHz, what else will I have to swap out? I love my 28, I just want it faster! What other MOD's are possible? I've already done the wireless card with external antenna.............any help would be great!
     
  2. capt.dogfish

    capt.dogfish The Curmudgeon

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    I don't believe the MK1 case will accept a MK2 or 3 mobo. Why would you bother? Surely you can buy a stripped MK-3 for less than $100 and swap all your stuff over. The HDD caddy is thinner but it will fit and work.
    CAP
     
  3. erichzeppelin

    erichzeppelin Notebook Guru

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    I'm trying to upgrade, why would I buy a stripped MkIII case and put all my MkI guts in it? And don't call me Shirley...........
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    He means swap in the drives and battery plus the wireless card and memory etc...from the mk1 to a mk3 that comes without those items but otherwise complete with motherboard..
     
  5. erichzeppelin

    erichzeppelin Notebook Guru

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    oh, o'kay. I would prefer to keep my case, we have been through alot together. 14 years of perfect service............... no malfunctions.
     
  6. Alex

    Alex Super Moderator

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    I have tried years ago
    Heatpipe ,different a few other issues as I remember

    As Cap says change the base

    The expensive items you have already, hard drive + caddy ,maybe optical drive

    Note you need the complete base , as the battery cover is different between mk1 and mk3 units
     
  7. erichzeppelin

    erichzeppelin Notebook Guru

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    Is there anything I can do to speed up what I have?
     
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    Alex Super Moderator

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    On software
    What O/S , and how long since it was fresh loaded

    On Hardware
    How much total ram , what hard drive are you using
     
  9. erichzeppelin

    erichzeppelin Notebook Guru

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    OS is Windows 2000 Professional SP4
    20gb HD
    386 RAM
     
  10. orange_george

    orange_george Notebook Evangelist

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    Guy's, I've got a twisted sense of humor & this post is extremely funny.

    o.g.

    P.S. I'm serious, and don't call me Shirley :D :D :D
     
  11. Alex

    Alex Super Moderator

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    The hard drive is the weak link
    It will be rated @4200rpm and for best performance you need a 5400rpm drive or 7200rpm if you can find it

    Many members here when they updated the cf-28 upgraded the hard drive with a 60/80/100GB Hitachi 7200 IDE PATA 2.5" drive

    Checking ebay I see these drives @ $90 and less

    The other option is a 160GB Samsung HM160HC 5400 rpm drive
    These cost around $60 new and are high performing , the issue with this drive is that it has to be partitioned into 2 sections to be used on the cf-28's as there is a bios hard drive size restriction
    That is usualy done with the first partition having 40GB and the remander used for the second partition

    The easiest with slightly less performance gain is a Hitachi 60GB 5400 IDE drive
    These were standard in the later cf-29's
    No partition needed with this drive
     
  12. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    It's a quote from Leslie Nielsen in the spoof classic Airplane!

    See here:

    YouTube - Don't call me Shirley

    As for the CF-28/600 (Or Mk1 as we call it) - They are unique; their MB, lower case and HDD caddy are different from the later 800mhz/Mk2 and 100mhz/Mk3; they will not interchange. If they would, I'd have done it. ;)

    The Mk1 HDD Caddy is what we call a "universal donor"; it will fit in ANY CF-28 as it's a couple mm shallower than the later marks because of the addition of a HDD heater for cold weather startups.

    The Battery, AC Adapter, Optical Drive are all the same across the CF-28 family; this is why we recommend you get a Mk2 or Mk3 bottom half and swap your good stuff onto it.

    mnem
    I need to go whee.
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    The dragon goes whee whee whee the whole way home!
     
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    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    Of course I did... that lil piggie was scrumptious... :wink:

    mnem
    Wheee!
     
  15. erichzeppelin

    erichzeppelin Notebook Guru

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    I wan't to thank you guy's for all your help, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed when it come's to these computer thing's....... how difficult is it going to be to drop in that 60/80/100gb Hitachi 7200rpm IDE PATA 2.5" hard drive? Is it a drop in replacement, or do I have to modify??? and how much faster is this going to make me? I noticed that my 28 seems fast enough until I get those moving graphics, that seem's to really slow me down..........
     
  16. Toughbook

    Toughbook Drop and Give Me 20!

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    It is VERY easy to swap... There is even a tutorial on the issue posted here by someone...

    You will either have to clone your drive or reload everything. Personally I like to reload... Then tweak. THen reinstall software.
     
  17. erichzeppelin

    erichzeppelin Notebook Guru

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    So, just drop it in, load up my Windows 2000 Pro disk, all the Panasonic stuff and go?
     
  18. Alex

    Alex Super Moderator

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    Yes,thats it
    It will seem faster,especially noticable with a shorter boot time
    Note that the Hitachi 7200rpm 2.5 hard drive must be an ide type, not the cheaper sata type that is the most common today

    For graphics ,you will not see much if any improvement as that is controlled by your non-replacable video chip

    If the graphics are bugging you the most
    You must move up to a newer Toughbook
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Yes, it should install just like that. I have been doing research on those very drives. They are a lot faster in real world usage. They do tend to use more power which shortens battery time. One thing I like about the 7200rpm drives is that they were at one time Hitachi's top of the line. Not a value line that most companies make that is not as dependable.
    Your mileage may vary
     
  20. erichzeppelin

    erichzeppelin Notebook Guru

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    Where can I find one?
     
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    Alex Super Moderator

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    I have used the 60 and 80 GB Hitachi's
    I found some buy it now 80GB @ $90 , but the 60 GB is larger than you really need , so save your money for christmas
     
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    erichzeppelin Notebook Guru

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    Thanks Tomcat57, I'll buy one.
     
  23. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Here are the model numbers. Search the usual subjects, Google, Ebay, etc...

    100gb Hitachi HTS721010G9AT00
    80gb Hitachi HTS721080G9AT00
    60gb Hitachi HTS721060G9AT00
    160gb Samsung HM160HC

    Verify that you are getting an IDE drive NOT an SATA drive